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Polar Tyrannosaurid Feathering; It makes no sense
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Topic Started: Jul 30 2017, 07:19 PM (1,423 Views)
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Jul 31 2017, 04:51 PM
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Why the heck are You comparing Tyrannosaurs with Elephants? are You saying Tyrannosaurus could have potentially had a trunk or something? Tyrannosaurus did not eat peanuts so EVERYONE please stop comparing Tyrannosaurus to a Elephant Comparing Tyrannosaurs to Elephants is so mainstream
I won't even try to address this.
Next, feathers are ANCESTRAL in ALL dinosaurs, including tyrannosaurs and the gang, you can find details on google so i wont go in depth. The body integument is VERY favorable trait in polar conditions, and combined with what i mentioned above, it is almost a certainty that it had most likely fur like feathers for isolation, so think more polar bear less chicken.
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But it is a close relative of Tyrannosaurus which was completely covered in scaly skin so that means that Nanqusaurus would also be completely covered in scaly skin too, it is impossible for Nanqusaurus have feathers if it's close kind such as Tyrannosaurus and Gorgosaurus were completely scaly beasts IIGS already covered this few posts above.
And for the finish since this is turning into fluffy t-rex discussion, READ this Paper on fethers compered to fur in hot climate., and before you start going "IT IS NOT TIREX......" READ IT WHOLE, and than give proper opinion.
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Jul 31 2017, 05:00 PM
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So it seems Nanqusaurus likely magically returned to the roots of being covered in fluffy feathers like Yutyrannus while it's close relative Tyrannosaurus was completely covered in scaly skin
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What makes you think that tyrannosaurus was completely scaly, from all the evidence it was likely it had some feather covering.
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Jul 31 2017, 05:12 PM
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- Jul 31 2017, 05:00 PM
So it seems Nanqusaurus likely magically returned to the roots of being covered in fluffy feathers like Yutyrannus while it's close relative Tyrannosaurus was completely covered in scaly skin It was not magic. IT EVOLVED A MORE FLUFFY COAT TO COPE WITH A COLDER CLIMATE. JUST LIKE HOW THE WHOLLY MAMMOTH EVOLVED A THICK COAT DESPITE IT'S CLOSE RELATIVE THE ASIAN ELEPHANT HAVE VERY REDUCED HAIR
NOT EVERY MEMBER OF THE SAME FAMILY HAS THE SAME INTEGUMENT
Edited by IIGSY, Jul 31 2017, 05:12 PM.
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What makes you think that tyrannosaurus was completely scaly, from all the evidence it was likely it had some feather covering. Mark Witton and My Facebook Friend known as Bill Lovell
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Witton never claimed Rex was completely scaly. If you actually look at his blog, he argues juveniles had extensive feathers which teathered out in adulthood till it was only sparse. Looks like someone didn't do their research. Again.
Just stop this Hell Creek bashing and fetishising of scaly tyrannosaurs and early Cretaceous formations. It's just so weird and you've done it all over the internet. It's beyond annoying now.
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Who is saying a basal tyrannosaurine like Nanuqsaurus had a scaly ancestor? Perhaps the ancestors of tyrannosaurids had somewhat reducing feathering compared to Yutyrannus, but nothing like the predominantly scaly appearance something like a Tyrannosaurus would've had. It doesn't even have to re-gain a coat of feathers (which it could) because for the most part it would've never lost them.
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