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| Genetic study in himalaya bear shows unknow hybrid plus more proof that inferred yeti remains are bears; Just change the name of the topic for what the original article stands for, sorry for the irrelevant clicbait title | |
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| Dragonthunders | Nov 29 2017, 11:23 AM Post #1 |
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http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/11/so-much-abominable-snowman-study-finds-yeti-dna-belongs-bears Original article http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/284/1868/20171804 Edited by Dragonthunders, Nov 30 2017, 08:56 PM.
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| Scrublord | Nov 29 2017, 11:27 AM Post #2 |
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| Yiqi15 | Nov 29 2017, 03:58 PM Post #3 |
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What I find unique about this finding is that it suggests yeti hair is actually from hybrids of the two bears of the Himalayan plateau. One mystery closed, another one opens. Also, i'm calling that cryptozoolgists are scrambling to claim the results are faulty. |
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| Talenkauen | Nov 29 2017, 06:02 PM Post #4 |
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Of coarse they would. They're nothing but psudo-scientists through and through. Cryptozoology nuts don't care about evidence unless it suits their views. They're a lot like creationists in that respect, which is fitting considering how many cryptozoologists admit to being creationists. Edited by Talenkauen, Nov 29 2017, 06:08 PM.
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| Yiqi15 | Nov 29 2017, 06:11 PM Post #5 |
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The difference is that cryptozoology at least has half a modicum of sense to it, whereas creationism is all nonsense. |
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| Tartarus | Nov 29 2017, 08:16 PM Post #6 |
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The thing the study ignores is the fact that the term "yeti" does not refer to just one thing. There are supposed to be at least three different and distinct types of yeti- the teh-lma, the yeh-teh and the dzu-teh. The existence of bear hair tells us nothing of whether or not any of the different types of yetis exist, let alone what any of them might be if they do. Just another case of online articles creating a lot of unnecessary hype over very little. |
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| LittleLazyLass | Nov 29 2017, 08:21 PM Post #7 |
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A trusty tet zoo article is a surefire way to clear up anything. |
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| Scrublord | Nov 29 2017, 10:40 PM Post #8 |
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This actually isn't new at all. Hair and skin samples from supposed yeti remains have been recovered several times in the past. They invariably turn out to be from Tibetan brown bears. That said, unlike many other cryptids, the Yeti as we've come to think of it does at least seem plausible in theory. There's nothing really outright fantastical about a large, cold-adapted, mountain-dwelling ape in the Himalayas. It's certainly a lot more believable than a modern-day freshwater plesiosaur in Loch Ness or a sauropod dinosaur in the Congo. Edited by Scrublord, Nov 29 2017, 10:44 PM.
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| Rebirth | Nov 30 2017, 12:37 AM Post #9 |
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I might post a realistic Nessie in the free for all COM. I'm thinking of having it be a giant newt, but not much larger than the Asian giant salamanders. |
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| Beetleboy | Nov 30 2017, 03:06 AM Post #10 |
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neither lizard nor boy nor beetle . . . but a little of all three
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Hold your horses, a few bad cryptozoologists (or creationists for that matter) does not make all cryptozoologists bad. |
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| Carlos | Nov 30 2017, 06:21 AM Post #11 |
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The fact that a creature clearly meant to be mythological is considered prime grounds for being a physical being confounds me in the first place. No one's arguing for the existence of satyrs or elves as some sort of hominids hiding out there. |
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| Yiqi15 | Nov 30 2017, 07:24 AM Post #12 |
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That brings up a point about cryptozoologists: its kind of racist. What I mean is that many of them engage in cultural appropriation. Take Sasquatch for instance. It originated in the folklore of northwestern coast indigenous tribes, but they were just that: folklore to keep the kids out of the woods at night, which most of the elders knew very well. Then along came the (more often then not) white cryptozoologists, who start saying "No, they're real," and start adding their own theories that make no sense to it. The original tales look nothing like the ones today. Pretty much no-one knows that Sasquatch is from indigenous cultures. Edited by Yiqi15, Jan 27 2018, 10:56 AM.
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| Carlos | Nov 30 2017, 08:48 AM Post #13 |
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Indeed. A lot of cryptozoologist "discourse" is based on the notion that other cultures don't have imagination. |
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| Scrublord | Nov 30 2017, 11:58 AM Post #14 |
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That's something I've thought about myself. It ties back into the fact that many cryptozoologists--though not all of them, I must stress-- are creationists or otherwise opposed to mainstream science rather than legitimately being interested in scientific insight about their subject of interest. If you're a creationist, and you see a description of a creature in another culture's mythology that sounds vaguely like an extinct animal, then it must literally be that animal because to say otherwise would be to imply that religions besides your own have validity. |
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| LittleLazyLass | Nov 30 2017, 03:37 PM Post #15 |
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This all seems like a stretch to me - mere ignorance and misinterpretation about others cultures (or about science) does not make them racist/discriminatory. Are there racist cryptozoologists? Of course, so don't try just throwing examples at me. But as a generalization, I don't there's necessarily much validity. Heuvelmans in particular was notably not a racist, off memory. |
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