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The SE giants project; Brace yourselves, they are here.
Topic Started: Nov 28 2016, 02:48 PM (14,700 Views)
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For a long time, I have found interesting the use of comparison charts to appreciate the size of many types of animals, especially the huge ones, both existing and extinct, both real and imaginary, even when if only are silhouettes, is always fascinating. I have also seen that this idea has been applied in some concepts of speculative evolution, in some cases for posthumans, in others, for creatures of own projects (I include myself in this) however, so far it seems that a has never been made a comparison chart about SE life in general, about the prominent organisms of any project. After many years since the Snouters, the trilogy of Dixon, the world of Darwin IV by Barlowe, TFIW, and the introduction of the actual know SE works like Specworld, Snaiad and Neocene just to say some, in the last decade has accumulated this great diversity of species, the countless interpretations of different worlds and the different paths that life that have been created.

And this is why I started this work…

The SE giants is a long term mini-project about to bring together all the kind of giants of each SE project developed into one or many chart comparison, in order to give an idea of the enormous biodiversity that has accumulated over the years, and to celebrate how far we have come. The idea has been quite inspired by the creations of size tables made for various types of prehistoric animals, sometimes made up of silhouettes, others made with images copied and attached to other works and very few created by the author's own hand. In this case I have taken the time to create each sketch (sorry if some sketches are mediocre in comparison to the images with better quality).

Why long term? As is obvious, what is shown in the chart at the moment is still a small sample of everything that exists in SE and everything related to this, there are still a lot of organisms to put, some probably to improve and if I can continue with this table in the future, new projects to add. Here will include the largest species among its type, but depending on the diversity and quantity of animals the number of individuals per project will always vary.

I want to be honest, I’m not going to be complacent with everyone, and being direct, I will not add some concept and project just because these are in the SE or explores a scenario, I am going to take important aspects like development, quality and effort in each creature and each project, I will take some exceptions, however, there will be few. Something to keep in mind too, I will not include things like building a fake theropod, or JP, or anything that contains prehistoric/alien/future stuffs that have been more creature designing rather than an organism created for a speculative ecosystem or scenario.

But for anything, I will always be in the search of projects and concepts to add to the future, so if anyone has suggestions you can contact me here or send a private message (but with the limits that I said In the previous paragraph). I have also taken some liberties in terms of coloration and interpretation of some types of animals due to a little lack of information in some details, so if any of the creators find discrepancies or problems in terms of coloration or size, don’t doubt to respond.


Projects and works added

After man: Book created by Dougal Dixon in 1981, presents hypothetically the evolutionary paths that could take the fauna in 50 million years in the future after the extinction of humanity.

The New Dinosaurs: Second book of Dougal Dixon created in 1988, speculates on how the dinosaurs and other animals could have evolved over the last 65 million years had the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event not taken place.

The future is wild: Documentary and book created around 2002-2003 by Dougal Dixon, in a chronological way this shows how life could evolve in the next 5, 100 and 200 million years after ours, in four different environments per period.

The Snouters: Form and Life of the Rhinogrades: Book created in the year 1957 by the zoologist Gerolf Steiner, despite being considered a scientific joke, this could be assumed as one of the first works of "Speculative Evolution" by the great detail of descriptions made to the fictitious organisms known as Rhinogrades.

Neocene: Community project Initiated as a connection between TFIW and after man, but then converted into individual work, exposes in an extraordinary way the flora and fauna that exists on earth in 25 million years in the future, after the anthropogenic impact caused by man during the Holocene.

Speculative dinosaur project: Community project which followed the idea of The new dinosaurs, about what if the K/Pg extinction had never occurred, showing in depth and detail the evolutionary paths that have taken the different groups of animals and plants of the end of the cretaceous in the holocene.
(sorry If I can’t said specific creators)

All tomorrows: Digital book created by C. M. Kosemen (Nemo Ramjet) tells the future history of the descendants of the human race, beginning with the expansion through the galaxy, and later its subjugation by an extra-galactic alien race known as “Qu” which its god-like knowledge and power creates myriads of deformed and radically derived posthumans.

Sheatheria: Project created by Dylan Bajda (Sheather), it describes in great detail the life and biosphere of the planet Sheatheria, a super-earth with 4 times the size of the earth and with a huge glacier belt in the equatorial zone, this is connected with our world through portals, which in different times and periods have transported in great migrations different kinds of organisms.

Umbriel: future evo project created by the user “Picrodus”, takes place in one of the moon of Uranus know as Umbriel, after being terraformed by one of many machines known as “The Ark” sent by humans to many of the celestial bodies in the outer solar system, with the purpose that these machines can populate one of these world with earth life in the distant future. Being the Ark of Umbriel the only that could survive for billions of years, this began the process of colonization, but by a severe problem in the composition of the atmosphere, the only organisms that populate the surface of the moon are plants, in particular, conifers. 3 billion years in the future, these conifers evolved into new varied species, including a new kind of creatures: Planimals.

