Domesticated/Feral/Introduced Species

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Domesticated/Feral/Introduced Species
Topic Started: May 29 2008, 07:32 PM (3,880 Views)
Livyatan	May 29 2008, 07:32 PM Post #1
Posts: 1,998 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: May 24, 2008 Area of expertise: Future Evolution Favorite Quote: "Knowledge never springs from faith. It springs from doubt." - Humayun Azad Nationality: American	This topic is for the discussion of domesticated/feral/introduced species and their roles in future ecosystems. Just so you have some basis for discussion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestication http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduced_species
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Livyatan	Sep 10 2008, 06:10 PM Post #46
Posts: 1,998 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: May 24, 2008 Area of expertise: Future Evolution Favorite Quote: "Knowledge never springs from faith. It springs from doubt." - Humayun Azad Nationality: American	We already have this topic
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Yorick	Sep 10 2008, 06:15 PM Post #47
Adult Posts: 931 Group: Members Member #74 Joined: Sep 5, 2008 Nationality: American	It was about the future of pets in a HUMAN-POPULATED world though! You could have at least have given me some warning you were going to do this. Edited by Yorick, Sep 10 2008, 07:00 PM.
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Livyatan	Sep 10 2008, 06:25 PM Post #48
Posts: 1,998 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: May 24, 2008 Area of expertise: Future Evolution Favorite Quote: "Knowledge never springs from faith. It springs from doubt." - Humayun Azad Nationality: American	Yorick Sep 10 2008, 06:15 PM It wasn't about the future of pets in a HUMAN-POPULATED world though! Doesn't matter, this topic is for discussion of any domesticated species regardless of scenario. We don't need a dozen threads about the same thing when there could be just one.
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Yorick	Sep 10 2008, 06:34 PM Post #49
Adult Posts: 931 Group: Members Member #74 Joined: Sep 5, 2008 Nationality: American	What are the chances that people will equally discuss my topic though? Now my question is lost in the shuffle. Edited by Yorick, Sep 10 2008, 06:35 PM.
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Livyatan	Sep 10 2008, 06:37 PM Post #50
Posts: 1,998 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: May 24, 2008 Area of expertise: Future Evolution Favorite Quote: "Knowledge never springs from faith. It springs from doubt." - Humayun Azad Nationality: American	Yorick Sep 10 2008, 06:34 PM What are the chances that people will equally discuss my topic though? Now my question is lost in the shuffle. Well you actually haven't introduced anything new in the first place. I'd rather things be kept organized then have everyone posting a new topic for every single idea that pops in their head.
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Yorick	Sep 11 2008, 03:54 PM Post #51
Adult Posts: 931 Group: Members Member #74 Joined: Sep 5, 2008 Nationality: American	Quote: Well you actually haven't introduced anything new in the first place. I did since I was only talking about domesticated pets in a future with humans. Quote: I'd rather things be kept organized then have everyone posting a new topic for every single idea that pops in their head. Not to question your wisdom, but I personally feel that threads divided in this forum by a Dougla Dixonian human-less world and a Peter Wardian human-ful world would actually lead to greater organization. Everyone's mind switches immediately towards the former while any questions or comments about the latter are ignored and lost like mine will be. Edited by Yorick, Sep 11 2008, 04:22 PM.
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MitchBeard	Mar 16 2010, 06:27 PM Post #52
proud gondwanan Posts: 431 Group: Members Member #281 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male Nationality: Australian	Quote: Chickens would surely die, as they are unable to survive without humans. Not entirely true. There are establish populations of "jungle fowl" in northern Australia. Domesticated escapees that have already reverted to wild phenotypes. Quote: I'm assuming something about Australia would make it more advantageous to use speed rather than poison for defense. Perhaps it has something to do with the abundance of large, slow reptilian predators like monitor lizards, which would probably have some trouble chasing toads for long periods of time. Goannas are actually quite fast with very good endurance for a squamate. I think cane toads would have a hard time evolving into something that can outrun a cane toad. I agree with Saxophlutist, it will be more a case of predators adapting to toads than toads becoming less potent.



colddigger	Mar 17 2010, 12:33 AM Post #53
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Flash	Apr 20 2010, 05:40 PM Post #54
Newborn Posts: 65 Group: Members Member #186 Joined: Jul 10, 2009 Nationality: American	May be this is a hoax, but I came across this Youtube video showing ferral chihuahuas. On small islands with a lack of large predators and no competition I think chihuahuas can be somewhat successful. http://www.youtube. com/watch?v=DBa1SMgeUV8&feature=related



Ook	Apr 22 2010, 03:06 PM Post #55
not a Transhuman Posts: 2,933 Group: Members Member #282 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male	fake but at hawai are big population of feral chickens http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EknS_iKAU6c&feature=related they could evolve into giant flightless birds(i say giant,but they propably will be tall only as adult man)



Pando	Apr 22 2010, 03:44 PM Post #56
Obey or I'll send you to the moon Posts: 5,648 Group: Members Member #275 Joined: Feb 24, 2010 Area of expertise: Future Evolution	What about rhino-like horse descendants or giraffe like goat descendants? And/or horse-like goat descendants? And there could also be wilderbeest-like goat descendants. Goats have a lot of potential.



Toad of Spades	Apr 22 2010, 08:00 PM Post #57
Clorothod Posts: 624 Group: Members Member #114 Joined: Dec 27, 2008 Nationality: United States Favorite Quote: Street smart is just an excuse for dumb people to use the word smart to describe themselves.	What about domestic dogs? They have alot of physical diversity for a single subspecies. Here are a few ideas. A solitary badger-like dog descended from daschunds. Pack hunting lion-like dogs descended from short haired molosser breeds like boxers and bull terriers. Bear-like dogs descended from Saint Bernards. Pack hunting dogs resembling huge otters descended from labrador retrievers.
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MitchBeard	Apr 22 2010, 09:22 PM Post #58
proud gondwanan Posts: 431 Group: Members Member #281 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male Nationality: Australian	You would need some pretty exception conditions to get something like that happening. Domesticated animals always trend back towards the wild type when they go feral. Mongrelizing and all that jazz. It could be possible to radiate out like that after going feral though I guess. Still cool ideas thou. I can see camels in Australia undergoing a pretty explosive adaptive radiation. A few llama like forms, giraffe forms, massive stocky rhinoesque forms. Don't think they could out-compete macropods thou, they'd just take up different niche space.



Ook	Apr 23 2010, 12:29 AM Post #59
not a Transhuman Posts: 2,933 Group: Members Member #282 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male	about that dogs,they will go back to wild form...sorry,no feral chihuahuas..



Pando	Apr 23 2010, 12:44 AM Post #60
Obey or I'll send you to the moon Posts: 5,648 Group: Members Member #275 Joined: Feb 24, 2010 Area of expertise: Future Evolution	What about the Brumby horse?



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