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Biggest biological plot twist
Topic Started: Nov 6 2016, 12:28 PM (19,615 Views)
Arawak
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Really finding any previous sapient that existed in the depth of time would be utterly shocking in its implications. No matter what it was, be it a celaphopod or avian or sponge.

And that they've even been the cause for the permian-Triassic mass extinction.


Humans aren't descended from apes at all and actually are more related to fruit bats that started walking on the ground more.
Edited by Arawak, Mar 26 2017, 12:43 PM.
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Myriapods are really terrestrial nudibranchs, and their ascension to land was the prime motivator for lobe-finned fishes to move onto land in order to hunt them.

Lamarckism is actually correct.

Sandbars are actually created by eusocial shrimps.
Edited by Mr.Scruth, Mar 29 2017, 10:07 AM.
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@Arawak Archeological remains of a species of Permian Dicynodonts are found, which reached sapience and a level of technology comparable to the 1980s before succumbing to the drought brought on by the Permian period. The most curious remain is a perfectly preserved fossil of a disk-shaped object with grooves comparable to our vinyl records.

Even more curious is what was found when modern technology allowed us to scan the grooves on the fossil disk and play them.
Edited by Mitosis, Apr 2 2017, 04:45 AM.
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— Theropoda and Ornithischia are actually sister groups, to the exclusion of Sauropodomorpha and destroying our traditional concept of dinosaurs as Saurischia + Ornithischia, throwing our cladistic definitions into turmoil and overturning over 100 years of traditional, well-known and deeply rooted classification conventions.


Oh hang on a second.
For. Crying. Out. Loud. That. Conclusion. Was. Only. Based. On. One. Study. And. Is. Far. From. Established.
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ÐK
Mar 24 2017, 08:53 PM
— Theropoda and Ornithischia are actually sister groups, to the exclusion of Sauropodomorpha and destroying our traditional concept of dinosaurs as Saurischia + Ornithischia, throwing our cladistic definitions into turmoil and overturning over 100 years of traditional, well-known and deeply rooted classification conventions.


Oh hang on a second.
For. Crying. Out. Loud. That. Conclusion. Was. Only. Based. On. One. Study. And. Is. Far. From. Established.
First of all, did you really have to put full stops everywhere, giving your post an angry and even rude feel? Secondly, much of our paleontological and scientific conclusions are based on just one study. Thirdly, many palaeontologists have accepted the new idea as likely. Fourthly, DK wasn't saying it is an established idea, so why get so angry?
Edited by Beetleboy, Apr 3 2017, 08:05 AM.
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Apr 3 2017, 08:05 AM
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Apr 2 2017, 09:23 PM
ÐK
Mar 24 2017, 08:53 PM
— Theropoda and Ornithischia are actually sister groups, to the exclusion of Sauropodomorpha and destroying our traditional concept of dinosaurs as Saurischia + Ornithischia, throwing our cladistic definitions into turmoil and overturning over 100 years of traditional, well-known and deeply rooted classification conventions.


Oh hang on a second.
For. Crying. Out. Loud. That. Conclusion. Was. Only. Based. On. One. Study. And. Is. Far. From. Established.
First of all, did you really have to put full stops everywhere, giving your post an angry and even rude feel? Secondly, much of our paleontological and scientific conclusions are based on just one study. Thirdly, many palaeontologists have accepted the new idea as likely. Fourthly, DK wasn't saying it is an established idea, so why get so angry?
Okay, sorry. Maybe I did overreact a little. I had no rude intentions. I put the periods to be kinda of funny.

I know other things are based on one study, but that's because there is limited information. But for something as well known, well preserved, and extensively studied as dinosaurs, that excuse just doesn't cut it.

But it kind of annoys me that people jump to conclusions so fast. Everyone seems to assume this the new truth, when its far from confirmed. Sorry, my outburst contradicted the point of this thread. Sincere apologies.
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Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized.
Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal.
Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents.

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Pterosaurs are dinosaurs

Bats are primates

Birds and mammals are sister groups with a fuzzy, intelligent, warm blooded ancestor

The notochord of chordates and stomochord of hemichordates are homologous and come from an ancestral internal cord that was lost in echinoderms

The endoskeletons of echinoderms and vertebrates are homologous and have been secondarily lost in other dueterostomes.

Nematodes are annelids

Articulata is correct, with panarthropods coming from polychaete worms.

Tunicates where actually the group destined for great things, with vertebrates being weird, basal offshoots. But their success was intentionally sabotaged by intelligent aliens who liked vertebrates.