Diyu: alternative evolution project created by the user “Troll Man”, this exposes the strange ecology found in a group of caves below the ground of the Yunnan province on china, an isolated world since the Cambrian, which evolution has created a unique variety of fauna and flora which is almost extraterrestrial, with a point of divergence of more than 500 million years.

Astarte: created by the user “Archeoraptor” is an alternative world which diverges in the middle Paleogene around 40 million years where the azolla event didn’t happen, with a quite divergent geography, this greenhouse world is dominated by a huge variety of different Paleogene animals, especially the strange Paleogene mammals.

Tomorrow: the animals of the future (Demain: les animaux du futur): created by Marc Boulay and Sébastien Steyer, It is a book recently published around 2015 which describes a world 10 million years after us in a high warm planet, full of a strange and exotic variety of flora and fauna, birds become flightless, bats evolve into powerful fliers, cephalopods become diverse and a neotenic frog is the largest animal of the time.

Settlers from the Deep: project created by the user “Dromaeosaurus/Concavenator”, occurs after a gamma rays burst passes through the earth, destroying the atmosphere and exterminating almost all multicellular life, the few survivors who managed to find shelter underground, hidden from the lethal damage of radiation, claim the world again million Years late.

Serina: created by Dylan Bajda (Sheather), Serina is a terraformed moon around a gas giant, which has been populated by a wide range of plants and animals, however, the only living tetrapods on this world are canaries, which without control and with the passage of time have begun to evolve and adapt in the new and empty niches.

Amammalia: Project created by Jason Sheldon (Jasonguppy), is an alternative world where mammals never existed, and after the K/Pg event, most of the surviving Archosaurs like birds and crocodilians together with other amniotes become the predominant groups of the Cenozoic.

Ao-oni: Future evo project created by the user “ForbiddenParadise64/ Forbidden3/ Nyarlathotep”, exposes us the fate of humans on the planet Ao-oni, after they were reduced and degraded to salvage and highly derived posthuman species know as oni (xenonianthropus primus) by entities known as “The Tyrants". At the end, the oni expanded across this planet and evolved, resulting in a world full of posthuman abominations.

Tardigradus: Alternative evo project created by the user “ForbiddenParadise64/ Forbidden3/ Nyarlathotep”, is an alternative earth where the tardigrades were introduced during the Precambrian, resulting in a world dominated by its descendants, each animal from the smallest species to the largest of the species are derived tardigrades.

Fallow Earth: Community project created by Jonas Hakkens (jonagold2000), explores the world in 15 million years in the future, after enormous disasters both by human activities and an Asteroid that collided with the planet, led much of the fauna to its extinction, groups of humans managed to repair much of the ecological damage, adding in an unusual way a few extinct species of other times.

Bygone world: Community project created around 2014 and based in the “Lost World” concept, introduces us to the archipelago, a group of islands separated from eastern Africa approximately 242 million years ago, which has since been colonized by different animal groups in some specific points of time.

Squamozoic: Concept created by Darren Naish, is based on the idea that would happen if only squamates were the only dominant group of the planet after the K/Pg event, while mammals (and probably birds) became extinct.

Anthropomundus: created by Cyrus Theedishman (Giant Blue Anteater) It exposes one of the many destinies of man for the terrible Qu, being in this world transformed into small and simple creatures, similar to fetuses and left to their fate. Without the intervention of the god-like intergalactic beings, these little posthumans will create a new era of diversity and evolution in from the scratch.

Extended Pleistocene: Project created by the user Admantus/Syphonodon, is an alternative/future world where humans succumbed during the eruption of the Toba Supervolcano, resulting in the survival of much of the megafauna during the last ice age, and 45 million years after, these have diversified greatly.

Tecciztecatl: Short but amazing comic created by Nathan Trites (Hybrid), this exposes in an extraordinary way the diversity of the only successful group of animals in a super-earth, the snails, being pollinators with a unique biodiversity.

More soon…

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Possible charts for the future

As I said before, this is probably not going to be the only size chart, since the number of species that exist among the SE multiverse is huge and some will probably need their own charts, so here are potential future comparison charts concepts.

Fantastical spec chart: In this I will include many types of speculative creatures which are categorized in "soft speculation" which is not so rigorous in terms of plausibility, giving them a more fantastic aspect.
Examples: World of Kong.

Alien chart: This will focus on the different types of organisms that have evolved in other worlds and are not in any way related to terrestrial lifeforms, this of course is because the amount of diversity of alien organisms is equal to that on earth, so probably until I find a way to put both together, the extraterrestrial organisms needs its own chart.
Examples: Snaiad, Ilion, Darwin IV, etc.

