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The Biocene 2.0; Ten million years from now
Topic Started: Mar 17 2016, 06:43 PM (6,292 Views)
number8192	Mar 17 2016, 06:43 PM Post #1
Infant Posts: 86 Group: Members Member #1,891 Joined: Mar 17, 2016	The biocene Global warming did us in, the sixth mass extinction(Really eight if we consider the End Botomian and Dresbachian ones.), desertified the planet's surface, and the oceans were deoxygenated, polluted, and filled with hydrogen sulfide. The rise in temperature, predicted to melt the east antarctic ice sheet by 10 000 years in the future, made the equatorial zone and northern hemisphere basically unlivable, due to the heat moving to, and largely coming from,the north. In the absence of humans, nuclear powerplants went into meltdown. Ocean currents caused radiations to move mostly upwards, making the northern hemisphere a heavily radioactive wasteland. The Yellowstone Supervolcano made North America almost entirely devoid of life. The last days of mankind were spent battling over the last resources, taking out most of all megafauna and freshwater. Scientists and some selected survivors ended up migrating to the subantarctican islands and antarctica, trying to come up with new inventions that could potentially save them,but lack of resources and infrastructure, ultimately, did them in. With a mostly desertified planet where the coast is toxic with hydrogen sulfide, Most of survivors were small xerocoles and generalists. The list of surviving tetrapods(Invertebrates, fungi, fishes, plants and so on are for the majority basically unkillable, evolve faster than tetrapods, and our knowledge on them is lagging behind, so they will not be the focus here, we don't know 90% of the oceans, after all.)had to migrate to Argentina/Chile, South Africa, Australia, Subantarctican islands and Antarctica to survive, with the latter two being only accessible to birds and bats. The list is as follows: Amphibia: Anura(Frogs from the Peruvian desert, African deserts and the Australian desert show frogs can be good xerocoles.) Reptilia: Testudines(Snake necked turtles and crocodile turtle only.) Squamata(Basically unkillable, even the varanoids.) Crocodylia(Dwarf caiman only due to living in semi arid climates, being more terrestrial and nocturnal than other crocodiles, and being small.) Aves: Passeriformes(Basically unkillable, especially crows.) Coliiformes(Adapted to at least the Kalahari desert.) Apodiformes(Swifts and some hummingbirds(Adapted to the Peruvian desert.)will survive.) Musophagiformes(Mostly go away birds and plantain eaters, especially Criniferoides leucogaster.) Caprimulgiformes(A few in south america, africa and australia.) Cuculiformes(Quite a few, genus chalcites especially.) Piciformes(Basically unkillable) Falconiformes(Basically unkillable,both falcons and a few caracaras.) Pelecaniformes(Basically unkillable, ardeidae especially, threskiornitidae as well and the hamerkop.) Otidiformes(A few in africa only.) Charadriiformes(Basically unkillable.) Trogoniformes(Narina trogon only.) Coraciiformes(Bee eaters especially.) Accipitriformes(Basically unkillable.) Gruiformes(Rails only.) Galliformes(Quails especially.) Tinamiformes(Nothuras only.) Podicipediformes(A few in south america, africa and australia.) Cathartiformes(Turkey vulture and black vulture only.) Psittaciformes(Only Australian ones.) Columbiformes(Basically unkillable.) Anseriformes(Basically unkillable.) Phoenicopteriformes(Greater flamingo only.) Strigiformes(Basically unkillable.) Bucerotiformes(A few, african grey hornbill and red billed hornbill most notably.) Pteroclidiformes(Basically unkillable(Nearly all of them.).) Suliformes(Anhinga novaehollandiae and a few cormorants.) Ciconiiformes(African woollyneck and Black stork only.) Aegotheliformes(Australian owlet nightjar only.) Podargiformes(Tawny frogmouth only.) Cariamiformes(All.) Mammalia: Chiroptera(Basically unkillable, though not the fruit eating ones.) Cingulata(Hairy armadillos only.) Macroscelidea(Quite a few.) Dasyuromorphia(Planigales especially.) Carnivora(Basically unkillable, families herpestidae and mustelidae especially, but also some smaller cats, foxes, gennets and some south american skunks.) Monotremata(Short beaked echidna only.) Notoryctemorphia(All.) Primata(Lesser galagos only.) Rodentia(Basically unkillable.) Eulipotyphla(Hedgehogs and shrews(Crocidura only.) in Africa only.) Hyracoidea(Rock hyrax and Bush hyrax only.) Artiodactyla(Dik diks only.) Diprotodontia(Sugar glider only(Sugar gliders can tolerate temperatures up to 40 °C, are omnivorous, and can live in heavily degraded forests.).) Didelphimorphia(A few, Didelphis marsupialis and Didelphis pernigra especially.) Lagomorpha(African hares, plus the european rabbit(in Australia only.).) As the Ice age in 50 000 years emerged, the temperature cooled down to a more acceptable level. Birds and bats flew back to the main continents, mixing up the bird and bat distribution of every continents. 