In The Future is Wild what's supposed to hunt the Toraton?

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In The Future is Wild what's supposed to hunt the Toraton?
Topic Started: Aug 29 2017, 07:56 PM (435 Views)
Dazzle	Aug 29 2017, 07:56 PM Post #1
Fetus Posts: 24 Group: Members Member #2,218 Joined: Aug 3, 2017 Gender: Male Nationality: American Favorite Quote: "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself...and giant man eating spiders" Also known as: Dazenza, (regretfully)Springtrapattacks, Nick, Neco	I know how everyone points out the inaccuracies of TFiW all the time(Land Squids, Spinks, Poggles) but like what I don't understand is: Ocean Phantoms eat Reef Gliders Roachcutters eat Falconflys and Spitfire Beetles eat Spitfire Birds Silver Spiders eat Poggles and in some cases I guess Great Blue Windrunners could eat Silver spiders for sustenance Lurkfish eat Swampus but like...what's supposed to EAT a Toraton? Unless they are implying Toraton's are so massively big that literally nothing can eat it. But if that's the case than what's stopping them from eating entire forest habitats? For professionals they really didn't think anything through, did they? Edited by Dazzle, Aug 29 2017, 07:57 PM.



Yiqi15	Aug 29 2017, 08:04 PM Post #2
Prime Specimen Posts: 1,443 Group: Members Member #1,998 Joined: Oct 10, 2016 Gender: Male Nationality: Ontarian Gender: Male	Simple: the crew behind the show were never asked to create a superpredator for the Bengal Swamp, nor did they think of any reason to include it in the final product. If I had to guess what could possibly hunt a toraton, it would probably be some sort of massive crocodilian or lizard; knowing the show however, it would probably be some giant frog descendant.
	Current/Completed Projects - After the Holocene: Your run-of-the-mill future evolution project. - A History of the Odessa Rhinoceros: What happens when you ship 28 southern white rhinoceri to Texas and try and farm them? Quite a lot, actually. Future Projects - XenoSphere: The greatest zoo in the galaxy. - The Curious Case of the Woolly Giraffe: A case study of an eocene relic. - Untittled Asylum Studios-Based Project: The truth behind all the CGI schlock - Riggslandia V.II: A World 150 million years in the making Potential Projects - Klowns: The biology and culture of a creepy-yet-fascinating being My Zoochat and Fadom Accounts - Zoochat - Fandom


IIGSY	Aug 29 2017, 08:06 PM Post #3
A huntsman spider that wastes time on the internet because it has nothing better to do Posts: 3,763 Group: Members Member #1,987 Joined: Sep 11, 2016 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Future Evolution Favorite Quote: Don't have one Also known as: Anomonys Gender: male	Yiqi15 Aug 29 2017, 08:04 PM knowing the show however, it would probably be some giant frog descendant. Is that somehow unreasonable?
	Projects Punga: A terraformed world with no vertebrates Last one crawling: The last arthropod ARTH-6810: A world without vertebrates (It's ded, but you can still read I guess) Potential ideas- Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized. Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal. Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents. Quotes "Arthropod respiratory systems aren't really "inefficient", they're just better suited to their body size. It would be quite inefficient for a tiny creature that can easily get all the oxygen it needs through passive diffusion to have a respiratory system that wastes energy on muscles that pump air into sacs. (Hence why lungless salamanders, uniquely miniscule and hyperabundant tetrapods, have ditched their lungs in favor of breathing with their skin and buccal mucous membranes.) But large, active insects already use muscles to pump air in and out of their spiracles, and I don't see why their tracheae couldn't develop pseudo- lungs if other conditions pressured them to grow larger."-HangingTheif "Considering the lifespans of modern non- insect arthropods (decade-old old millipedes, 50 year old tarantulas, 100+ year old lobsters) I wouldn't be surprised if Arthropleura had a lifespan exceeding that of a large testudine"-HangingTheif "Humans have a tribal mindset and it's not alien for tribes to war on each other. I mean, look at the atrocities chimpanzee tribes do to each other. Most of people's groupings and big conflicts in history are directly or obliquely manifestations of this tribal mindset."-Sceynyos-yis "He's the leader of the bunch You know his Coconut Gun is finally back to fire in spurts. His Coconut Gun Can make you smile If he shoots ya it's firing in spurts. His Coconut Gun Is bigger, faster, stronger too! He's the gun member of the Coconut Crew! HUH! C.G.! Coconut Gun! C.G.! Co-Coconut Gun! Shoot yourself with a Coconut Gun! HUH!"-Kamineigh "RIP, rest in Peytoia."-Little "In Summary: Piss on Lovecraft's racist grave by making lewds of Cthulhu and Nyarlathotep. Then eat arby's and embrace the void."-Kamineigh "Dougal Dixon rule 34."-Sayornis Phylogeny of the arthropods and some related groups In honor of the greatest clade of all time More pictures Other cool things http://rob-powell.deviantart.com/art/Venacarpia-carcarius-275086084 http://rob-powell.deviantart.com/art/Extreme-Sexual-Dimorphs-294860775 https://books.google.com/books?id=m-_cCgAAQBAJ&pg=PT94&lpg=PT94&dq=vertebrate+chauvinism&source=bl&ots=CenrvpmqxP&sig=sURud3Duu3K-2FEPdM9ls5ScDeA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjO1or7tIbTAhWGLSYKHUvLAjwQ6AEIcDAR#v=onepage&q=vertebrate%20chauvinism&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=wKbfbLf-SoUC&pg=PA282&lpg=PA282&dq=colonization+of+land+by+nematodes&source=bl&ots=0Z260TBWMQ&sig=JDFVZjaOIpYvEo9KaiLyUSEPK2g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjHrZ2dh5bTAhXMSSYKHUq_DboQ6AEIRDAF#v=onepage&q=colonization%20of%20land%20by%20nematodes&f=false All African countries can fit into Brazil


