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| Dr Nitwhite | May 14 2016, 02:42 PM Post #1 |
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First things first, this is my first real post on this forum, and a project I have been mulling over for a few months now. I strive for some degree of realism, so comments and critiques are welcomed. Though my time period might be a bit trite, I do hope my creatures and environments are in some way unique. Happy reading! Our story begins a not to far from now, someplace in the early-mid 22nd century. Humanity has continued to plod along, and though they have averted major disaster, problems such as global warming, overpopulation, deforestation, and over-fishing are starting to take their toll on the population. Several world governments have instituted birth control and one-child policies, along with much more severe regulation on greenhouse emissions and other problematic activity. Several of these policies are unpopular with the global population, but are put up with due to the much more obvious environmental issues that have begun to crop up. Also of note, air travel and road-building through jungles have put nearly the entire world population in contact. It was around 2139 when some idiots in a basement bred an invincible "superbug". Though their motives where unclear (it very well may have been an accident), the disease they spawned completely ravaged the global population, eliminating pretty much the entire human race in a few weeks. A few populations of resistant survivors popped up all over the globe, but most went extinct in a few generations. Most of these societies simply couldn't adapt to a natural environment once the last vestiges of civilization started to crumble away under water and vines. The only one that managed to survive long enough was the one on the east coast of North America. There was an inordinate number of resistant humans here, and perhaps just a few of these lucky ones had actual knowledge on how to make it in the woods. Nevertheless, this is the human population that remained, though they never reached the advanced level of the society before them, returning to a paleolithic lifestyle. The Holocene is over, but we are still in the Quaternary. Welcome to horizonicene (until I can accurately translate "horizon" into greek). With humans meddling with the atmosphere, the next few glacial-interglacial periods where severely disrupted, to the point where the first few where cancelled. The next few where "weak" with only small glacial advances and larger retreats. Timely volcanic eruptions continued the process, and it took around 5 million years (approximately, I wanna say, 25-60 cycles? This is the piece of the project that really needs work) for things to reach the previous norm. For most of this 5 million year history, the world was slightly warmer than that of the present day. This has had two major effects over many organisms, a tendency toward smaller body size (with a larger reproductive rate to boot) as well as several tropical species and habitats spreading northward. However, the glacial cycles have begun to return to normal, and the first inklings of a new ice age are starting to appear. The current climate is slightly cooler than that of the present day, but it is the coldest its been in 5 million years. Our focus is on North America, from the Caribbean to Alaska. The reason for this is focusing on one continent is simpler than focusing on a planet, yet I am free to go into minute detail. It also doesn't hurt that I live here, allowing for more detail and accuracy with the several species I create (or even leave alone). The environments these organisms dwell in can also be explored deeper. Speaking of which, here are a few I have come up with, along with a sampling of species that dwell in them. Southwoods- Superficially similar to those of the modern day, southern woodlands and swamps have received a major influx of tropical species. The last human species dwells here as well. Known among themselves as "the song people" these paleolithic peoples are incapable of progressing past their current technological state. A few other notable species: Jorogumo (enormous spider monkeys), Acorn parrotlet, King Deer, Home-Tree. Coniferous Coast- A rather recent development, this mangrove-esque environment extends from Massachusetts down to around where Long Island was. Cold-loving, salt water tolerant conifers grow in the sand and mud much like a mangrove tree, with large and complicated root systems. Notable species: Arboreal crab, Crab Jay, Keel Bird, Seaside Chickadee. Barrier beach/coastal marshes- By far the hardest hit by humanity, these environments where in shambles by the time Humans nearly killed themselves. As such, their resurgence brought some of the strangest new species into being, as many old niches where left open by the extinct varieties. Some of these new organisms include: Beach Turkey, Burltail, Flag Mole Crab, and the twobill family (descendants of the coots, this group has developed a prehensile trunk and adapted to nearly every aquatic habitat). Rocky coast- From Massachusetts upward. Also hit pretty hard by humanity, but not to the extent of the southern coasts. Notable species: Fanged Cormorant, Northern Penguin, Emperor Crab, Pinklips. Boreal/ Boreal Transition Forests- Now extended further south, these forests are noted for the Bumbletoad Network, a system by which various aquatic eggs are transported to new bogs by the Bumbletoad. Notables: Bumbletoad, Bog Tern, Northern Flagfish, Bird Pike. The Clouds- Also a recent development, the ecosystem in the clouds is just starting to develop. Species that live here rarely touch the ground. The basis of the food chain are small flies tat feed of aerial bacteria. These in turn are eaten by Cloud Weavers, which are fed on by other species in their group. Notable species all belong to a new group of Larids, which are descended from terns. They form the bulk of high flying birds. They also don't have a good name yet. All of this is just an overview of the current state of affairs, and I recognize it must seem incredibly vague (especially all those weird species names). Fear not. More in-depth species descriptions, crappy drawings, environmental descriptions, and a more detailed timeline are all in order. Let me know what exactly you wish to see next, as well as advice or criticisms. Content Table Albemarle Albemarle 1 Albemarle 2 Albemarle 3 Albemarle Illustrations 1 Gulf of Saint Lawrence Gulf of Saint Lawrence 1 Georgian Southwoods Georgia Southwoods 1 Georgia Southwoods 2 Edited by Dr Nitwhite, Jul 10 2016, 10:38 AM.