10 millions years in the future, the dominant orders ended up being Squamata(Mostly in the oceans.), Passeriformes(Outcompeting nearly everyone with their intelligence. A bit like we used to.), Rodentia(Filling most grazing roles, but also some aquatic ones with the rakali.)and Carnivora(Taking over most of their former niches.). The future geological shape of the continents has the Americas separated from each other, Europe and Africa colliding, creating a huge desert where the mediterranean sea used to be, the eastern part of Africa separating into its own island, and a huge desert stretching across the sahara, middle east, ex urss, india and mongolia.By that time, rust, erosion, rot and storms, among others, will have reduced our constructions to little more than sediment layers filled with rust, styrofoam, and plutonium among other materials, leaving no trace of our civilisation. The Megafauna is as follows: Sapient octopus:A social octopus that solved the reproductive problem of octopi(For the females, at least.)by having young octopi bring food to materning females, avoiding hunger. This social ability greatly increases their lifespans, but also their intellectual progression with age(Evolving human like intelligence by the time of the biocene.)and the appearance of culture as well. In very little time, they conquer the oceans as humans did the surface before.These are matriarchal animals as their lifestyle only helps the female's lifespan, leaving males to live the same way octopi do today, without culture, and interacting with females only for breeding. They look no different than the giant octopi today. Greater madoqua:Descendant of salt's dik dik, this animal looks like an indricotherium, but no taller than asian elephants, and has the caracteristic even toes of artiodactyla(As well as the fur of it's ancestor.). It is weaker and lighter than an asian elephant, but stronger and heavier than a giraffe. It lost it's horns to time and has a nose resembling indricotherium's own, due to salt's dik dik already having a similar nose. It has thin fur over it's body, much like it's ancestor, and fills the role sauropods, elephants and giraffes used to play before. Pantherinoid:Descendants of domestic cats, These heavily built cats replace the niche of smilodons, and completely dominate the arctic as apex predators. Their shape is similar to a smilodon's, but with tiger like canines and much bigger and stronger molars for bone crushing. They fear no one in the arctic and rivalise with other apex predators elsewhere. Great rakali:Descendants of the rakali, these beaver like rodents replace the role of seals and otters before them. These animals, though entirely carnivorous, are little more than prey for the megalodonoids and pteronuroids, but dominate arctic and antarctic oceans nonetheless with pteronuroids. Their sizes are similar to the seals before them, and they look like giant beavers with more webbings on their hands and feets. Hydrochoeroid:These hippo sized rodents resemble josephoartigasia monesi, but with bigger molars more adapted for grazing. They descend from various groundhog like rodents all around the world and overtook grazing niches like artiodactyla before them, with greater madoqua being the only other notable megafaunal grazer. They use their incisors for defense the same way a hippo would with it's tusks, and can deliver a powerful bite. Greater notomys:Descendants of hopping mices(Tarkawara, more precisely.), these fill the niche macropodidae leaves behind, and largely look like them. Just like hydrochoeroid, they fill the grazer niches were they live. They use their hands to use simple tools. Purussauroid:Descendants of the dwarf caiman, these purussaurus like caimans are 10 m long and are the biggest tetrapodal animals of their time. Sharing