Yiqi15	Aug 29 2017, 08:08 PM Post #4
Prime Specimen Posts: 1,443 Group: Members Member #1,998 Joined: Oct 10, 2016 Gender: Male Nationality: Ontarian Gender: Male	Insect Illuminati Get Shrekt Aug 29 2017, 08:06 PM Yiqi15 Aug 29 2017, 08:04 PM knowing the show however, it would probably be some giant frog descendant. Is that somehow unreasonable? Is it any more ridiculous then terrestrial squids?
	Current/Completed Projects - After the Holocene: Your run-of-the-mill future evolution project. - A History of the Odessa Rhinoceros: What happens when you ship 28 southern white rhinoceri to Texas and try and farm them? Quite a lot, actually. Future Projects - XenoSphere: The greatest zoo in the galaxy. - The Curious Case of the Woolly Giraffe: A case study of an eocene relic. - Untittled Asylum Studios-Based Project: The truth behind all the CGI schlock - Riggslandia V.II: A World 150 million years in the making Potential Projects - Klowns: The biology and culture of a creepy-yet-fascinating being My Zoochat and Fadom Accounts - Zoochat - Fandom


IIGSY	Aug 29 2017, 08:09 PM Post #5
A huntsman spider that wastes time on the internet because it has nothing better to do Posts: 3,763 Group: Members Member #1,987 Joined: Sep 11, 2016 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Future Evolution Favorite Quote: Don't have one Also known as: Anomonys Gender: male	Yiqi15 Aug 29 2017, 08:08 PM Insect Illuminati Get Shrekt Aug 29 2017, 08:06 PM Yiqi15 Aug 29 2017, 08:04 PM knowing the show however, it would probably be some giant frog descendant. Is that somehow unreasonable? Is it any more ridiculous then terrestrial squids? No. It's actually quite grounded. I don't see the problem.
	Projects Punga: A terraformed world with no vertebrates Last one crawling: The last arthropod ARTH-6810: A world without vertebrates (It's ded, but you can still read I guess) Potential ideas- Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized. Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal. Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents. Quotes "Arthropod respiratory systems aren't really "inefficient", they're just better suited to their body size. It would be quite inefficient for a tiny creature that can easily get all the oxygen it needs through passive diffusion to have a respiratory system that wastes energy on muscles that pump air into sacs. (Hence why lungless salamanders, uniquely miniscule and hyperabundant tetrapods, have ditched their lungs in favor of breathing with their skin and buccal mucous membranes.) But large, active insects already use muscles to pump air in and out of their spiracles, and I don't see why their tracheae couldn't develop pseudo- lungs if other conditions pressured them to grow larger."-HangingTheif "Considering the lifespans of modern non- insect arthropods (decade-old old millipedes, 50 year old tarantulas, 100+ year old lobsters) I wouldn't be surprised if Arthropleura had a lifespan exceeding that of a large testudine"-HangingTheif "Humans have a tribal mindset and it's not alien for tribes to war on each other. I mean, look at the atrocities chimpanzee tribes do to each other. Most of people's groupings and big conflicts in history are directly or obliquely manifestations of this tribal mindset."-Sceynyos-yis "He's the leader of the bunch You know his Coconut Gun is finally back to fire in spurts. His Coconut Gun Can make you smile If he shoots ya it's firing in spurts. His Coconut Gun Is bigger, faster, stronger too! He's the gun member of the Coconut Crew! HUH! C.G.! Coconut Gun! C.G.! Co-Coconut Gun! Shoot yourself with a Coconut Gun! HUH!"-Kamineigh "RIP, rest in Peytoia."-Little "In Summary: Piss on Lovecraft's racist grave by making lewds of Cthulhu and Nyarlathotep. Then eat arby's and embrace the void."