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| Dr Nitwhite | May 22 2016, 04:34 PM Post #16 |
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Thanks, I'll get to it soon. Also- a few edits. Some minor details (ancestry of twobills, appearance of otter coon) have been changed. I'm working on some "drawings", if you can call them that. Edited by Dr Nitwhite, May 27 2016, 09:06 AM.
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| Ebervalius | Jun 1 2016, 03:41 PM Post #17 |
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What a neat project, your creatures are pretty novel. The Song People sound intriguing. Can't wait to see more! |
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| Dr Nitwhite | Jun 1 2016, 03:58 PM Post #18 |
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Thank ye kindly! I will get to the song people eventually, but I'm working on the northern seas as of now. I think I'll talk about them next though. |
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| Dr Nitwhite | Jun 4 2016, 11:31 AM Post #19 |
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Gulf of Saint Lawrence, part 1 Hello and welcome, to the Gulf of Saint Lawrence! Just as Albemarle, NC is our case study for salt marsh and barrier beach habitats, the Gulf of Saint Lawrence is our case study for the rocky coast and open ocean environments. I finally have a table of contents in order, I still need to come up with a proper organizational method (though the current one has been working fine, I guess). Any advice is welcomed. Maritime environments where the hardest hit environments of the Holocene. Many iconic groups, most notably cetaceans, have been driven extinct. Animals heavily fished have taken a turn for the worse as well, with several varieties dead or barely hanging on. Large open water predators, seabirds, and krill have also taken a hit. Coral is gone (though their place has been taken). As a result of this upheaval, deep sea species have taken the place of several open ocean animals. One such example would be the Goblin Shark, which has developed into several coastal, and open ocean roles. It is entirely normal for small ratfish to show up in your tide pools, as well as a few tiny dragonfish species. Hagfish are prevalent throughout the ocean. As with practically every environment on the face of the earth, the past warm period has led to several warm weather species moving further away from the equator. Now that the climate has begun to cool, these new species have been forced to adapt, some going extinct. Notables in this north-shifted group include angelfish, penguins, remora, Mahi-Mahi, and Cobia, which have all successfully diversified in their new homes. King-of-the-north and Energetic Symbionts Whales got big. Then they all died, and a void opened. Basking sharks jumped on the chance, and have diversified into several new species. Several resemble their past form, and a few others have grown to sizes comparable to large baleen whales. But one has surpassed even those, the King-of-the-north. Reaching nearly 200 feet in length, the King-of-the-north (KOTN) is the largest organism to have ever existed. The beast is needless to say, immense, twice the size of modern day Blue Whales. It also has a veritable ecosystem surrounding it. It’s a ram feeder, lunging into bait balls and consuming them often in one go, sometimes taking a few sharks and large fish with them! However, the KOTN simply can not survive on such (comparatively) little prey, especially during algal busts, and has another food source up its sleeve. As with coral, the KOTN has algae growing in its skin, supplying nearby cells and blood vessels with surplus nutrients. In addition to this, several specialized barnacles have developed a “root system”, which extends deep into the fish’s tissues. These varieties started out as parasites, stealing nutrients from the KOTN, and many still exist in this form. Others have exaggerated cirri, and supply the KOTN with surplus nutrients. These species often have defense mechanisms to protect their cirri, including elongated, triangular plates. Not only does this give the cirri some protection, it forms up to a foot long spike that protects the KOTN from marauding predators looking to take a chunk out of the beast’s side. Many of these symbiotic species are also highly toxic. The evolution of these species may seem questionable at first, but one has to look at the ecosystem that surrounds the animal. Several fish and crustaceans are specialist barnacle feeders. Why then would the barnacles give up on a working parasitic system, but also become more vulnerable to predators? Because in becoming helpful to the KOTN in general, animals with beneficial barnacles could live longer and grow larger. And in doing so, they became recognized as part of the KOTN’s body by its bodyguards, who are also keen on having a long-lived, large host. Not only that, but spiked varieties have their own little subset of defenders who live in between them, as several coral species currently do. This secondary line of defense actually has a downside, however. Parasitic barnacles, with smaller external “heads” and smaller root systems, grow in mutualistic growths. Barnacle feeders are forced to hunt these areas, but are often chased of by the defenders, thus protecting not only beneficial species, but parasitic ones as well. More on this “microecosystem” later, as well as other open ocean and rocky coast animals. Apologies if all of my work seems really scattered and disorganized, that will be fixed someday. Until next time. |
