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The SE giants project; Brace yourselves, they are here.
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Topic Started: Nov 28 2016, 02:48 PM (14,704 Views)
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Apr 10 2017, 05:26 PM
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- Apr 10 2017, 01:14 AM
Yeah, no way the 190m sea strider can exist. Low gravity or not, the square-cube law limits the size of any living creature, one that evolved from normal sized ancestors at least. The blue whale is already near the size limits of a living animal. In the book it is said that what allows it to grow to such a vast size is that the Amoebic Sea it walks on greatly dampens the force of each step it takes so that less strain is put on the creature than if it were walking on land. Also it never stops walking so it is never concentrating all its weight into a single spot. Admittedly not a particularly plausible justification but still the book does at least give a justification rather than just ignoring size limitation issues entirely.
As for the blue whale being "near the size limits of a living animal" what are you basing that on? Granted, even sea creatures would have a size limit due to things like food availability, but at the same time the support water gives allow for vastly greater sizes than a land creature could achieve. I don't see why you couldn't have a sea creature even bigger than the biggest blue whales.
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Apr 11 2017, 01:06 AM
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Yeah, no way the 190m sea strider can exist. Low gravity or not, the square-cube law limits the size of any living creature, one that evolved from normal sized ancestors at least. The blue whale is already near the size limits of a living animal.
In the book it is said that what allows it to grow to such a vast size is that the Amoebic Sea it walks on greatly dampens the force of each step it takes so that less strain is put on the creature than if it were walking on land. Also it never stops walking so it is never concentrating all its weight into a single spot. Admittedly not a particularly plausible justification but still the book does at least give a justification rather than just ignoring size limitation issues entirely. As for the blue whale being "near the size limits of a living animal" what are you basing that on? Granted, even sea creatures would have a size limit due to things like food availability, but at the same time the support water gives allow for vastly greater sizes than a land creature could achieve. I don't see why you couldn't have a sea creature even bigger than the biggest blue whales. Yes, there could be, but not much larger than that. I don't see a larger than blue whale marine creature getting more than 40, maybe 45 metres in length.
I'm copying the statement about pushing the limits more or less directly from some book, but I don't recall atm which one was it. Or was it an article?
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Apr 11 2017, 04:20 PM
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- Apr 11 2017, 04:12 PM
Guys...Seriously... This new French Dinosaur (not a titanosaur) from Angeac qualifies for this! Ribs? tibia The smaller femur And... A phalanx (a toe bone) Never mind a possible fragmentary femur bigger than Argentinosaurus' (2.6m compared to the latter's 2.5m) and toebones nearly as big as the phalanx. I'm sure this guy would deserve a spot on the list, if the RL part of the chart is still open for revisions. I can only wonder why this isn't in the news already. Fuck me, that's massive
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Apr 12 2017, 06:13 AM
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As for the blue whale being "near the size limits of a living animal" what are you basing that on? Granted, even sea creatures would have a size limit due to things like food availability, but at the same time the support water gives allow for vastly greater sizes than a land creature could achieve. I don't see why you couldn't have a sea creature even bigger than the biggest blue whales. I recalled the basic premise of the argument. Basically it's how the square-cube law affects the circulatory system - as the size increases the demand for blood increases cubically, but the amount of blood that the circulatory system can delived increases only squarely. At some point most of the animal's volume turns out to be blood vessels and the size becomes impractical. Maybe that could be alleviated somewhat by multiple hearts? I don't know.
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Apr 12 2017, 06:25 AM
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Air sac lungs would help the problem like they did with land animals in cases of absorbing sufficient oxygen to keep energised. It's just we don't know any cases of this happening in nature so far
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Apr 13 2017, 12:10 AM
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- Apr 11 2017, 01:06 AM
I don't see a larger than blue whale marine creature getting more than 40, maybe 45 metres in length. What about something like the Triton from the Nereus project? https://sites.google.com/site/projectnereus/home/life/tetrabrachia/ichthyoforma/celeracaudae/triton At an average of 72.68 metres would this giant alien sea creature be an example of something impossibly gigantic in your opinion?
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Apr 13 2017, 06:14 PM
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- Apr 9 2017, 07:34 PM
Well, that's supposed to be published tomorrow, but now... Since it is unlikely that I will put the biggest known beings by SE members in the same size chart (for now) I decided to do some charts separately on a smaller scale to compare to one of the larger beings made for a fictitious ecosystem...  This first one is going to aappear on the aliens chart at the same scale as the others, 1 m in the actual SE chart is equal to 2 cm, so the actual size of the Emperor Sea Strider in scale would be 380 cm tall, just imagine a model of that size  This second being much smaller because if I did it in the scale on which I have been working would be suicide for my photoshop and my compute, being 2 cm equals to 10 m. First on the left, the actual giant of 190 m tall, behind it, its twin from the documentary, followed by 2 of the largest animals ever, the whole organisms of the original size chart (plus  because is essential) with few new additions and finally with the tallest plants on earth. To add something else I have not published on DA a comparison of the next few darwinian giants left to draw Spoiler: click to toggle First of all, are those trees part of the "real" bunch? One of them is the redwood, but what's the other?