Big of the big: You may know that something like the Emperor Sea Strider is really, really huge, so for that case and maybe with a couple more of giant organisms I'm going to work on a comparison chart with half of the scale (probably a third of the original scale of this first table) in order to introduce the greatest of everything, also including the 10 largest thing of the first chart.

The small SE giants: Some of the actual animals which are included in the chart although being the largest among its type, are still too small and the quality of their images turns out to be poor and just a bunch of pixels, so for a future I will dedicate a zoom for these small representatives, with better detail and probably including more of the small “giants”

Sophont chart: you will know…

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WIP area
Future additions (Nov 2016)


Edited by Dragonthunders, Nov 20 2017, 01:04 PM.
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The SE giants project
Wonder what is the big of the big on speculative evolution? no problem, here is the answer

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Age of Mankind
Humanity fate and its possible finals.

The Long Cosmic Journey
The history outside our world.

The alternative paths
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Holocene park: Welcome to the biggest adventure of the last 215 million years, where the age of mammals comes to life again!
Cambrian mars: An interesting experiment on an unprecedented scale, the life of a particular and important period in the history of our planet, the cambric life, has been transported to a terraformed and habitable mars in an alternative past.
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And just where are all of my projects, DT? Hmmm?

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This is really amazing work, DT! I love all the detail that you've put into it, especially in all the details of animals. Really well done!
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I agree; I think it's been overestimated - the project cites the largest species of behemoth at 200 ft tall at the shoulder.

Also regarding The Xenologist's Hollow Earth, you might want to add the giant orthocerid and some of the anomalocarids.

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Some of my ideas (nothing real yet, but soon):
Refugium: A last chance for collapsing ecosystems and their inhabitants.
Pansauria: A terraforming project featuring the evolution of exactly one animal - the marine iguana.
Mars Renewed: An insight into the life of Mars thirty million years after its terraforming by humankind.
Microcosm: An exceedingly small environment.
Alcyon: A planet colonized by species remodeled into new niches by genetic engineering.
Oddballs: Aberrant representatives of various biological groups compete and coexist.

..and probably some other stuff at some point (perhaps a no K-T project). Stay tuned!
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And just where are all of my projects, DT? Hmmm?

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This is really amazing work, DT! I love all the detail that you've put into it, especially in all the details of animals. Really well done!

Thank you so much :)

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Also regarding The Xenologist's Hollow Earth, you might want to add the giant orthocerid and some of the anomalocarids.

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The Future is Far
Welcome to the next chapters of the evolution of life on earth, travel the across the earth on a journey that goes beyond the limits, a billion years of future history in the making.

The SE giants project
Wonder what is the big of the big on speculative evolution? no problem, here is the answer

Coming one day
Age of Mankind
Humanity fate and its possible finals.

The Long Cosmic Journey
The history outside our world.

The alternative paths
The multiverse, the final frontier...

Holocene park: Welcome to the biggest adventure of the last 215 million years, where the age of mammals comes to life again!
Cambrian mars: An interesting experiment on an unprecedented scale, the life of a particular and important period in the history of our planet, the cambric life, has been transported to a terraformed and habitable mars in an alternative past.
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This is awesome!

Oh man, you even included my fisher dragons!

Suggestion: why not add some animals from the Speculative Dinosaur Project?
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They are there, in the middle...

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I agree; I think it's overestimated - the project cites the largest species of behemoth at 200 ft tall at the shoulder.

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Yeah, I agree with the other discussions of the behemoth - it seems waaaay too big.

I am not going to lie, I also consider it too large, although in its description it is specified that looks like a giant mammoth, and taking measurements of the largest known species and extrapolating that to the behemoth, this came out as a result.

I must say that I should talk about this with Xeno, to sure if it is the right, or is too different of what I created.
Edited by Dragonthunders, Nov 28 2016, 07:39 PM.
Projects

"Active" projects

The Future is Far
Welcome to the next chapters of the evolution of life on earth, travel the across the earth on a journey that goes beyond the limits, a billion years of future history in the making.

The SE giants project
Wonder what is the big of the big on speculative evolution? no problem, here is the answer

Coming one day
Age of Mankind
Humanity fate and its possible finals.

The Long Cosmic Journey
The history outside our world.

The alternative paths
The multiverse, the final frontier...

Holocene park: Welcome to the biggest adventure of the last 215 million years, where the age of mammals comes to life again!
Cambrian mars: An interesting experiment on an unprecedented scale, the life of a particular and important period in the history of our planet, the cambric life, has been transported to a terraformed and habitable mars in an alternative past.
Two different paths, two different worlds, but same life and same weirdness.




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So snouters is the first spec evo project?
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