the armored underbelly of their ancestors, these crocodylians dominate the Americas and surrounding seas. Megalanoid:The lack of crocodiles left varanoids to fill their old niche outside the new world. Reaching no longer than 7 m, these semi aquatic megalania look alikes lack the powerful bites of crocodylians, but have a venom that makes up for it. They are considerably more social than their ancestors, as well as more intelligent(Especially descendants of rock monitors.).Some megalanoids develop more webbings on their hands and feets than others, and are slowly developping ovoviviparity over time, foreshadowing their eventual evolution into the mosasauroid(A mosasaur like lizard.).But for now, sharks dominate the oceans unopposed. Phorusrhacidoid:Descendants of many birds around the world(Like seriemas, caracaras, ibises, bustards, hornbills, flamingos and storks.)adopted large, flightless forms not unlike phorusrhacidae, due to the lack of predators compared to before(A phenomenon seen on many island birds today.). These are descended from ravens, and the top endurace hunters of their time. Unlike terror birds, phorusrhacidoids have smaller, thicker beaks, shorter necks, opposable thumbs on their feets, bigger brains and are no taller than 1.80 m. Their superior intellect allowed them to outcompete similar birds who could have otherwise filled the niche where they are. With working opposable thumbs on their feets, complex language, tool use, tribal organisation, incredible intelligence, endurance hunting, bipedality and sight and hearing as their primary senses, the future looks incredibly promising for these birds. Dark raven:These 5 m long in wingspan ravens are completely black in color except for their red eyes.These nocturnal, intelligent birds are both predator and scavenger, and use their feathers as camouflage in the night sky. Giant hyrax:Just like artiodactyla, perissodactyla, diprotodontia and proboscidea share the megafaunal grazing niches today,so will the candidates for top grazers in the future. The giant hyrax is a sheep sized hyrax and occupies mountaintops hydrochoeroid rarely frequent. Creodontoid:Pale fox, fennec fox and ruppel's fox are the last remaining canidaes in the world after the holocene's extinction. Their descendant is shaped like a dire wolf with a pitbull's stout physique as well as a bigger snout. Creodontoids fill most of the former carnivoran niches. Giant spiny mouse:With porcupines dead, mices of the genus acomys(Or spiny mices.)were free to fill the niche unopposed. They are sheep sized porcupine like rodents with scaly tails and shorter quills. They are nocturnal to avoid phorusrhacidoids, and are virtually unopposed by any other predatorial animals thanks to their protection, not unlike today's giant porcupine in Africa. Titanophis:An almost entirely aquatic snake, titanophis is 10 m long(2.8 m less than titanoboa.)and goes only on land to lay eggs and occasionally snatch prey.It is slowly becoming ovoviviparous in response to it's environment, not unlike sea snakes, but 10 million years isn't long enough for the change. Giant jerboa:Kangaroo like descendants of lesser egyptian jerboas, these jerboas fill the role of gazels in savannahs, and small camels in the desert, being lighter of foot than the hydrochoeroid, and not as energivore. They are smaller than greater notomys, as well as having bigger ears and eyes. Chelodinoid:These 3m long turtles with snake like necks hide in the earth underwater, snatching any prey over them by unearthing their head and attacking with a snake like motion to bite their prey, which they bring under the ground afterward. They are descended from chelodina, a genus of snake necked turtles from australia who are fully xerocole(In at least 3 cases.)and look like bigger versions of them. Pteronuroid:Descendants of the long tailed weasel, the least weasel and the egyptian weasel proved adapted to the water and took to it a bit like otters before them. These dominate the polar areas as leopard seals and polar bears did before them. Despite convergent evolution with otters, these are solitary animals except for the females with they're kids. Equatorial zones are inhabited too, causing fierce rivalries with megalanoids and titanophises. Thanks to lack of competition in either poles, and unlike otters, pteronuroids are able to measure 3.m long and look like relatively elongated sarkastodons