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| HangingThief | Dec 16 2016, 11:01 PM Post #31 |
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Sure, there are several. The main threats to most testudines are overharvesting and habitat fragmentation. |
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| CaledonianWarrior96 | Jan 7 2017, 07:28 PM Post #32 |
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What are the chances of survival for amphisbaenians and legless lizards? The groups seems pretty well established in their environments but how vulnerable are they to threats like habitat destruction, pollution, invasive species and climate change? |
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| HangingThief | Jan 7 2017, 08:35 PM Post #33 |
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I don't see anything that would set them apart from other reptiles. The subterranean habits of many species might make them less vulnerable to invasive species and climate change. |
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| Xenotaris | Feb 21 2017, 10:05 AM Post #34 |
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well if humans do overpopulate the planet and there is little to no non-human animals left, I believe if there is any sort of cataclysm... Humans would have to fill those niches. Man after Man anyone?
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| Rodlox | Feb 21 2017, 02:10 PM Post #35 |
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why would humans fill the niches? if there's no other animals left, what keeps the humans/posthumans alive? and if there are other animals left, those would diversify into the niches, not humans. |
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| CaledonianWarrior96 | Feb 21 2017, 03:03 PM Post #36 |
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Also man after man involved genetic engineering as far as I'm aware. Also we like to keep man after man in the dark away from the forums |
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| CaledonianWarrior96 | Mar 27 2017, 09:50 AM Post #37 |
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So I was looking online about tigers in America and found out there are 5,000 captive tigers in the US compared to the 3,200 in the wild. As much as that made me sad, it also got me thinking; if tigers in the wild did die out, what's the possibility of tigers in North America surviving at least a few million years in the future? |
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| Adman | Mar 27 2017, 10:01 AM Post #38 |
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My guess is that it all depends on the circumstances at hand. If there's a prey-rich environment for escaped tigers to live in, and enough captive tigers end up escaping and surviving, then a sustainable population could end up forming. However that's all due to chance, and there's a possibility that the tigers would end up just dying out. That's why I'm iffy about including escaped exotics in future evolution scenarios, the environment could either support escaped animals, or it could be their undoing. |
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| Sheather | Mar 27 2017, 10:04 AM Post #39 |
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Those tigers live in pens. If they could escape them, there would already be wild American tigers. In other words, no chance of their survival without someone there to feed them. |
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| CaledonianWarrior96 | Mar 27 2017, 10:51 AM Post #40 |
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That's something I thought about; their ability to escape their enclosures. Like if their enclosures really were designed to prevent escape then it would be likely they would die within a few weeks. But I'm also taking into account zoos and other facilities with poor anti-escape structures and protocols. So I guess a better more refined question is that those that do escape (say, 20%), could they maintain a viable breeding population, especially given the massive area size the US has |
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| Sheather | Mar 27 2017, 11:14 AM Post #41 |
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Even really bad zoos keep their animals in 99.99% of the time. Again, if the tigers could get out, they'd be out. |
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| LittleLazyLass | Mar 27 2017, 02:00 PM Post #42 |
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Not really, without humans around it'll be easier for them to escape. As it is they're monitored, obviously. They'll also be more desperate to escape once there's no food. |
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| CaledonianWarrior96 | Mar 27 2017, 06:05 PM Post #43 |
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Just thought of something else; many people state dogs wouldn't survive because; 1) some breeds are essentially helpless and can't survive without humans, like pugs (which I believe as fact) 2) they need to learn how to hunt so without that they could only scavenge on scraps or dead animals But if some hardy dogs did survive long enough to take up a scavenging lifestyle, would they still not be able to survive and further develop in the future? Or is the dog becoming extinct idea more attributed to the fact domesticated (turned-feral) dogs would mate with wolves and eventually all phenotypic traces of dogs and their tamed behaviour would disappear as hybrid breeds develop and then evolve into more wolf-like canids again? |
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| 3lfig | Mar 28 2017, 06:24 PM Post #44 |
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I think dogs are not so likely to go extinct. Look at the dingo. They were domesticated, turned feral, and now are completely wild, top predators in Australia. Also if feral dogs mate with wolves the hybrid would be more dog-like than wolf-like because (probably) there would be much more dogs than wolves after HEE. |
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| Scrublord | Mar 28 2017, 07:02 PM Post #45 |
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I think it's pretty much agreed here that most small or highly specialized dog breeds (chihuahuas, poodles, bulldogs, etc.) are probably doomed. They've been so heavily altered through selective breeding that they are essentially unable to survive in the wild. The ones that would do well in a post-human world are the ones that haven't diverged much from wolves in the first place. Bear in mind, though, that domestic dogs (including dingos) are still subspecies of the gray wolf, and are capable of hybridizing with wolves and other wild canines. In a post-human future, domestic dogs may "reintegrate" themselves back into populations of wild dogs such as wolves, jackals, and coyotes. Edited by Scrublord, Mar 28 2017, 07:03 PM.
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