Second, holy shit that thing is huge. It probably weighs more than all other creatures combined. Twice.
What is the Emperor Sea Strider supposed to be, and what project is it from?
Third, do you think you could do a chart for the tiniest spec creatures?
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Potential ideas- Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized. Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal. Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents.
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Apr 13 2017, 06:18 PM
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- Apr 13 2017, 06:14 PM
What is the Emperor Sea Strider supposed to be, and what project is it from?
Have you even heard about Wayne Barlowe's book Expedition? Or the discovery channel documentary Alien Planet? Come on bruh.
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Apr 13 2017, 06:36 PM
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First of all, are those trees part of the "real" bunch? One of them is the redwood, but what's the other?
Second, holy shit that thing is huge. It probably weighs more than all other creatures combined. Twice.
What is the Emperor Sea Strider supposed to be, and what project is it from?
Third, do you think you could do a chart for the tiniest spec creatures?
They're bipedal suction feeders, with giant orange eyespots. They walk upon the surface of the Amoebic Sea, an inland sea covered in a layer of gelatinous microbes. It feeds on this microbe layer though mouths on its massive feet (two on each foot), taking out chunks with each step. Its young are born flying creatures, which circle their parent's giant glowing eyespots until they're old enough to walk . The young are also sometimes eaten by feeding arms from the Amoebic Sea.
They're from the planet Darwin IV, from the book "Expedition" by Wayne Barlowe:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_IV
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expedition_(book)
It's also from a 2005 Darwin IV tv special called "Alien Planet"
https://youtu.be/zHzPEpHYtXQ
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Apr 13 2017, 06:47 PM
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First of all, are those trees part of the "real" bunch? One of them is the redwood, but what's the other?
Second, holy shit that thing is huge. It probably weighs more than all other creatures combined. Twice.
What is the Emperor Sea Strider supposed to be, and what project is it from?
Third, do you think you could do a chart for the tiniest spec creatures?
They're bipedal suction feeders, with giant orange eyespots. They walk upon the surface of the Amoebic Sea, an inland sea covered in a layer of gelatinous microbes. It feeds on this microbe layer though mouths on its massive feet (two on each foot), taking out chunks with each step. Its young are born flying creatures, which circle their parent's giant glowing eyespots until they're old enough to walk . The young are also sometimes eaten by feeding arms from the Amoebic Sea. They're from the planet Darwin IV, from the book "Expedition" by Wayne Barlowe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_IVhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expedition_(book) It's also from a 2005 Darwin IV tv special called "Alien Planet" https://youtu.be/zHzPEpHYtXQ Thanks. For some reason, adding the word "emperor" to the name of an organism makes it more badass. I can't be the only one who notices this.
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Projects Punga: A terraformed world with no vertebrates Last one crawling: The last arthropod
ARTH-6810: A world without vertebrates (It's ded, but you can still read I guess)
Potential ideas- Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized. Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal. Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents.
Quotes "Arthropod respiratory systems aren't really "inefficient", they're just better suited to their body size. It would be quite inefficient for a tiny creature that can easily get all the oxygen it needs through passive diffusion to have a respiratory system that wastes energy on muscles that pump air into sacs. (Hence why lungless salamanders, uniquely miniscule and hyperabundant tetrapods, have ditched their lungs in favor of breathing with their skin and buccal mucous membranes.) But large, active insects already use muscles to pump air in and out of their spiracles, and I don't see why their tracheae couldn't develop pseudo- lungs if other conditions pressured them to grow larger."-HangingTheif
"Considering the lifespans of modern non- insect arthropods (decade-old old millipedes, 50 year old tarantulas, 100+ year old lobsters) I wouldn't be surprised if Arthropleura had a lifespan exceeding that of a large testudine"-HangingTheif
"Humans have a tribal mindset and it's not alien for tribes to war on each other. I mean, look at the atrocities chimpanzee tribes do to each other. Most of people's groupings and big conflicts in history are directly or obliquely manifestations of this tribal mindset."-Sceynyos-yis
"He's the leader of the bunch You know his Coconut Gun is finally back to fire in spurts. His Coconut Gun Can make you smile If he shoots ya it's firing in spurts. His Coconut Gun Is bigger, faster, stronger too! He's the gun member of the Coconut Crew! HUH!