with slightly bigger tails. Of the two, great rakalis evolved first, as rakalis are more aquatic than weasels, resulting in the descendants of rakalis reaching bigger sizes before pteronuroids could compete with them. Sapient crows:Even more intelligent than phorusrhacidoids and dark ravens, these crows have reached human intelligence. As big as eagles, these crows make elaborate nests as complex as Paleolithic huts for their eggs, and make fires during the winter. Megalodonoid:14 m long shark. In the absence of any competition(At least from tetrapods outside titanophis.),this shark rules the oceans as dunkleosteus terrelli(Among many others.)did before, with even sapient octopi avoiding them. Giant galago:With no monkeys, galagos were left to take over the arboreal monkey niche unopposed, growing in size in the process. Unlike monkeys, galagos could venture on the ground like kangaroos, making them less vulnerable to deforestation. Their hands could be used for more complex tool use than greater notomys and giant jerboas. Neoparrot:Descended from Australian parrots, These eagle sized birds developped human intelligence by changing situations demanding them to come up with solutions(A bit like what happened with humans.). Similar to sapient crows, but more terrestrial and live in smaller numbers in comparison. As for the microfauna of the future, it will largely look like the survivors of the extinction themselves. The extinction will have largely affected their evolution as such: More terrestrial habits for climbing animals(Gennets, sugar gliders, galagos, etc...) and swimming animals(Frogs, turtles, crocodiles, etc...). Smaller sizes than was available during the holocene(Flamingos, crocodiles, storks, etc...). More omnivorous habits for fruit eating animals(Turacos, galagos, parrots, etc...). Less dependence on aquatic animals(Pelecaniformes, podicipediformes, suliformes, etc...). As for land invertebrates, more or less the same rules as for the rest of the fauna follows. If it's either a jungle specialist or a freshwater specialist it won't survive the extinction unless it adapts. Mollusks and arthropods have the advantage of small size, at least some resistance to radiations, the fact that overhunting is nothing to them, the fact that some of those directly benefit from pollution, the fact that(At least arthropods.) they tend to evolve faster than tetrapods(Which means even jungle and freshwater specialists have a chance to survive.), the fact that some can survive even within the salt deserts(Brine flies.) or even antarctica as pure terrestrial residents(Belgica antarctica.), domination of the surface(Insects.) as well as the fact that the northern hemisphere would still be inhabitable for them on top of the whole equatorial zone. Ocean life would have to endure anoxic events, like previous mass extinctions(Though it is almost impossible that the extinction will be as bad as the permian.), so anything that can survive that would survive the extinction, like fishes, cnidarians(who are even benefitting of this extinction.), crustaceans and mollusks, amongst many others, did before(Bottom dwellers would have a slightly easier time, but pelagic and coastal animals will be deeply affected, and megafaunas tend not to survive such events, even as bottom dwellers.). Edited by number8192, Jul 8 2017, 07:56 PM.



flashman63	Mar 17 2016, 09:27 PM Post #2
The Herr From Terre Posts: 988 Group: Members Member #758 Joined: May 17, 2012 Nationality: American	Really interesting. I dig how you incorporated the failure of nuclear plants into it- few seem to take that into account. Interested to see what ideas you ultimately come up with. Though your formatting could DEFINITELY use a bit of work.
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Mr Mysterio	Mar 18 2016, 12:16 AM Post #3
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Jasonguppy	Mar 18 2016, 01:08 PM Post #4
Cardinal Posts: 2,644 Group: Members Member #405 Joined: Oct 5, 2010 Gender: Male Nationality: USA Also known as: Jay, 189birds Gender: Gender? I hardly know her! (They/Them pronouns)	Where do the thumbs on the phorusracoids come from?
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number8192	Mar 18 2016, 01:15 PM Post #5
Infant Posts: 86 Group: Members Member #1,891 Joined: Mar 17, 2016	At the same place they would be on a raven, Jasonguppy. Edited by number8192, Mar 19 2016, 06:10 AM.