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| Beetleboy | Jun 4 2016, 12:47 PM Post #20 |
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Perhaps you could organise the contents into habitats. Like this: Gulf of Saint Lawrence Link number 1 Link number 2 Etc, etc . . . And just repeate that for all of the habitats. That could help to organise it better. |
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| peashyjah | Jun 9 2016, 06:03 PM Post #21 |
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I like this project already so far!! I can't wait for more of this project in the future. Edited by peashyjah, Jun 9 2016, 06:11 PM.
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Discontinued projects: The New Ostracoderms (i might continue with this project again someday) The Americas (where in 58 million years from now in the future North and South America has both become isolated island continents) All Expansions (my attempt at expanding the universe of All Tomorrows by Nemo Ramjet aka C.M. Kosemen, started June 6, 2018) Anthropozoic (my attempt at expanding the universe of Man After Man and also a re-imagining of it, coming 2019 or 2020) New Cenozoica (my attempt at expanding the universe of The New Dinosaurs and also a re-imagining of it, also coming 2019 or 2020) All Alternatives or All Changes (a re-telling of All Tomorrows but with some minor and major "changes", coming June 10, 2018) | |
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| Dr Nitwhite | Jun 11 2016, 11:35 AM Post #22 |
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Albemarle illustrations 1 Apologies for my poor drawing and photography skills. Albemarle illustrations 1 |
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| Dr Nitwhite | Jun 22 2016, 11:11 AM Post #23 |
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The southern states have, along with the rest of the world, been mostly warming over the course of time. Though times have recently seen unprecedented temperature drops, the place is reminiscent of a subtropical paradise, with major influxes of tropical species from the Caribbean and Mexico. Such examples include (this list is subject to change) velvet worms, scorpions, parrots, and spider monkeys. This region is also the home of the last remaining human species. Unwittingly doomed by the oncoming ice age, the Song People are a testament to everything ephemeral. We will start with a brief overview of biology and basic culture. The Song People Known among themselves as the Song People (singular “Singer”), they are the last Human descendants and by far the most specialized. Post-superbug societies in North America were consumed with a Luddite ideology. Over time, these communities have retained sapience but lost all possible chances of being anything other than a paleolithic people. Not because of cultural restrictions, but biological ones. Just like any of countless species the world over, warm climate selected for high metabolisms and high birth-rates. The Singer stands at an average 1.3 meters (4.2 feet) and lives to an average age of 25. A quick metabolism and ever-present diseases and parasites make living past 30 completely unfeasible. Sexual maturity is arrived at around age 10. The Song People, while highly intelligent (on par with modern humans) and intensely curious, their metabolism gives them hardly any time to develop new technology (not to mention a somewhat foreshortened attention span). The average Singer day consists of waking up, hunting/gathering all day (eating along the way, while storing a bit for later), and then around an hour before dark is song time. Song singing and the only mealtime is conducted then, along with tool making. But as soon as night hits, it’s time to sleep. Typical tools include sharpened sticks, small knives and hand axes, mortar and pestle, fur clothing and doorways, and basic fire starting implements. It is likely that the Song People could get along fine without any tools anyway, however. Their noses contain far more olfactory receptors than ours, and their ears are long and pointed. Song People have total control over their ears, and can direct their hearing in a fashion. This makes sound incredibly important to the Song People, and also has the byproduct of making them look like Christmas elves in a way. Until you get to the canines. Oftentimes, a Singer will forgo the use of a spear to kill medium to small sized prey (or even opponents in battle), preferring to wrestle it to the ground and bite the throat. Due to their time spent rushing through thick undergrowth, hair growth is much slower (long hair is much more easily stuck in briers), and the feet develop a thick callus. The oldest individuals have the longest hair, and many cultures highly respect and are often run by “long hairs”. Perfectly adapted to life in the southwoods, the species is certainly doomed to extinction when their lush home becomes fragmented and more arid in the coming ice age. More on culture, predators, prey, and domesticated animals later. Also note that many things are subject to change upon further review or in the light of damning evidence. Until next time! |
