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Biggest biological plot twist
Topic Started: Nov 6 2016, 12:28 PM (19,616 Views)
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"Amphibians" are monophyletic and amniotes don't exist. They are figments of our imaginations.

Dinosaurs did not have feathers.

Carl Linnaeus was right about everything.

Longisquama is a pterosaur.

Everything the public likes to call dinosaurs is indeed a dinosaur.

Shrimp aren't crustaceans, but actually late surviving anomalocarids.

All fossils are hoaxes.

Pill millipede are actually derived trilobites.

The north pacific tree octopus is real.

Pinnepids, sirenians, cetaceans, mosasaurs, ichthyosaurs, plesiosaurs, metriorhynchids, sea snakes and turtles form a monophyletic group and are derived from rhizodont fish, therefore not being tetrapods.
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Haematothermia is a monophyletic grouping uniting Synapsids (Mammals and their ancestors) with Archosauromorphs (Turtles, Birds, Crocodiles, Dinosaurs, Pterosaurs, and Plesiosaurs).
Edited by Whiteshore, Feb 26 2017, 08:33 PM.
Go to Crurotheria:A world of Killer Rodents,Notosuchid Elephants,and Sirenian Hippos:
http://s1.zetaboards.com/Conceptual_Evolution/topic/5035229/1/
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Feb 26 2017, 08:32 PM
Haematothermia is a monophyletic grouping uniting Synapsids (Mammals and their ancestors) with Archosauromorphs (Turtles, Birds, Crocodiles, Dinosaurs, Pterosaurs, and Plesiosaurs).
So, basically David Peter's archosauromorpha?

(Wait, has the position of turtles and plesiosaurs even been confirmed yet?)
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Punga: A terraformed world with no vertebrates
Last one crawling: The last arthropod

ARTH-6810: A world without vertebrates (It's ded, but you can still read I guess)

Potential ideas-
Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized.
Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal.
Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents.

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IIRC, turtles and plesiosaurs are either placed directly next to Archosauria as the Pantestudines, or turtles are within Parareptilia and plesiosaurs are just stuck somewhere in Diapsida.
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Feb 26 2017, 11:58 PM
IIRC, turtles and plesiosaurs are either placed directly next to Archosauria as the Pantestudines, or turtles are within Parareptilia and plesiosaurs are just stuck somewhere in Diapsida.
Where do ichthyosaurs fit?
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Punga: A terraformed world with no vertebrates
Last one crawling: The last arthropod

ARTH-6810: A world without vertebrates (It's ded, but you can still read I guess)

Potential ideas-
Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized.
Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal.
Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents.

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Feb 27 2017, 12:21 AM
Where do ichthyosaurs fit?
The closest we can figure out is that they're neodiapsids of some sort, but that's about it. Ichthyosauromorphs just sort of show up in the fossil record already pretty derived and lacking any obvious features that would reveal their ancestry.
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I'm sorry but in what alternative universe would thousands of zebras be sent back in time by some sort of illegal time travel group to change history and preparing them by making gigantic working animatronic allosaurs?

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Insect Illuminati Get Shrekt
Feb 27 2017, 12:21 AM
Where do ichthyosaurs fit?
The closest we can figure out is that they're neodiapsids of some sort, but that's about it. Ichthyosauromorphs just sort of show up in the fossil record already pretty derived and lacking any obvious features that would reveal their ancestry.
"A gap in the fossil record!? Creation must be true!!"


Sorry. But anyway, Claudiosaurus germaini looks vaguely like and ichthyosaur.
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ARTH-6810: A world without vertebrates (It's ded, but you can still read I guess)

Potential ideas-
Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized.
Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal.
Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents.

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Feb 27 2017, 06:40 AM
Sorry. But anyway, Claudiosaurus germaini looks vaguely like and ichthyosaur.
Perhaps, but phylogenetic analyses have yet to recover it in any meaningful position relative to ichthyosauromorphs. As a basal neodiapsid itself, it could possibly represent what the ancestral icthyosauromorph stock looked like, if it itself isn't necessarily a close relation.
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I'm sorry but in what alternative universe would thousands of zebras be sent back in time by some sort of illegal time travel group to change history and preparing them by making gigantic working animatronic allosaurs?

~Komodo, Zebra's sent back in time (4/1/13)
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Interesting. Anyway, back to making conspiracy theories valid biological facts.

Humans aren't primates, but actually very derived theropod dinosaurs.

Nanotyrannus is not only real, but the most powerful animal ever. It could eat a blue whale, t rex, and elephant at the same time.

Dragonthunders isn't human, but an actual photosynthetic archosaur that evolved during the mid triassic.

All the cells in multicellular life are actually seperate organisms and can leave anytime they want.

Whale birds existed during the cretacous. There is no fossils because they where all abducted by aliens.
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Punga: A terraformed world with no vertebrates
Last one crawling: The last arthropod

ARTH-6810: A world without vertebrates (It's ded, but you can still read I guess)

Potential ideas-
Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized.
Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal.
Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents.

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Hummingbirds are members of the monitor lizard family, like snakes and komodo monitors and mosasaurs. (have you never seen a hummingbird's forked tongue?)
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First off, this is a magnificent, and magnificently deranged, thread.

Secondly, the biggest biological plot twist is simple: dog genetic variability and physical changes are researched, and it is revealed that all life is, in fact, just a really weird looking dog. Crossbreeds abound in this new, more horrible age...

The Doggonozoic.
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All vertebrate subclades do not exist. They are merely artifacts of sampling bias. Vertebrata is just one homogenized class.
Projects
Punga: A terraformed world with no vertebrates
Last one crawling: The last arthropod

ARTH-6810: A world without vertebrates (It's ded, but you can still read I guess)

Potential ideas-
Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized.
Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal.
Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents.

Quotes


Phylogeny of the arthropods and some related groups


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aphids are, in fact, ants.
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-The first amniotes were shell-less turtles, which evolved from basal frogs.

-Amniota is polyphyletic. Synapsids and Sauropsids evolved from separate Amphibian lineages.

-Every synapsid with the exception of Mammaliaformes reproduced via frogspawn which was just a little bit more watertight than the eggs of modern lissamphibians, and was kept moist by urine, sweat, and later, milk. Only Mammaliaform Cynodonts developed a Platypus-like amniotic egg.

-Mesosaurus is more closely related to Synapsids than to Sauropsids.

-Turtles are more basal amniotes than either Synapsids or Sauropsids.

-Squamates didn't develop from Diapsids, but from very basal Synapsids.
Edited by Mitosis, Mar 24 2017, 08:16 PM.
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— Theropoda and Ornithischia are actually sister groups, to the exclusion of Sauropodomorpha and destroying our traditional concept of dinosaurs as Saurischia + Ornithischia, throwing our cladistic definitions into turmoil and overturning over 100 years of traditional, well-known and deeply rooted classification conventions.


Oh hang on a second.
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I'm sorry but in what alternative universe would thousands of zebras be sent back in time by some sort of illegal time travel group to change history and preparing them by making gigantic working animatronic allosaurs?

~Komodo, Zebra's sent back in time (4/1/13)
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