CaledonianWarrior96	Mar 18 2016, 01:22 PM Post #6
An Awesome Reptile Posts: 2,383 Group: Members Member #1,642 Joined: Feb 22, 2015 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Future Evolution Nationality: Scottish (Not british) Favorite Quote: "Life's too short to take it seriously" - Me Also known as: SlothWarrior	I think you can come up with better names for some of these creatures. Taking the name of a species that already existed and adding 'neo' is sort of lazy
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number8192	Mar 18 2016, 01:25 PM Post #7
Infant Posts: 86 Group: Members Member #1,891 Joined: Mar 17, 2016	I was focusing more on biological accuracy than originality. But yeah i could have done a better job with the names, CaledonianWarrior96(A lot of my animal names had neo in them before i edited them.). Edited by number8192, Mar 21 2016, 08:00 AM.



Dragonthunders	Mar 18 2016, 01:26 PM Post #8
The ethereal archosaur in blue Posts: 3,039 Group: Global Mods Member #690 Joined: Jan 22, 2012 Gender: Male Nationality: Salvadoran Favorite Quote: "There is only one war that can afford the human being: the war against their extinction" Isaac Asimov Also known as: DT, thunders Gender: still male	The thing is, why do thumbs appear? Anatomically speaking, the birds hands would not be able to evolve functional fingers, less opposable thumbs, are too atrophied, besides specialized. Quote: I was focusing more on biological accuracy than originality. Then you have to fix some things in your creatures and many of those concepts, because those seem too cliche and unrealistic, if you allow, I can tell which are and we can improve it.
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number8192	Mar 18 2016, 01:30 PM Post #9
Infant Posts: 86 Group: Members Member #1,891 Joined: Mar 17, 2016	By were they would be on a raven, i meant on its feets. Bird arms can only evolve wings, stumps or fins. Edited by number8192, Mar 19 2016, 06:16 AM.



Jasonguppy	Mar 18 2016, 01:32 PM Post #10
Cardinal Posts: 2,644 Group: Members Member #405 Joined: Oct 5, 2010 Gender: Male Nationality: USA Also known as: Jay, 189birds Gender: Gender? I hardly know her! (They/Them pronouns)	I think you can solve a lot of these problems in 'creativity' and in accuracy by focusing on one group at a time rather than rushing through lots and lots of groups without much forethought.
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number8192	Mar 18 2016, 01:49 PM Post #11
Infant Posts: 86 Group: Members Member #1,891 Joined: Mar 17, 2016	Which ones are unrealistic, dragonthunders(No, really, which?)? Edited by number8192, Mar 21 2016, 02:23 PM.



GlarnBoudin	Mar 18 2016, 01:52 PM Post #12
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number8192	Mar 18 2016, 02:32 PM Post #13
Infant Posts: 86 Group: Members Member #1,891 Joined: Mar 17, 2016	I fleshed out some of the descriptions, changed some names, corrected some grammar(I think.), and changed the title in light of all the edits i just did. Edited by number8192, Mar 21 2016, 06:43 AM.



