Terror Birds

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Terror Birds; Phorusracids, back in the future?
Topic Started: Sep 11 2008, 07:27 AM (3,942 Views)
Spartan Delta	Sep 11 2008, 07:27 AM Post #1
Infant Posts: 93 Group: Members Member #76 Joined: Sep 10, 2008 Gender: Private	Um, I should ask... ...Aside from "the Future is Wild", are there any other chances of the Phorusracids re-evolving?



Carlos	Sep 11 2008, 01:21 PM Post #2
Adveho in me Lucifero Posts: 11,702 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: May 31, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Portugayse Favorite Quote: Blame is the playing of children and is given to many like a gift that cannot be returned. Acceptance is the tool of the mature that is rarely loaned out.	New large predatory birds could indeed evolve. We have plenty of candidates for future terror birds: secretary birds, seriemas, caracaras, ravens, seagulls, roadrunners...
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SIngemeister	Sep 11 2008, 01:37 PM Post #3
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Carlos	Sep 11 2008, 03:19 PM Post #4
Adveho in me Lucifero Posts: 11,702 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: May 31, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Portugayse Favorite Quote: Blame is the playing of children and is given to many like a gift that cannot be returned. Acceptance is the tool of the mature that is rarely loaned out.	I don't think eagles could become fast, flightless predators; their feet anatomy is too adapted to be used as killing weapons, so I really doubt they could develop feet usefull for running. Owls, on the other hand...
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Livyatan	Sep 11 2008, 03:23 PM Post #5
Posts: 1,998 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: May 24, 2008 Area of expertise: Future Evolution Favorite Quote: "Knowledge never springs from faith. It springs from doubt." - Humayun Azad Nationality: American	Owls, caracaras, secretary birds, etc. are the best candidates as far as your predatory birds.
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lamna	Sep 11 2008, 03:41 PM Post #6
Posts: 21,140 Group: Global Mods Member #26 Joined: Jul 1, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: British	It is quite likely. Large predatory birds have evolved twice. Both the terrorbirds and birds like Gastornis came to similer body plans.
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Carlos	Sep 11 2008, 03:41 PM Post #7
Adveho in me Lucifero Posts: 11,702 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: May 31, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Portugayse Favorite Quote: Blame is the playing of children and is given to many like a gift that cannot be returned. Acceptance is the tool of the mature that is rarely loaned out.	Not to mention the dromornids...
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SIngemeister	Sep 11 2008, 04:08 PM Post #8
Hive Tyrant of the Essee Swarm Posts: 4,792 Group: Away Staff Member #49 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Formerly Anglo-Irish, now Gribbly Favorite Quote: "That's the least funniest thing ever." "BURNING ORPHANS!"	Eagles have a better way of ground motion than Ravens, and ravens could easily become terror bird-esque.
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Carlos	Sep 11 2008, 04:09 PM Post #9
Adveho in me Lucifero Posts: 11,702 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: May 31, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Portugayse Favorite Quote: Blame is the playing of children and is given to many like a gift that cannot be returned. Acceptance is the tool of the mature that is rarely loaned out.	Actually no, ravens don't use their feet to kill prey, and therefore lack many adaptations that eagles evolved Edited by Carlos, Sep 11 2008, 04:10 PM.
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SIngemeister	Sep 11 2008, 04:12 PM Post #10
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Sliver Slave	Sep 11 2008, 04:15 PM Post #11
I'm going back to basics. Posts: 1,857 Group: Away Staff Member #30 Joined: Jul 6, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Canadian. Just like Phasey!	I think secretary birds are probably the best choice.
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Carlos	Sep 11 2008, 05:30 PM Post #12
Adveho in me Lucifero Posts: 11,702 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: May 31, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Portugayse Favorite Quote: Blame is the playing of children and is given to many like a gift that cannot be returned. Acceptance is the tool of the mature that is rarely loaned out.	And caracaras are FALCONS, Singemeister
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SIngemeister	Sep 13 2008, 11:26 AM Post #13
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Black_Panther	Sep 13 2008, 11:41 AM Post #14
Adolescent Posts: 472 Group: Members Member #56 Joined: Aug 17, 2008 Gender: Private Nationality: Mexico	I remembert hat the Trip to Neocene page had a land 'carnivorous parrot' (the Griffarrot)...looked like a mix between a dodo and a parrot, except, well, more carnivorous. Aside from that 'carnivorous parrot', there are several species that could evolve into 'new phorusracids'...cranes, herons, caracaras, vultures (i'm working on a titanis-like flightless vulture for my project), seagulls, skuas, secretary birds... Give them an environment without large predators like cats, dogs or mustelids and a savannah or grassland environment and you could have terror birds in a near future. If african big cats and wild dogs get extinct, there's no doubt the secretary bird will reach a big size...
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Livyatan	Sep 13 2008, 12:23 PM Post #15
Posts: 1,998 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: May 24, 2008 Area of expertise: Future Evolution Favorite Quote: "Knowledge never springs from faith. It springs from doubt." - Humayun Azad Nationality: American	SIngemeister Sep 13 2008, 11:26 AM If anything falcons are less designed for walking. They boast the fastest creatures in the air among their species ranks. Actually the caracara subgroup is well known for spending most of its time hunting on ground. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Caracara By evolutionary standards, its a falcon but really doesn't act like its falcon cousins.
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