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The Future Is Furry; Why are there so many kill mammal projects? No more I say.
Topic Started: Jan 20 2017, 07:50 AM (1,169 Views)
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The Future Is Furry

We all know the stereotypical future project, humans die, mammals get extincted, and a new totally aberrant group of animals take over as overlords of the Earth. Well, I'm going to do away with all that. Who needs new creatures when mammals are perfectly fine? Why are humans so biased against our survival? This is a glimpse into what our world may look like in the future, a furry and most importantly, furry future.

All things cycle. Life and Death are intertwined. The universe will bounce back as the amount of dark energy gets too widely spread and gravity reclaims position on the throne. The same goes for mankind. Sapience was too powerful a weapon to be beaten by mere accidents and chance. No chance impact or volcanic eruption could completely wipe out humanity. That is what happened to man, he cycled. Over and over again. Falling only to rise once more, then falling again. This is not our first Fall, but I will construe it so for the convenience and simplicity's sake. And through the Falls, life went on as usual.

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Good idea, but I just want to point out that not all that many future evolution projects actually have mammals disappearing completely. It's more of a dead unicorn trope than anything else.
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I think this is nice and that "mammals evolving into forms as distinct from modern mammals as said modern mammals are distinct from Dimetrodon (or Archeothyris)" scenarios are more realistic than total mammal extinction.
Go to Crurotheria:A world of Killer Rodents,Notosuchid Elephants,and Sirenian Hippos:
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Once again, total mammal extinction isn't as common in speculative biology projects as everyone seems to think it is.
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Jan 20 2017, 08:07 PM
Once again, total mammal extinction isn't as common in speculative biology projects as everyone seems to think it is.
Well, there is TFIW, Ultrozoic and what else? But TBH TFIW is one of the most known futevo works, so that counts for something.
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IIRC Ultrozoic has mammals (remember the flying pigs), quite derived, however, in the end they are mammals descendants.

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Is this the beginning of a project? If it is, let's let the man get on with it instead of talking about whether or not killing mammals is super common in future evolution (and it is, let's be real here.)

And, while I get what you're saying Scrublord, the truth is, everyone's first thought in future evolution is "let's kill off the "normal" animals", which means... mammals. Not just TFiW, but many, many crappy future evolution ideas- and a few good ones!- all start with "let's get rid of the normals!"

And I get that! It makes your future evolution design immediately distinguishable from the real world. People do it for a shock and for drama.

But it's unrealistic; mammals won the fight for dominance because we tolerate cold very, very well. Even as the world grows hotter, mammals will dominate what few cool areas are left, and spread out as the temperature freezes again. A push and pull; we're like the White Walkers, we come with the cold.

At any rate, if this is a project, I'd like to see it! If it's just a thread for complaining, though, I'll book it; I agree with the point, but don't want to argue about it.
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I don't think the project is active anymore. There hasn't been any updates.
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Mar 1 2017, 11:05 AM

And, while I get what you're saying Scrublord, the truth is, everyone's first thought in future evolution is "let's kill off the "normal" animals", which means... mammals. Not just TFiW, but many, many crappy future evolution ideas- and a few good ones!- all start with "let's get rid of the normals!"

Funny you should say that, because the ur-example of future evolution scenarios--After Man-- did take place in a world where mammals survive. So do the Neocene Project, Metazoica, Stephen Baxter's book Evolution, the French future evolution book Demain: Les Animaux du Futur (although in that one, the only mammals that remain are bats), and that weird-ass Japanese future evolution site.
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Mammals are fine in the Great Song, and no-one praised me for novelty... I have to agree this is a real dead unicorn. Mammals are often left alone or suffer minor extinctions. TFIF, settlers from the deep, and Post Earth, the currently most active projects in continuum other than serina (which has no mammals be axiom, not by extinction), all have mammals doing well into the future. The only "project" I can think of off the top of my head that kills mammals off is TFIW, and that takes 100 million years, not right out the gate.

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That is what happened to man, he cycled. Over and over again. Falling only to rise once more, then falling again. This is not our first Fall, but I will construe it so for the convenience and simplicity's sake. And through the Falls, life went on as usual.


I do think, however, this is at least somewhat groundbreaking. Posthumans are common, but future evolution projects a la Peter Ward style predictions aren't made too often. I can't think of any to be honest, outside Future Evolution (by Peter Ward) that recognize humans as successful and very likely to continue quite like they do today.
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Well, some of Sheather's works (Eden, for example) seem to take place in such a world, though needless to say they have a much more optimistic outlook than Ward does.
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