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Male Lions Spotted Having Sexual Intercourse With Each Other
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Yeah. Pretty much what's in the title. I shared this on my Facebook with the caption "If this isn't a massive fuck you to people who say homosexuality isn't natural then I don't know what is"

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But seriously, its been well documented most animals can engage in male-on-male intercourse; this is just another one.
Edited by Yiqi15, Nov 24 2017, 05:09 PM.
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I didn't get that it was two male lions copulating with one another from the title, so I clicked on the article wondering why the hell a particular instance of lion sex was getting enough press to become a relevant news post here. The sort of confusion one might get from a post titled- Hawk finds prey in suburban neighborhood, or something.
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Nov 4 2017, 02:58 PM
"If this isn't a massive fuck you to people who say homosexuality isn't natural then I don't know what is"
I think the reasons for human homosexuality and male-male intercourse in animals might be a little different but yeah, I don't really get why it's a massive deal to be honest. It's interesting and unusual but not unheard of.
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I just figured this would be worth a share here for those who didn't know.

As for your questions IIGS it's not that common (or it isn't documented that well) but it's know to occur in many species like bonobos, elephants, ducks, penguins, whiptail lizards, some fish and dragonflies. If I may speak confidently here I would argue homosexuality is present in most gonochorous species
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It's surprisingly prevalent in certain seabird species off the top of my head.
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How common is it?
The statistics of that sorta thing are a bit vague, and likely vary from species-to-species, and likewise the exact reasons for it will usually differ somewhat from species-to-species and even case-to-case since, y'know, lions can be individualistic to an extent, just like pretty much any somewhat intelligent animal, but same-sex attraction/intercourse is found pretty commonly among pretty much any species with a backbone (heck, even those without - male spiders have been observed copulating with other males).

Sometimes it's for "play" or "practice" - whales will often do this with other whales of their sex while young - whereas other times it's genuine mating, with the two animals behaving as a mated pair from thereon out. It's actually extremely common among birds. Birds are just. Super gay, apparently.
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Male homosexual behaviour is common among lions. Its a strategy that keeps male bonds.
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Nov 4 2017, 02:58 PM
Yeah. Pretty much what's in the title. I shared this on my Facebook with the caption "If this isn't a massive fuck you to people who say homosexuality isn't natural then I don't know what is"

I mean, even if it only happened in humans, it'd still be natural. Just because a trait is unique to a species doesn't make it artificial. :^)

The ironic thing is that homophobic behaviour is shaped by culture or religion, which are basically as unnatural as it can get.

Anyway, kind of interesting I suppose, but I always feel like pointing out that homosexual behaviour is not quite the same as homosexuality. I also don't feel like we have to use other species to justify our own behaviour, as it can get into very weird territory if you take it to the extreme. Do we legalize murder because it happens in the animal kingdom? Do we ban medicine, because no non-human animal uses it?

Hopefully I'm making some sense here. I'm kind of rambling right now.
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I don't want to sound offensive here I'm genuinely curious, but what's the difference between homosexuality and homosexual behaviour? They don't sound too distinct to me
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So that's why there are so many right wing religious trophy hunters.
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The concept of sexual orientation is quite a recent phenomenon, being mainly post-enlightenment. Before it was defined mostly if not entirely by actions. People didn't think in terms of straight, gay, bi etc but by what actions one took. I think that was what he was looking for.
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Nov 4 2017, 06:41 PM
I don't want to sound offensive here I'm genuinely curious, but what's the difference between homosexuality and homosexual behaviour? They don't sound too distinct to me
Homosexuality is being attracted to the same sex. Homosexual behaviour is doing sexual things with the same sex, but not necessarily being attracted to them sexually .
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