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| Topic Started: May 29 2008, 07:32 PM (3,881 Views) | |
| Livyatan | May 29 2008, 07:32 PM Post #1 |
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This topic is for the discussion of domesticated/feral/introduced species and their roles in future ecosystems. Just so you have some basis for discussion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestication http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduced_species |
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| Livyatan | Jun 9 2008, 07:35 PM Post #31 |
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Or coyotes. You must also remember that breed boundaries will disintegrate as humans will no longer be there to control how dogs breed. The result will be a mass of mutts, rather than purebred chihuahuas, Dobermans, and German shepherds,etc. |
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| Sliver Slave | Jul 6 2008, 10:57 PM Post #32 |
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Pugs would die. they have so many health problems associated with them, they couldn't make it. I'd say rabbits and cats would do very, very well though. |
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| Deleted User | Jul 12 2008, 02:41 PM Post #33 |
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corn has been modifed so much and is so dependent on humans for propigation that it would almost certainly go extinct without us growing it. |
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| Deleted User | Jul 12 2008, 02:46 PM Post #34 |
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this is something of a tangent but, if we do go extinct. the radiation of domestic and feril species would be a sure sign to sombody that might explore our planet in the future that something strange went on in the past here (us). basicly species that were for the most part extremly local, would almost instanty appear world wide in the fossil record without any natural means that they could have gotten there. if we ever do go star fairing, we might look at a planets fossil record for something like this that might indicate intelegent life in the past. |
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| Cynovolans | Jul 12 2008, 04:08 PM Post #35 |
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Desertification could become a problem in areas around the Sahara, or maybe now that they wouldn't have any fence or anything to prevent them from leaving it could actually slow down desertification that started when humans kept the animals. |
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| Livyatan | Jul 12 2008, 05:13 PM Post #36 |
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I don't think that the Sahara desert and other such expanded areas will be too major after we go extinct. I think future climatic changes would help remove scrape away these barren lands. |
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| Carlos | Jul 12 2008, 05:17 PM Post #37 |
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Yes; besides, north Africa will collide with southern Europe, thus possibly creating a mountain range that stops the rain clouds from going northwards, thus creating a monsoon like climate |
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| Livyatan | Jul 12 2008, 05:19 PM Post #38 |
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I find that to be more an issue with mountains that go north to south. There aren't really many weather systems that go Europe to Africa. |
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| Cynovolans | Jul 12 2008, 06:51 PM Post #39 |
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Yes, and as far as monsoons in Africa goes is the Sahel which is right in front of the Sahara. Though there is a possibilty that monsoons will move even more North but I don't think it would ever reach the mountain range.
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| PousazPower | Jul 12 2008, 07:17 PM Post #40 |
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The main reason cockroaches are so successful in places like Canada and the US is that we have heated houses. Although it's true that cockroaches have been around since the Carboniferous period, humans wouldn't gradually go extinct over millions of years if we're talking about a scenario like this and the one in The World Without Us, so they probably wouldn't have enough time to adapt to the colder temperatures in the absence of heated houses; they'd be pushed back into warmer places like Mexico and Central America. |
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| Livyatan | Jul 12 2008, 07:34 PM Post #41 |
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Yes, I completely agree, especially since I've read that book, too. 
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| PousazPower | Jul 12 2008, 08:43 PM Post #42 |
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I don't think we've been talking about how certain invasive species with usually devastating results upon first introduction would "go native". In other words, their destructive powers would be diminished, becoming specialists, or, in the case of cane toads in Oz, the development of less potent venom and longer legs. Because there's generally no competition where they're introduced, I'd think that introduced species would tend to relax their adaptations to their original habitats, making everybody, including QUOLLS(!) more happy 
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| Saxophlutist | Jul 12 2008, 09:01 PM Post #43 |
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The cane toad evolution thing has amused (And frightened) me very much. Thankfully there are many things evolving in response to them to help reduce populations. (And bird using their intelligence to kill them without toxication) |
 
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| PousazPower | Jul 12 2008, 09:12 PM Post #44 |
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I'm assuming something about Australia would make it more advantageous to use speed rather than poison for defense. Perhaps it has something to do with the abundance of large, slow reptilian predators like monitor lizards, which would probably have some trouble chasing toads for long periods of time. |
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| Yorick | Sep 10 2008, 05:59 PM Post #45 |
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In my 'Earth Zoology 3120' world (inspired by Peter Ward's Future Evolution), feral cats and feral dogs would likely become vicious fringe predators filling the niche of cougars and wolves and endangered lynxes and coyotes. But what about our non-feral dogs and cats and other pets? Would our genetic engineering move from not only the dividing human race (I'm sure everyone here has heard of a possible dystopian Gattaca-like world where the rich are the gentically elite and the poor are genetiically inferior leading to not just two classes but two whole different races) but also our domestic companions? Maybe dogs and cats capable of human speech and holding a conversation? Cats and dogs in the shade of pink or blue? Just imagine! Edited by Yorick, Sep 10 2008, 06:59 PM.
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