C.G.! Coconut Gun! C.G.! Co-Coconut Gun! Shoot yourself with a Coconut Gun! HUH!"-Kamineigh
"RIP, rest in Peytoia."-Little
"In Summary: Piss on Lovecraft's racist grave by making lewds of Cthulhu and Nyarlathotep.
Then eat arby's and embrace the void."-Kamineigh
"Dougal Dixon rule 34."-Sayornis
Phylogeny of the arthropods and some related groups
In honor of the greatest clade of all time
More pictures
Other cool things
All African countries can fit into Brazil
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Apr 13 2017, 07:11 PM
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The blue whale is already near the size limits of a living animal.
IIRC it is in terms on mass, not lenght.
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I'm sure this guy would deserve a spot on the list, if the RL part of the chart is still open for revisions
Maybe yes, maybe no, It is likely that someone else will do a comparison chart for it
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I can only wonder why this isn't in the news already.
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I recalled the basic premise of the argument. Basically it's how the square-cube law affects the circulatory system - as the size increases the demand for blood increases cubically, but the amount of blood that the circulatory system can delived increases only squarely. At some point most of the animal's volume turns out to be blood vessels and the size becomes impractical. Maybe that could be alleviated somewhat by multiple hearts? I don't know.
It does not tend to play an important role also the structure, anatomy, metabolism and density of the body too?
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At an average of 72.68 metres would this giant alien sea creature be an example of something impossibly gigantic in your opinion? Not impossible but improbable. It is a bit risky to use fictitious examples to justify other fictitious examples as they could hypothetically be plausible but will not ensure that they are accurate.
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First of all, are those trees part of the "real" bunch? One of them is the redwood, but what's the other?
The skinny one is a coast redwood, the tallest tree. The other one is a sequoia redwood, which is shorter but much more massive.
Wow, the eosapient is massive.
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Rebirth: I can't be the only one curious about what would happen if you spayed and neutered a male antechinus before it reached sexual maturity. Ebervalius: Laws? What kind of spooky cuckery is that? Parasky: Ah see, but that's just the thing, you thought that I thought that you thought that I had said you hadn't read it, when really I had said that you had said that you thought that I thought that you hadn't read it. So really it's Flisch's fault.
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The Habitable Zone: Bellator: A World at War Pentrex: The five worlds of the five champions of the dinosaur world, together at last.
Alternate Universes: Terra Venatus: Where fantasy comes to life Terra Incognita: Planet Earth, now with 150% more pulp! Sol and its Surrounding Worlds: A Guide to the Organisms and Peoples of the Solar System (Companion to Terra Incognita) Guide to the Ark: ???
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Apr 14 2017, 01:25 AM
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- Apr 13 2017, 08:04 PM
Wow, the eosapient is massive. Where is it? I can't find it.
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Projects Punga: A terraformed world with no vertebrates Last one crawling: The last arthropod
ARTH-6810: A world without vertebrates (It's ded, but you can still read I guess)
Potential ideas- Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized. Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal. Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents.
Quotes "Arthropod respiratory systems aren't really "inefficient", they're just better suited to their body size. It would be quite inefficient for a tiny creature that can easily get all the oxygen it needs through passive diffusion to have a respiratory system that wastes energy on muscles that pump air into sacs. (Hence why lungless salamanders, uniquely miniscule and hyperabundant tetrapods, have ditched their lungs in favor of breathing with their skin and buccal mucous membranes.) But large, active insects already use muscles to pump air in and out of their spiracles, and I don't see why their tracheae couldn't develop pseudo- lungs if other conditions pressured them to grow larger."-HangingTheif
"Considering the lifespans of modern non- insect arthropods (decade-old old millipedes, 50 year old tarantulas, 100+ year old lobsters) I wouldn't be surprised if Arthropleura had a lifespan exceeding that of a large testudine"-HangingTheif
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"He's the leader of the bunch You know his Coconut Gun is finally back to fire in spurts. His Coconut Gun Can make you smile If he shoots ya it's firing in spurts. His Coconut Gun Is bigger, faster, stronger too! He's the gun member of the Coconut Crew! HUH!
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"In Summary: Piss on Lovecraft's racist grave by making lewds of Cthulhu and Nyarlathotep.
Then eat arby's and embrace the void."-Kamineigh
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Phylogeny of the arthropods and some related groups
In honor of the greatest clade of all time
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Apr 14 2017, 02:09 AM
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- Tartarus
- Apr 13 2017, 12:10 AM
If it has the proportions of a whale and weighs more than it, yes. The picture on that site makes it difficult to make out its general shape. But length isn't everything, iirc there are some ocean worms longer than most whales.
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