-Kamineigh "Dougal Dixon rule 34."-Sayornis Phylogeny of the arthropods and some related groups In honor of the greatest clade of all time More pictures Other cool things http://rob-powell.deviantart.com/art/Venacarpia-carcarius-275086084 http://rob-powell.deviantart.com/art/Extreme-Sexual-Dimorphs-294860775 https://books.google.com/books?id=m-_cCgAAQBAJ&pg=PT94&lpg=PT94&dq=vertebrate+chauvinism&source=bl&ots=CenrvpmqxP&sig=sURud3Duu3K-2FEPdM9ls5ScDeA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjO1or7tIbTAhWGLSYKHUvLAjwQ6AEIcDAR#v=onepage&q=vertebrate%20chauvinism&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=wKbfbLf-SoUC&pg=PA282&lpg=PA282&dq=colonization+of+land+by+nematodes&source=bl&ots=0Z260TBWMQ&sig=JDFVZjaOIpYvEo9KaiLyUSEPK2g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjHrZ2dh5bTAhXMSSYKHUq_DboQ6AEIRDAF#v=onepage&q=colonization%20of%20land%20by%20nematodes&f=false All African countries can fit into Brazil


Scrublord	Aug 29 2017, 08:40 PM Post #6
Father Pellegrini Posts: 4,422 Group: Members Member #169 Joined: May 5, 2009 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Future Evolution Nationality: American (unfortunately) Favorite Quote: Life can seem a challenge. Life can seem impossible. It's never easy when there's so much on the line.	Probably nothing. The largest sauropods didn't have any predators as adults (not even the biggest theropods could kill an adult Argentinosaurus, for example), so a future animal that fills a similar niche probably wouldn't have any predators to worry about either.
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Dakka!	Aug 29 2017, 10:31 PM Post #7
Prime Specimen Posts: 1,431 Group: Members Member #1,999 Joined: Oct 11, 2016 Gender: Male Nationality: Specitizen Favorite Quote: The Turtle Moves! Also known as: Finderskeepers, Ad infinitum, Waffles Gender: Oh wait I just realised what this is for:Heterosexual then	They are so big the only things I can imagine hunting them would be T. rex sized pack hunters.
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Rodlox	Aug 29 2017, 11:25 PM Post #8
Superhuman Posts: 3,112 Group: Members Member #21 Joined: Jun 28, 2008	Dazzle Aug 29 2017, 07:56 PM Lurkfish eat Swampus but like...what's supposed to EAT a Toraton? Unless they are implying Toraton's are so massively big that literally nothing can eat it. But if that's the case than what's stopping them from eating entire forest habitats? maybe its like the biggest sauropods and whales - their young are eaten...but the adults are only eaten either when they're wounded or dead.
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Tartarus	Aug 30 2017, 06:52 PM Post #9
Prime Specimen Posts: 1,774 Group: Members Member #705 Joined: Feb 1, 2012 Gender: Male Nationality: Australian	Seeing as there are animals that are virtually immune to predation, such as large adult elephants (lion prides will occasionally try to take down a full grown elephant but this is a very rare occurrence) I don't really see the problem with adult toratons being predator immune. Their numbers could still be kept in check by predators taking down juveniles or by diseases felling toratons of all ages. That said, maybe there are predators that hunt toratons but we merely didn't see them for the simple fact that the series only showed a small sample of creatures from each time and place, just like any other nature documentary does (honestly, considering pretty much all documentaries on animals, be they extinct or living, will and indeed can only show only a sample of species and not every known species, I've never understood why some people seem upset that TFIW showed only a small sample of creatures for each place).



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