Dragonthunders	Mar 18 2016, 04:42 PM Post #14
The ethereal archosaur in blue Posts: 3,039 Group: Global Mods Member #690 Joined: Jan 22, 2012 Gender: Male Nationality: Salvadoran Favorite Quote: "There is only one war that can afford the human being: the war against their extinction" Isaac Asimov Also known as: DT, thunders Gender: still male	Quote: Which ones are unrealistic,dragonthunders? Well, many of them. just to start: Quote: Europe and Africa colliding,creating a mountain range where the mediterranean sea used to be In reality the vast mountain range is anticipated that will appear in 50 million years later, so 10 million years in the future, the Mediterranean would be still a huge extension of the sahara. Besides that, in a span of 10 million years you will meet many limitations because it is a period of fairly short time, so after a mass extinction of large magnitude will mean that certain types of animals will be resigned to master certain specific niches. Something like the "Neocapybara" and the "Pantherinoid" sound likely, are just larger versions of their ancestors who have taken advantage of the vacant niches, but something like the "Mosasauroid" take a bit longer to evolve, only in 10 million years we maybe see the first aquatic forms of a shorter length taking the ocean, with a few million (like 15 oe 20 million years) years more they would already occupying the predatory niche in the oceans. Quote: Their superior intellect allowed them to outcompete similar birds who could have otherwise filled the niche where they are. I do not think many birds will have the need to compete in that niche, it is a total loss of the biggest advantage of the birds that have so far, flight, it would be more specialization that competition (which means that this group of birds took advantage of the situation) Quote: With the phorusrhacidoids taking over the diurnal endurance hunters niches,creodontoids filled most of the nocturnal,ambush,scavenging and nocturnal endurance hunter niches,as well as any predatorial arctic niches pantherinoid didn't filled. Quote: They are nocturnal to avoid phorusrhacidoids,and are virtually unopposed by any other predatorial animals thanks to their protection. Competition that can offer the birds really would not be any impediment to the emergence of diurnal mammals, we have for example in South America, the terror birds not interfere with most of the mammalian fauna that inhabited those regions. Quote: Anthropoid regina:Talapoin descendants.As the Holocene extinction kept worsening,food became scarcer.The two talapoin species were forced to migrate to South Africa,where they interbred to make up for their losses.The rarity of food meant that young talapoins survived better than adults,leading to teenage talapoins reproducing before adulthood,leading to neoteny.The neoteny,in turn,made them more intelligent through prolonged young age,made them less hairy(Better suited for hot environments.),and gave them bigger eyes(Better for a nocturnal lifestyle.).As trees became fewer,talapoins were more forced to live on the ground,something they already do adequately,and though figs and uapaca plums were still available,they ended becoming less frugivorous.By 10 million years,talapoin intelligence reached human levels thanks to the neoteny.Being less aggressive than the average monkey,anthropoid regina society looks more like bonobo society than normal monkey society. Honestly that does not seem likely to happen in any kind of future event, unlike other types of primate, they seem to specialize in it's niche, they are not as extensive as any other primate. A mass extinction would not give them enough time to survive and less to give reproductive choices, they would died after all. Also, there are two things you should consider: 1) that isn't neoteny, that is progenesis (sexual development occurs faster making the youth develop sexual maturity) 2)Neoteny not result in hair loss or increased intelligence, that just causes adult forms acquire the traits of the young forms. Quote: Neoparrot:Descended from Australian parrots,These marabou stork sized birds developped human intelligence too.Similar to sapient crows,but more terrestrial live in smaller numbers in comparison. How and why? These are two questions that you should do before launching a random creature, because organisms appear not just because, they are the result of the events and circumstances that the world makes, and that in turn affects other living beings. You've done nothing more a parrot with the size of a stork. Quote: I fleshed out some of the descriptions and corrected some grammar(I think.). You must separate where are the punctuation marks.
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number8192	Mar 18 2016, 05:09 PM Post #15
Infant Posts: 86 Group: Members Member #1,891 Joined: Mar 17, 2016	Thank you so much Dragonthunders! I'll correct right away(I edit my older posts, look them up.).My goal is to make the most likely future, and i need peer review for that. The mosasauroids were one i wasn't sure about. I imagine they would look more like megalanoid than mosasaurs by 10 myf. A few ravens could simply specialise like that,creating phorusrhacidoid, while most ravens wouldn't(If not,other candidates would be caracaras, bustards, hornbills and seriemas.). Gabon talapoins are specialised, i admit, but angolan talapoins don't seem to(Then again, we know very little about them.). You're probably right, though. I just assumed neoteny did that because it did so in humans. But as you said, neoteny doesn't work that way. Really looking forward to your comments(Consider this project to be a collective effort of this entire forum. I wanted it to be so, anyway.). Edited by number8192, Mar 20 2016, 05:29 PM.



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