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| Dr Nitwhite | Jul 10 2016, 10:36 AM Post #24 |
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Throughout the history of the Great American Interchange, there have always been irregularities, species that move north or south before any of their relatives. Just look at the past, there used to be FRIGGEN TERROR BIRDS running all over Florida, but there was only one (Titanis walleri) and it was unlikely there where too many more. Or the closer past, There was only one North American opossum (Virginia Opossum), but there were oodles more down in South-Central. We now explore how this trend continued to the present day. Snowy Trogon- This northerly species of trogon extends its range throughout the northern boreal forests. Like ptarmigans and hares, they change their plumage from season to season. However, they change to a dark green in summer, though they still become white in winter. (unlike most trogons, the sexes are identical). Their diet consists mainly of pine needles, bark, and insects they find. As such, their feathers and flesh are oily and distasteful (though pleasant smelling), and they have digestive systems similar to hoatzins (leading to an almost pot-bellied look). They perch on the ends of pine branches where you might expect to see snow accumulate. They don’t move much during the day, moving around only in the evening to find mates (in the spring) or to find new branches. Similar to porcupines, they can do massive damage to trees. They are one of three North American Trogons. Northern Piculet- This spritely little species is found all over the eastern North America and are common throughout their range. They are similar in habit to their ancestors (which are still present in South-Central America), but are notable members of mixed-species flocks. The almost perfectly barred bird is black and white all over except for males, who have red foreheads. This is thought to be a method of mimicking Downy Woodpeckers (a species still going strong, and whose juveniles have red foreheads), another common mixed-flock member. The Northern Piculet is notable for feeding the lowest of all the mixed-flock species, on fallen, rotting logs (they rarely feed on rotten tree trunks), and as such takes advantage of Paridae alarm calls (as do several other “satellite species”). However they still participate in mobbing predators and can be incredibly aggressive. There have been records of Northern Piculet killing Seaside Owls, an animal similar in size to, and regular predator of the Northern Piculet. The Northern Piculat is the only North American Piculet. Northern Anhinga- This species is very similar in color to its ancestor, though it is much smaller. They can come into competition with loons in the most northern edges of its range (around southern New York/north New Jersey (new extent of boreal forest)), particularly the Atlantic Loon (descendant of the Common Loon) who breeds in those waters. They largely avoid this on larger bodies of water in being different sizes and thusly feeding on different sizes of fish, although on smaller waters you are likely to see only one species or another. They are one of two North American Anhingas, As always, thanks for reading and more on those briefly mentioned species later! |
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| Dr Nitwhite | Aug 11 2016, 04:43 PM Post #25 |
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A nebulous and sparse update. Some things 1)The backstory is, putting it mildly, ecologically and geologically inaccurate. Expect some major revisions to the background info and possibly timeframe. I intend to use my creative licence as little as possible on this project. 2)It has always been my intention to include Europan life in the Great Song. This will be accessible in the Xeno side of things soon. 3)Now, I don’t want to come off as needy, but any and all feedback is appreciated. Especially constructive criticism. I’m trying to be at least half-way plausible here, and having others raise points I may have never even considered keeps us both on our mental toes. 4)I’ve been quite busy recently, and may continue to be for a few weeks. After that, updates should be more regular. As always, thanks for reading! |
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| Dr Nitwhite | Sep 19 2016, 07:32 PM Post #26 |
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This is dead. Follow me to the other side! The Reboot! Link! Edited by Dr Nitwhite, Sep 19 2016, 07:33 PM.
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