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3 Simple steps to make plausible giant arthropods; without having to drastically change their anatomy
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Nov 16 2016, 05:52 PM
These invertebrate threads are getting out of hand. They seem to always get off topic, and just devolve into a random debate about arthropods. We do not need to have numerous invertebrate themed threads, and anymore possible questions should stay in QTDNTOT thread.

Furthermore, why did you make a 'help' thread if you didn't know for certain that your 'tips' would even be useful? If anything, you could have stayed this in the Species Factory thread.
But, I know there useful. Also, this is not an argument or a flame war. This is a discussion. I'm sorry if it seems like a flame war to you.

Plus, debating is fun :P
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Nov 16 2016, 04:58 PM
If we can say 'invertebrate', then why can't we say 'non annelid' or 'not mollusk'?

But, nobody is stopping you. ._.
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If we can say 'invertebrate', then why can't we say 'non annelid' or 'not mollusk'?

But, nobody is stopping you. ._.
Yeah, I know that. But I was asking why most people use "invertebrate", but no those terms.

Also, on a somewhat related note.

Reptile=Sauropsid

Problem solved.
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Punga: A terraformed world with no vertebrates
Last one crawling: The last arthropod

ARTH-6810: A world without vertebrates (It's ded, but you can still read I guess)

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Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized.
Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal.
Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents.

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Because for invertebrates you already have a name (which, I guess, originated from incomplete understandings of phylogenetics) It's easier using a word that exists than one that doesn't. (Who would've guessed.)
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Nov 16 2016, 07:57 PM
Because for invertebrates you already have a name (which, I guess, originated from incomplete understandings of phylogenetics) It's easier using a word that exists than one that doesn't. (Who would've guessed.)
Fair enough.
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Punga: A terraformed world with no vertebrates
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ARTH-6810: A world without vertebrates (It's ded, but you can still read I guess)

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Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized.
Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal.
Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents.

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Seriously though, it makes the most sense to name eras after the predominate megafauna. They're the first to go and be replaced by different clades when conditions change.
No, it's makes the most sense to simply use the name from geological timescale and avoid the question completely.
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If we can say 'invertebrate', then why can't we say 'non annelid' or 'not mollusk'?

But, nobody is stopping you. ._.
Yeah, I know that. But I was asking why most people use "invertebrate", but no those terms.
because its easier than saying the names of a dozen phyla, when we're trying to ask a short question.

"Which invertabrate is the most adorable?"

vs

"Which gastropod, annelid, hemichordate, chaetognath, peripatid, or - ah frack it, I can't spell the other ones."
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Seriously though, it makes the most sense to name eras after the predominate megafauna. They're the first to go and be replaced by different clades when conditions change.
No, it's makes the most sense to simply use the name from geological timescale and avoid the question completely.
so, instead of using the megafauna to refer to it, you want to use tribes and zoological distrobution? (the Silurian - the Silures...or, instead of saying "I want to read about the Age of Dinosaurs," you want us to say "I want to read about the Middle Fauna"? - meso+zoo+ic)
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If we can say 'invertebrate', then why can't we say 'non annelid' or 'not mollusk'?

But, nobody is stopping you. ._.
Yeah, I know that. But I was asking why most people use "invertebrate", but no those terms.

Also, on a somewhat related note.

Reptile=Sauropsid

Problem solved.
Was there a problem in the first place?
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Nov 16 2016, 04:58 PM
If we can say 'invertebrate', then why can't we say 'non annelid' or 'not mollusk'?

But, nobody is stopping you. ._.
Yeah, I know that. But I was asking why most people use "invertebrate", but no those terms.

Also, on a somewhat related note.

Reptile=Sauropsid

Problem solved.
Was there a problem in the first place?
Apparently, yes
Projects
Punga: A terraformed world with no vertebrates
Last one crawling: The last arthropod

ARTH-6810: A world without vertebrates (It's ded, but you can still read I guess)

Potential ideas-
Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized.
Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal.
Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents.

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Phylogeny of the arthropods and some related groups


In honor of the greatest clade of all time


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If we can say 'invertebrate', then why can't we say 'non annelid' or 'not mollusk'?

But, nobody is stopping you. ._.
Yeah, I know that. But I was asking why most people use "invertebrate", but no those terms.
because its easier than saying the names of a dozen phyla, when we're trying to ask a short question.

"Which invertabrate is the most adorable?"

vs

"Which gastropod, annelid, hemichordate, chaetognath, peripatid, or - ah frack it, I can't spell the other ones."
But why make a word specifically to distinguish vertebrates from all other animals, and do the same to other animal groups.
Projects
Punga: A terraformed world with no vertebrates
Last one crawling: The last arthropod

ARTH-6810: A world without vertebrates (It's ded, but you can still read I guess)

Potential ideas-
Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized.
Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal.
Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents.

Quotes


Phylogeny of the arthropods and some related groups


In honor of the greatest clade of all time


More pictures


Other cool things


All African countries can fit into Brazil
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Nov 16 2016, 04:58 PM
If we can say 'invertebrate', then why can't we say 'non annelid' or 'not mollusk'?

But, nobody is stopping you. ._.
Yeah, I know that. But I was asking why most people use "invertebrate", but no those terms.
because its easier than saying the names of a dozen phyla, when we're trying to ask a short question.

"Which invertabrate is the most adorable?"

vs

"Which gastropod, annelid, hemichordate, chaetognath, peripatid, or - ah frack it, I can't spell the other ones."
But why make a word specifically to distinguish vertebrates from all other animals, and do the same to other animal groups.
because we did. there is no deep reason for it.

maybe you'd prefer a return to when half of all the phyla were simply called Vermes (worms)
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If "reptile" is a pretty bad term, "worm" is downright heinous.
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so, instead of using the megafauna to refer to it, you want to use tribes and zoological distrobution?


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simply use the name from geological timescale and avoid the question completely.


means just that. I am not sure what is so difficult to understand there. Cretaceous, Paleozoic, Pliocene, Maastrichtian, there we go, nice and simple, no fauna being horribly discriminated against.

I also don't get the obsession with things being 'The Age of XYZ', it isn't official in any way. Yes it is subjective, no it doesn't matter that much if someone wants to describe sometime as 'The Age of...' not sure why some people make so much of it.

How has this topic deviated so much from talking about big arthropods?
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