All of bilatera come from a lobopod-like ancestor

The ancestral vertebrate was an endoparasite of large worms. It simply hasn't been discovered yet, and the earliest vertebrates we do know off are actually just it's first free living descendants.

Lophophorates are actually a sister group to dueterostomes
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Punga: A terraformed world with no vertebrates
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ARTH-6810: A world without vertebrates (It's ded, but you can still read I guess)

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Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized.
Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal.
Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents.

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Fairy shrimp are actually derived merostomatans that convergently evolved a forked tail.

Snakes are descended from caecilians, which in turn evolved independently from ray finned fish.

Tetrapodophis is in fact an amphisbaenian before it lost the back legs unnecessary for burrowing.
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Every mass extinction has been caused by the rise of a sapient species, likely resulting in the extinction of the species. As follows:

Orthocerid cephalopods became sapient to a degree that allowed them to bypass fire and get straight to chemistry. They soon figured out how to maintain electricity underwater and created a particle accelerator. However, it didn't even survive a year because of an electrical shortage and proceeded to meltdown, causing a short burst of gamma rays to bounce off the ionosphere. Along with an increase in ice-farming at the poles recently causing an icecap to begin collapse, they were wiped out by the sudden climate change.

End Devonian was caused by intelligent eurypterids creating canal systems and dumping the high-carbon peat moss into the ocean, creating several anoxic events, the last of which messed with their food supplies enough to kill them off.

End Permian has already been explained; in this case the sapient species managed to survive.

Pangaea was actually pretty stable and may have stayed in it's general arrangement until the late Jurassic if the Triassic Krakens hadn't been fracking the continental shelf so much.

A sapient species of Dakotaraptor actually managed to get to space and set up some asteroid mining expeditions. However, one went horribly wrong and the asteroid crashed to the surface near the most inhabited and farmed region. They barely managed to set coordinates for a planet to colonize before the last surface dweller died in the resulting dust bowls. Their descendants evolved into Panderavis pandora, but were eliminated by the Qu.

As for us... well, the survivors are just wondering if Earth finally produced a species capable of slowing down before it's too late.
Edited by Inceptis, Apr 16 2017, 10:50 PM.
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Eukaryotes are polyphyletic, with the SAR supergroup independently evolving from cyanobactera.
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Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized.
Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal.
Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents.

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Eukaryotes are polyphyletic, with the SAR supergroup independently evolving from cyanobactera.
Actually, that wouldn't work as a paranoid illuminati rantvalid speculation since the chloroplasts have two membranes, meaning they likely had a membrane to begin with and then got absorbed through the plasma membrane, getting a second layer.

Then again, the nucleus has a double membrane as well- does that mean the first endosymbiosis wasn't the mitochondrion, but a karyoklepty made permanent, the cell losing the extra-nuclear DNA as time went by or pushing through the nuclear pores? Perhaps the first mitosis was more like a binary fission within a binary fission, but then the inside one didn't have to worry as much about losing it's genetic information and dissolved it's membrane during division.
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Gahrials aren't crocodilians, but actually the last extant phytosaurs.
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Punga: A terraformed world with no vertebrates
Last one crawling: The last arthropod

ARTH-6810: A world without vertebrates (It's ded, but you can still read I guess)

Potential ideas-
Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized.
Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal.
Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents.

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Alright, my turn. Here we go...


Rodents are actually multituberculates which evolved a placenta independently.

Mammals and birds (and by extension, dinosaurs) are descended from a common archosaurian ancestor.

Ankylosaurs never went extinct: they evolved into turtles.

Nudibranchs have produced terrestrial forms on isolated landmasses that have disappeared from the fossil record.

Beetles are descended from eurypterids. That's why the Diving Beetle exists.

Humans are not primates, but highly derived flightless pterosaurs.

There was a sapient species of troodontid in the Maastritchian. They caused the K-Pg extinction event when an asteroid mining operation went wrong. They evacuated Earth and now they're out amongst the stars.

Bees don't exist. Only wasps.
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Megaraptorids are time traveling Ammonites from the future that have spliced themselves humans, before losing their sapience in the early Jurassic and being genetically manipulated into the forms we know by Troodontids as bioweapons. they were abandoned in the wild after the Troodontids lost in the war against the atlantians (who were aquatic apes who transcended the universe)

they more or less behaved like dinosaurs, except for their bioplasma cannon tails and semi cartilaginous skeleton (explaining the lack of complete skeletons) 



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