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| The Neanderthal | |
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| Topic Started: Sep 5 2008, 07:37 PM (2,273 Views) | |
| Yorick | Sep 5 2008, 07:37 PM Post #1 |
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*Alternate timeline finds that through mercy of early man, neanderthals did not go exinct when the cro-magnon migrated to Europe. It's present day. What happens? I think that humans would today would still be at around the same point in our civilization. We still have coomputers connected to the interent, airplanes, telephones, etc. The neanderthal on the other hand are our servants/pets. They're not slaves like the Africans of pre-Civil War America or ancient Rome and the like but rather treated as a higher form of animal. Much like the goblins of the "Harry Potter" books. They're treated higher than our companion pets like cats and dogs but since they can talk and have hands with an opposable thumb, they're very helpful and we're practically symbiotic. Humans rule the world with our mastery of science and technology while our primitive cousins pass us the test tubes. *According to scientific law, an ecosystem has a fixed number of species. When a new species is introduced to a foreign ecosystem, either that new species dies out because it can't adapt or the new species thrives and drives a a native rival or food animal to extinction. For the purposes of this scenario, this law was upheld because of man's tendency to step out of his biology and live alongside the neaderthal. Edited by Yorick, Nov 9 2008, 12:32 AM.
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| lamna | Nov 9 2008, 05:23 AM Post #16 |
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No, what was it about? Neanderthal code? |
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| Cynovolans | Nov 9 2008, 08:45 AM Post #17 |
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I didn't see it either. By code would that mean genome code? |
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I wish I could give the public a true picture of the queen as she appeared at her best, but this would be impossible, even had she permitted a photograph to be taken, for her charming play of expression while in conversation, the character and intellect which were then revealed, were only half seen when the face was in repose. -Lilias Underwood when speaking of Empress Myeongseong "I was born in the dark. I went out into the light, and your Majesty, it is my displeasure to inform you that I have returned to the dark. I envision a Seoul of towering buildings filled with Western establishments that will place herself back above the Japanese barbarians. Great things lie ahead for the Kingdom, great things. We must take action, your Majesty, without hesitation, to further modernize this still ancient kingdom."-Min Young-ik to Empress Myeongseong | |
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| Yorick | Nov 9 2008, 03:10 PM Post #18 |
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It talked about the life and times of Neanderthal and that they may be still with us today after we interbred with them |
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| lamna | Nov 12 2008, 07:33 PM Post #19 |
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DNA evidence suggests we did not. Which is a real shame, because I always liked the idea of this. |
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| Cynovolans | Nov 12 2008, 08:57 PM Post #20 |
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Actually it suggest we only did not on a large scale, so there is a possibility we did interbreed with them just not on a large scale. I just wonder what does haplogroup D have to do with the extinction of the Neanderthals. Haplogroup D was created at the time of the Neanderthals extinction, and it is the dominant gene that may be what gave us the big jump to intelligance. |
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I wish I could give the public a true picture of the queen as she appeared at her best, but this would be impossible, even had she permitted a photograph to be taken, for her charming play of expression while in conversation, the character and intellect which were then revealed, were only half seen when the face was in repose. -Lilias Underwood when speaking of Empress Myeongseong "I was born in the dark. I went out into the light, and your Majesty, it is my displeasure to inform you that I have returned to the dark. I envision a Seoul of towering buildings filled with Western establishments that will place herself back above the Japanese barbarians. Great things lie ahead for the Kingdom, great things. We must take action, your Majesty, without hesitation, to further modernize this still ancient kingdom."-Min Young-ik to Empress Myeongseong | |
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| CarrionTrooper | Nov 13 2008, 08:22 AM Post #21 |
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I require more vespene gas?!?
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I can't resist saying ORC minus WAAAGH. Maybe in this alternate history, Neanderthal communities would flourish in cold climates, while more would venture out from Europe. Maybe we'll see them get abused in some human community (slavery, genocide, labratting, forced military service etc) while some treat them good (employing them as nature teachers, park rangers, huntsmen, paid labor etc). It's just the question of which culture are tolerant of them. And while the world grow to modern age, we may grow to accept them in our societies... and none of this global warming hulabaloo. The Neanderthals had teached us to be eco-friendly, and maybe even the discovery of oil would still not stall the Neanderthal's preaching of one with nature.
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| lamna | Nov 13 2008, 12:19 PM Post #22 |
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Or Neanderthals could be fantastically wasteful, burning fuel with wild abandon, blood sports popular with the majority of the population the environment not mattering at all to them. Why do people always assume that humans are the worse animals possible, and that other intelligent species would live in harmony with nature. It's like positive racism towards Aboriginal people, particularity native Americans |
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| Yorick | Nov 13 2008, 03:37 PM Post #23 |
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"Why do people always assume that humans are the worse animals possible..." We've wiped out entire species of plants and animals for reasons as trivial as decorations and fashion. And don't even get me started of our long history of wars, slavery, genocide, etc. |
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| lamna | Nov 13 2008, 03:55 PM Post #24 |
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And that is the worst animal possible? Notice how not civilized human would think of slavery, and how wars are declining in savageness. There are no major powers standing in the way of civilization. Strange how our opinion of ourselves has swung from having a place above nature, to being some sick mistake. We are just a imperfect animal like the rest of them. Other animals hunt for fun, and are wasteful of resources, and would do no better or worse than us with our intellect. For example Frodo is exactly like a human dictator, taking over by force in a bad situation and going to war with the weak. |
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| Yorick | Nov 13 2008, 03:59 PM Post #25 |
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Frodo the Hobbit from Lord of the Rings? |
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| lamna | Nov 13 2008, 04:05 PM Post #26 |
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Frodo the chimp, leader of the Chimps in Gombe. It was the group studied by Jane Goodall. |
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| Carlos | Nov 13 2008, 04:45 PM Post #27 |
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Adveho in me Lucifero
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Lets be honest, all animals are imperfect in a way or another. Take a look at birds; they are always killing their younger brothers (its not a bad idea to follow their example though...) |
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| lamna | Nov 13 2008, 05:01 PM Post #28 |
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Tell me about it, siblings are just annoying. I am just tired of human guilt. Now on Neanderthals, why are they thought to live better with nature? |
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| Carlos | Nov 13 2008, 05:28 PM Post #29 |
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I don't know about that, but I've read a National Geographic magazine in which the cause of the neanderthal's extinction was because of their demand of higher quantities of food than modern humans; this linked their death with the decline of the megafauna |
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| lamna | Nov 13 2008, 07:20 PM Post #30 |
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I think I remember on a documentary hearing that Neanderthal feces showed there diet was 98% meat, which in a changing world would be hard to get. Edit, I have 1000 posts. Yay, I think. Edited by lamna, Nov 13 2008, 07:21 PM.
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