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Biggest biological plot twist
Topic Started: Nov 6 2016, 12:28 PM (19,610 Views)
Rodlox
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Inceptis
Jun 16 2017, 02:26 PM
Rodlox
Jun 16 2017, 08:29 AM
Sea Horses (and Pipefish & Sea Dragons) are not true fish...they split from the backboned family somewhere between the Hagfish and the Lamprey.
Then why do we only find that particular group in the fossil record about 30 million years back?
last I heard, we don't really have hagfish fossils, and I suspect its nearly the same for lampreys (Tulley Monster being one rare exception or not)...so its not really surprising.
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Jun 16 2017, 02:26 PM
Rodlox
Jun 16 2017, 08:29 AM
Sea Horses (and Pipefish & Sea Dragons) are not true fish...they split from the backboned family somewhere between the Hagfish and the Lamprey.
Then why do we only find that particular group in the fossil record about 30 million years back?
last I heard, we don't really have hagfish fossils, and I suspect its nearly the same for lampreys (Tulley Monster being one rare exception or not)...so its not really surprising.
We actually have a couple lamprey and hagfish fossils
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Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal.
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Turtles are synapsids.
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Basal stegocephalians, lissamphibians, temnospondyls, lepospondyls, reptiliamorphs, synapsids, and sauropsids all come from different fish and evolved tetrapod characteristics independently. This renders tetrapoda highly polyphyletic.
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Punga: A terraformed world with no vertebrates
Last one crawling: The last arthropod

ARTH-6810: A world without vertebrates (It's ded, but you can still read I guess)

Potential ideas-
Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized.
Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal.
Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents.

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Phylogeny of the arthropods and some related groups


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A virus that can repoduce without parasitism.
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All flying vertebrates come from a direct common ancestor that was also capable of flight
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Punga: A terraformed world with no vertebrates
Last one crawling: The last arthropod

ARTH-6810: A world without vertebrates (It's ded, but you can still read I guess)

Potential ideas-
Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized.
Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal.
Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents.

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Phylogeny of the arthropods and some related groups


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Gnathiferans turn out to be from Ecdysozoa, screwing even more with the phylogenies in Protostomia.
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Gigantopithecus was actually an offshoot of Australopithecus that travelled out of Africa and into Asia around six million years ago meaning it was more closely related to humans and chimpanzees then modern day pongine.
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Scansoriopterygians were beginning to do fairly well, and, if birds hadn't begun to rapidly diversify, could have competed with them and crossed the Kt-P border.
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Vertebrates didn't evolve by natural selection. Our whole body actually arose from massive serial endosymbiosis:

- our bones are calcified colonies of foraminiferans;
- our teeth are barnacle-like arthropods that extend feeding appendages in the jaws;
- our intestine is a huge Ascaris-like worm feeding on the food that passes through it (maybe also our blood vessels);
- our retinas are films of algae, and the rest of the eyes are a matrix secreted to filter dangerous radiations (and eyelids are chiton-like mollusks that graze it);
- our tongue is a Cymothoa-like symbiotic slug;
- our blood is a liquid multi-species biofilm;
- our skin is silk woven by a colonial mites that lives just beneath it (dust mites appear to feed on skin flakes, they actually hatch from them);
- our hair are pin mold sporangia;
- our mitochondria are aerobe bacteria engulfed by our cells, with their own independent genome;
- our brain is a writhing mass of Toxoplasma-like parasites, and our psychology is the sum of the thousands of behaviors they compel;
- our nerves are extensions of this mass that carry their will(s) to the other organisms, sort of like the tendrils of a slime mold;
- our gonads are highly derived tunicates (the only chordates that actually exist as species) degenerated to germinal cells (the uterus is a giant sac fungus that hosts the female tunicate eggs if its adequately fed by the secretions of the priapulid that transmits the gametes of the male one).

I could go on like this all day.
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Jun 25 2017, 02:54 PM
Vertebrates didn't evolve by natural selection. Our whole body actually arose from massive serial endosymbiosis:

- our bones are calcified colonies of foraminiferans;
- our teeth are barnacle-like arthropods that extend feeding appendages in the jaws;
- our intestine is a huge Ascaris-like worm feeding on the food that passes through it (maybe also our blood vessels);
- our retinas are films of algae, and the rest of the eyes are a matrix secreted to filter dangerous radiations (and eyelids are chiton-like mollusks that graze it);
- our tongue is a Cymothoa-like symbiotic slug;
- our blood is a liquid multi-species biofilm;
- our skin is silk woven by a colonial mites that lives just beneath it (dust mites appear to feed on skin flakes, they actually hatch from them);
- our hair are pin mold sporangia;
- our mitochondria are aerobe bacteria engulfed by our cells, with their own independent genome;
- our brain is a writhing mass of Toxoplasma-like parasites, and our psychology is the sum of the thousands of behaviors they compel;
- our nerves are extensions of this mass that carry their will(s) to the other organisms, sort of like the tendrils of a slime mold;
- our gonads are highly derived tunicates (the only chordates that actually exist as species) degenerated to germinal cells (the uterus is a giant sac fungus that hosts the female tunicate eggs if its adequately fed by the secretions of the priapulid that transmits the gametes of the male one).

I could go on like this all day.
I wish this was true.
Projects
Punga: A terraformed world with no vertebrates
Last one crawling: The last arthropod

ARTH-6810: A world without vertebrates (It's ded, but you can still read I guess)

Potential ideas-
Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized.
Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal.
Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents.

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Phylogeny of the arthropods and some related groups


In honor of the greatest clade of all time


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Ammonites didn't have tentacles.
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Naw, ammonites had tentacles, considering we know how many tentacles they had (30). What everyone is wrong about though is that their shell opening was properly positioned above the shell instead of like nautiloids.
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Jun 25 2017, 07:16 PM
Naw, ammonites had tentacles, considering we know how many tentacles they had (30). What everyone is wrong about though is that their shell opening was properly positioned above the shell instead of like nautiloids.
they're just really soggy noodles, time travelers put them on the animals
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"There seems to me too much misery in the world. I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created the Ichneumonidae with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of caterpillars..."
"If you truly love Nature, you will find beauty everywhere."
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Bivalves aren't mollusks but actually derived brachiopods
Projects
Punga: A terraformed world with no vertebrates
Last one crawling: The last arthropod

ARTH-6810: A world without vertebrates (It's ded, but you can still read I guess)

Potential ideas-
Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized.
Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal.
Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents.

Quotes


Phylogeny of the arthropods and some related groups


In honor of the greatest clade of all time


More pictures


Other cool things


All African countries can fit into Brazil
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