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Gross People; From a dream to your screen
Topic Started: Mar 2 2016, 05:15 PM (1,390 Views)
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Based on this post by Mr Mysterio. Whilst the writing is mine, the crux is his; he sowed the seed, I merely pissed on it and saw what grew. As such, ideas expressed here beyond Mysterio's post are my own interpretations of his concept.


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Any criticism of the writing style is appreciated. I chose mainly formal texts here because of a lack of experience writing informally. I will be happy to answer any questions people have.
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I keep picturing a brain in a jar.

Ooo, better idea! Hollywood's interpretation of the condition! I could see a horror flick coming out with the killer having it, and a massive backlash for making stuff up and making people afraid of Detached.
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Sorta like how Hollywood likes to make mental patients be the horror villains a lot of the time.
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In regards to the brain situation, I imagine it would theoretically work, though I'd hate to think how that would even begin to affect their psyche.
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Mar 13 2016, 06:53 PM
Sorta like how Hollywood likes to make mental patients be the horror villains a lot of the time.
I feel that there would be a lot of outrage about this as an issue. Much like how people with schizophrenia are treated because of their disability, it would severely affect people with the Großmann condition and their treatment in society. I'd like to think that by the modern era we'd have some degree of understanding and compassion for them, but initial treatment would result in stigmatisation that would be hard to remove.

I've been thinking more into the additional brain conundrum, and reached a bit of a wall. Basically, would the inclusion of another person's brain give you their thoughts and personality- which would end up with either two people fighting for control over a body or someone with literal voices in their head- or would it simply give you extra space for doing thinking stuff?

On another note with the eldritch form thing, I feel that it's important to note that it is not the presence of the condition that enables these things to form due to being able to replace parts- rather, the pain reduction and general trend towards people being more tolerable of physicla harm allows them to survive the process.

I'm currently playing with the idea of a story based on an individual who is called 'the janitor'- basically, their job is to clean up crime scenes and to redirect forensic teams onto false leads and the like. This is done through an understanding of forensics (nothing perfect, but a reasonable amount to not be incompetent). They would be dealing with a criminal who has the condition, and is putting their community in a bad light. Perhaps the protagonist is aided by a member of the Akephaloi?
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Are their radical Akephaloi in war torn regions of Southeast Asia?
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Mar 14 2016, 03:32 PM
Are their radical Akephaloi in war torn regions of Southeast Asia?
Not really, as the Akephaloi are generally a European group. There are still groups that would be considered radical within Asia, but these groups are small and spread out, whilst the Akephaloi is larger and more united. Even within Asia, these radical groups are found in the not war torn areas as well. The radical treatment of them results in radical ideology as they look to those willing to protect them and support them.
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Maybe I'm just not understanding the OP properly, but if this is basically just a healing factor, why are they so stigmatised? Does the healing of gross men leave scars, or lead to limbs attached in ways that look "wrong"?
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It's not just a healing factor. They can retain control of chunks of the body that may be hanging on with just a few shreds of sinew.
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Mar 14 2016, 05:20 PM
Maybe I'm just not understanding the OP properly, but if this is basically just a healing factor, why are they so stigmatised? Does the healing of gross men leave scars, or lead to limbs attached in ways that look "wrong"?
The healing can look rather horrific, as the body is basically going into overdrive to heal the body. As trex said, it also enables users to control their flesh that is separated- without much control, this can look quite gory and even with control it looks unsettling. The way that the inital stories were portrayed in the media and in films also didn't help the condition- for example, people who hear voices are seen as insane and likely to be psychopathic, whilst in reality its just a mental condition that needs treatment and understanding.

There is the view that you sort of alluded to though- that the condition isn't bad, and could arguably be seen as beneficial. These individuals aren't exactly too vocal about it though, because it's basically saying that it's good to have a physiological disorder. Research would likely be done in regards to the healing aspect, but I imagine this wouldn't be distributed if it couldn't be isolated from the rest of the condition, or if the proteins/hormones that caused the healing factor also caused adverse effects unless someone had the entire condition. People would likely choose against this due to the general distrust of genetic modification of humans.
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Personally, in regards to the brain thing, I'd see it as a mixture of the two things.
The only way for the eldritch brain guy to take people's brains is, naturally, to kill people, or have someone kill them for him. That, or I suppose he could also just as easily raid a morgue.
The point is, the brains or bits of brains would be those of dead people (preferably, recently deceased), so when the new brains/lobes would be "installed", the thoughts and memories that were previously there would be more-or-less gone. Essentially, they'd be blank slates.
The smaller brain pieces would most likely just act as additional headspace, so to speak. They'd do whatever they did before, though most likely with a lot of faults and issues.
The full brains would act the same way, at first, and then maybe, over time, they'd start to behave like other personalities. Maybe some of their old memories would resurface, or maybe they'd just become self-aware.
The result would look and act less like multiple personality disorder or a hive-mind, and more like a gibbering civil war for control.
In multiple personality disorder, the "alters" tend to take control over the whole body for a period of time. In a typical hive-mind, all the individuals work together in the pursuit of one specific goal.
This would be much different, with numerous brains all fighting for control at the exact same time.
In short, someone doing something this messed up is gonna most likely get messed up and most likely die in a super-freakin-bad way.
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Mar 14 2016, 06:23 PM
In short, someone doing something this messed up is gonna most likely get messed up and most likely die in a super-freakin-bad way.
I love the way that could work out. It kind of sort of reminds me of Legion from X-Men.
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Something that would be more plausible and interesting IMO is just that different parts of the brain = different effects... Something like plugging in one of the sensory lobes = having enhanced sensoric abilities, or plugging in the memory space of the brain = that person's memories being carried to the receiver etc.
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True. Still likely to cause horrible brain-death, though.
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On the topic of ableism and movie murderers, tumblr linked me to a nice little article that may make for an interesting read: http://depts.washington.edu/mhreport/facts_violence.php
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I found out that this is a (fake) thing today. It would definitely be interesting to see if such technology could be constructed due to Großmann research or implemented into the Großmann condition.
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