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Art Critique; Posting some art for constructive criticism
Topic Started: Feb 28 2016, 03:16 PM (930 Views)
Strigiforma
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Posting art for constructive criticism, if you think it's bad or just don't like it; tell me how to improve (my reasoning for this is in the spoiler.)
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Things I already know:
The robin's wing might have too many feathers
Robin's tail is a little oddly shaped
Cardinal is possibly too fluffy around the sides (the bit which overlaps the wing)
so anything else you could suggest would be great!
Edited by Strigiforma, Feb 29 2016, 05:49 PM.

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I think the eyes need to be bigger, same with the robin above. I also second the thing with the wings, but honestly wings are terribly hard to draw, almost as bad as hands.
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I mostly combined references, I don't like to base work off one image, so maybe it's just a problem from trying to incorporate too many different things?
Ah well, I'll keep practicing!
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I mostly combined references, I don't like to base work off one image, so maybe it's just a problem from trying to incorporate too many different things?
Ah well, I'll keep practicing!
Quite possibly. As Flisch said, wings are hard to get right. Maybe you could try putting the images together on a programme, or sketching out the skeleton of the bird before drawing the outside, so that you can figure out if it all makes sense?
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Alas, free programs have their downfalls,
I had a solid skeleton that looked right when flipped in all directions, maybe it's just the colouring ;-;
Looking at more references, I think it's wing was supposed to be more curled over?
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I think the main problem is that the shading makes it look like the wing goes in a straight line from the shoulder to the tip, while actually there is a curve where the "arm bones" are. It's less of an anatomical thing and more something with shading. I honestly don't know how to do it though.

An idea would be to do the highlights on the "arm" part as strokes across the wing, rather than along with it. But yeah, I'm just spitballing here. Perspective in shading, especially with things that reach towards the viewer are something I'm struggling with myself.
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Coracias caudatus

Happy with how it came out, but I'm also kinda avoiding googling the species because of reasons. I like it as a picture, not sure how much I like it compared to the actual bird... anyhow I've chucked it on redbubble because I'm shallow and like money
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Going back the hummingbird, I'm also curious about the eyes. As a rule of thumb, based on some quick searches, hummingbirds seem to have very dark, almost entirely black looking eyes. Was the dull yellow color around the outside based on any particular reference image? I also agree they're a little small.

Of course, these are very minor details, and it's really the best I could find.
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Going back the hummingbird, I'm also curious about the eyes. As a rule of thumb, based on some quick searches, hummingbirds seem to have very dark, almost entirely black looking eyes. Was the dull yellow color around the outside based on any particular reference image? I also agree they're a little small.

Of course, these are very minor details, and it's really the best I could find.
On a couple of the reference images I used, I seemed to think that they had a bit of an iris although I must say they're not as defined as the one I've drawn
I just need to use more references and less "artistic licence" when I art. I may have been taught to spend 3/4 of my art time staring and observing the subject but I didn't like that teacher so his teachings kinda went out of the window.
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