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Woolly Rhinos Evolved to be Extinct?!; The article explains it better than I can.
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Topic Started: Sep 11 2017, 12:46 PM (748 Views)
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Sep 11 2017, 12:46 PM
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Evolution appearently drove wolly rhinos to extinction... wait, what?!
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The actual information is interesting, but this article and a lot of the other coverage (all these sites copy from one another) is terrible.
This is a symptom, not the cause.
Edited by lamna, Sep 11 2017, 01:20 PM.
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Why exactly could this not simply be a beneficial adaptation that we haven't found the use for yet?
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Why exactly could this not simply be a beneficial adaptation that we haven't found the use for yet? I agree too.
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All these excuses against overhunting when the correlation between megafaunal extinctions and better hunting technology has been made for a while are starting to get silly.
First the Wrangel Island mammoths, now this.
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All these excuses against overhunting when the correlation between megafaunal extinctions and better hunting technology has been made for a while are starting to get silly.
First the Wrangel Island mammoths, now this. Mammoths too, huh?!
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That article seemed rather silly to me. It is claimed that the woolly rhino's cervical ribs led to their demise but the justification for this claim seems pretty weak. I reckon it more likely that their unusual cervical ribs were either just a minor contributing factor to their demise or that they had nothing to do with it whatsoever (indeed, as Little already pointed out, they could for all we know have actually been a beneficial feature but we just have yet to find how they benefited the rhinos).
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The actual information is interesting, but this article and a lot of the other coverage (all these sites copy from one another) is terrible.
This is a symptom, not the cause.
Holben Lamna seems to be the only one who hasn't missed the point here. The study never claims that woolly rhinos were killed off by rogue cervical ribs that started randomly developing. The study just found that woolly rhinos in the Late Pleistocene had unusually high incidence cervical ribs, which in living mammals is associated with disease and congenital abnormalities. They could therefore be indicating that something was wrong with the younger woolly rhino populations, possibly through inbreeding or harsh environmental stresses that impact pregnancies, that was causing their development. The cervical ribs could be a side-effect of whatever was causing their extinction, not the root cause itself.
Edited by ÐK, Sep 12 2017, 03:08 PM.
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The actual information is interesting, but this article and a lot of the other coverage (all these sites copy from one another) is terrible.
This is a symptom, not the cause.
Holben seems to be the only one who hasn't missed the point here. The study never claims that woolly rhinos were killed off by rogue cervical ribs that started randomly developing. The study just found that woolly rhinos in the Late Pleistocene had unusually high incidence cervical ribs, which in living mammals is associated with disease and congenital abnormalities. They could therefore be indicating that something was wrong with the younger woolly rhino populations, possibly through inbreeding or harsh environmental stresses that impact pregnancies, that was causing their development. The cervical ribs could be a side-effect of whatever was causing their extinction, not the root cause itself. Isn't that, kind of, exactly what Lamna said?
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Isn't that, kind of, exactly what Lamna said? H*ck, that's who I meant, Lamna didn't miss the point, not Holben. I don't know why my brain did whatever it did there.
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Well, maybe if the thread wasn't horribly titled and it didn't link to a crappy news article instead of the study we'd have known better.
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Yeah, and even if you don't agree with creationists on that concept, that doesn't mean they can't be decent people. I have friends who are creationist (possibly even young earth) that I get along with fine in general life. I don't think they're right of course, but that doesn't make them intellectual degenerates. ~~The Words of forbidden3
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Well, maybe if the thread wasn't horribly titled and it didn't link to a crappy news article instead of the study we'd have known better. Excuse me?!
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No offense, but really the title is terrible indeed as well the article share, the writer of the article in gizmodo misinterpreted and linked one thing with another with poor undestanding of what is correlated from the ScienceNews article which refers to the end (This one btw) which links to the original article
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Well, maybe if the thread wasn't horribly titled and it didn't link to a crappy news article instead of the study we'd have known better.
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No offense, but really the title is terrible indeed as well the article share, the writer of the article in gizmodo misinterpreted and linked one thing with another with poor undestanding of what is correlated from the ScienceNews article which refers to the end ( This one btw) which links to the original article
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Eh, most people seem to link to news article. I still dislike it, but you're not special in that regard.
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It would have to be something extremely alien, pushing the limits of our imagination. But those are always my favorite kinds of life. ~~The Words of The Xenologist
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Yeah, and even if you don't agree with creationists on that concept, that doesn't mean they can't be decent people. I have friends who are creationist (possibly even young earth) that I get along with fine in general life. I don't think they're right of course, but that doesn't make them intellectual degenerates. ~~The Words of forbidden3
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- revin
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Oh, and of course more people get killed by selfies than by sharks. Of course.
- Parasky
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SHEEEEAAAAATTTTTTHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!
- whachamacalit2
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The smell of rotting flesh really kills my appetite, surprising, but the visual appearance of corpses makes me hungry. Is that weird?
- Ebervalius
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I mean, let us say I'm a genderfluid blurflux demi-romantic woman who is sexually attracted to men, but only if they are Melanesian and have a voice like that of Nicholas Cage. Okay, so what?
- trex841
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When I first saw that picture, I thought you were dissecting a condom.
- Mr Mysterio
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All hail Robo-Stalin.
- Peashyjah
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Seems like everything in this project is now dead.
- Stealth Rock
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Seagulls are pretty much trees, right?
- Watcher
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We all must finish chapters of our lives to go on to the next. Sometime this means leaving behind versions of ourselves that don't want to die.
- Yiqi15
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For April fool's, we had to make an orgasm that resembled a human foot.
- Flisch
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im the black market
- CaledonianWarrior96
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He was a skater birb, she said tweet you later birb
- Most People at Some Point
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Quotes - Some dude called plucas1 from Youtube comments
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Funny, isn't it, that our world needs Clark Kent a lot more than Superman.
- Xenoblade Chronicles
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Even though he is our creator, that does not afford him the right to take our lives on a whim. But that is the thinking of a homs. He is a god. Such morals cannot apply to gods. So you think we should just shut up and die?! If that is the fate decided by a god. You are mistaken if you think we will simply accept such a fate and wait to die. We'll never stop fighting. Not till the end. To Zanza, the outcome is the same. Thus your logic is flawed.
- Hades - Kid Icarus Uprising
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When freaky aliens give you lemons, make freaky alien lemonade.
- Kid Icarus Uprising
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But Souls are delicious. They're like bacon - they taste good on anything. But if you eat them, you completely remove them from existence! They can't move on or... or be reincarnated! Huh. I never really gave it much thought. Besides, what do you mean by reincarnation anyway? You know, being reborn as someone or something else. Which means different body, different memories, different experiences, yes? So isn't being reborn as "something else" the same as being "removed from existence"? I... I... eating souls isn't right! That depends on your definition of "right". All living things survive by eating other living things. So what? You're a god. You should be above all that! Gods are above living things, which doesn't necessarily mean we care about them.
- Some Dude on BBC Two
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You are being shagged... by a flightless parrot.
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