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Feathernazis; a rant
Topic Started: Feb 7 2016, 05:22 PM (2,372 Views)
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(Warning: Enormous amounts of pent-up butthurt and rage are contained below. Also, when the mini-essay mentions "you all" or "you people," it refers to the feathernazi community in general)

You know what sucks?

The fact that according to you guys, anything that has non-feathered dinosaurs is made by 'awesomebros' or 'feather haters' and is totally worthless. Because how DARE anyone create a likeness of a creature that's been extinct for millions of years and take artistic liberties with it.

As a response, you featherfans have come up with... nothing. Nothing in #buildabetterfaketheropod could hold a candle to the I-rex; not a single creature could have even played the same role it did, let alone 'improve' Jurassic World. A powerful message about how man's hurried, slipshod attempts to play God without considering the consequences only results in monstrous vestiges of the natural world's ancient majesty? Pffft! Who needs that message, which is becoming increasingly rare in this day and age? Every single dinosaur in Jurassic World NEEDS to have feathers, dammit! Otherwise, nobody will know that dinosaurs had them, even though most dinosaur books published these days depict them with such integuement!

I've looked far and wide for any trace of these 'awesomebros' you speak of-surely, they must be an ever-present scourge to inspire such hatred! You know what I found? Jack. Shit. Ark's fans are actually pretty chill about accuracy-hell, a feathered Yutyrannus is one of the biggest fan requests! The biggest, baddest creature in the game is a feathered dinosaur, for Christ's sake! The devs have already explained-very politely, might I add-why they aren't adding feathers: the story for the game wouldn't really make sense if the creatures looked exactly like the way their ancestors did. Even Jurassic World has some feathered dinosaurs now!

But you know what I did find? Page after page of shit-talking... from you assholes.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/346110/discussions/0/523890681424768021/
http://steamcommunity.com/app/346110/discussions/0/490125737466159874/
http://steamcommunity.com/app/346110/discussions/0/481115363855241626/
http://steamcommunity.com/app/346110/discussions/0/405690850604928755/
http://steamcommunity.com/app/346110/discussions/0/481115363855511763/

And that's just with the Ark forums! I've seen everything from a tumblr group called Ark-hate (Now taken down) to this asshole:
http://titanlizard.deviantart.com/art/Trolling-with-fanboys-547401232
http://titanlizard.deviantart.com/art/Meme-time-Primeval-Giganotosaurus-552280951
(He also put up a death threat on Facebook to anyone who likes 'generic scaled dinosaurs,' as he put it. Because how dare people have an opinion.)
I confronted him about it, but he basically put his hands over his ears while singing loudly, blocked me, and started a smear campaign against me, calling me 'the most hated person in the paleo community.'

Than there's Paleo-fail, a tumblr blog run by someone who clearly has a very large stick permanently wedged up his/her anus, because he/she nitpicks fucking EVERYTHING. Warhammer dinosaurs, old Chinese rubber dinos, everything. Oddly enough, though, I've suggested several pieces of 'art' to him/her featuring horrific feathered dinosaurs, but they never even get acknowledged. OH, GEE, I WONDER WHY?

Oh, you want more? I've got quite the examples of hypocrisy under my belt.
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Then there are the games and films you people creamed yourselves over because fethurz. Let's see now: The Isle's refused to pay their texture artist and fired her when she asked why, comparing her to a bloodsucking flea, The Stomping Land took everyone's money and ran, Saurian's dev team is made up of elitist asshats, and Dinosaur Island's feathered T-rex, the animal that you claimed 'we DESERVED', was a technicolor nightmare that did nothing significant except fail to eat an ear-gratingly annoying brat. Yeah, and you say that inaccurate games are bad. At least Ark's team isn't an endless bouquet of dicks.

My conclusion to all of this: there is no such thing as an 'awesomebro' and there never was-it's a strawman you people made up as an excuse to keep on bitching about how you're so 'oppressed' when you were clearly the ones doing the oppressing. You keep looking for fanboys when the biggest ones were looking at you in the mirror. The 'war' between scaled and feathered dinosaur fans never happened-it was just you assholes bashing anyone who disagreed with you.

This whole stupid thing needs to stop. Who cares if a dinosaur has feathers or not? A dinosaur is awesome whether or not it has integument. Does a Triceratops need quills on its butt to stab a T-rex? Hell no! A non-feathered T-rex is just as deadly as a feathered one, and a feathered Deinonychus is just as effective a predator as a scaled one.

But don't take my word for it; take it from someone who's far more eloquent than me:
http://feralstormraptor.deviantart.com/journal/Paleoart-and-Constructive-Criticism-561014005
http://feralstormraptor.deviantart.com/journal/ARK-isn-t-a-problem-562466561
http://feralstormraptor.deviantart.com/journal/Alright-my-ultimate-2-cents-566812884
http://feralstormraptor.deviantart.com/art/Breaking-out-from-my-society-sweet-relief-589273423
http://feralstormraptor.deviantart.com/art/It-s-sad-but-true-575266933
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Man, look at this furless bear!

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Doesn't it look so cool? Doesn't it look so powerful? Doesn't it look like it could function just the same as a fully-furred bear? Doesn't it look like a healthy individual that could go on to foster many children that look like it?

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Hey GlarnBoudin, if you have problems with extremists it is fine, but do not come to plague the forum with the stupid hate about this kids fight.
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That's actually something I should have covered a bit more. The thing is, we're never going to know what dinosaurs really looked like. People are allowed to take creative liberties with them. Your attitude to this, Kamineigh, is summed up by this quote:
"Because apparently it's so wrong of a crime to like Jurassic World, ARK, and other inaccurate dinosaur mediums.
Because apparently EVERYTHING about or involving Dinosaurs has to be made in the name of the almighty god known as "science".
Because I'm apparently too much of a "Stupid, ignorant awesomebro"."
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I like to draw naked animals because I suck at drawing fur and plumage.

Aside from that, I skimmed through that rant. I loved it. 10/10, would skim again.
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Feb 7 2016, 06:14 PM
Because I'm apparently too much of a "Stupid, ignorant awesomebro"."
Only two of those words are correct.

Awesomebro is the wrong one. I would call you a 'disgusting skin fetishist'.
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I'll make a shorter, more coherent point, addressed to SS-Federkopfverbände. Fluffy dinosaurs are neat, and it's fun to play around. But remember, we have excellent skin impressions and preserved skin showing that not all dinosaurs were covered in feathers or quills. There was a reason people assumed that dinosaurs had scaly skin, it was all the scaly dinosaur skin that convinced us. Don't just slap feathers on everything, look carefully at what integument we have for an animal, or for its relatives.

And now on to GlarnBoudin. Jurassic World was trash. Mostly because it was a bad film, but the animals were awful. They looked and behaved worse than they did in Jurassic Park, and that was a film made two decades earlier.

Awsomebro, while not a a label anyone would accept, is certainly a real thing. Take a look at wildlife photography and art. While exciting behaviour is obviously popular, for every picture of a lions hunting or fighting there are plenty of lions eating, sleeping, mating, being stupid, etc. Paleoart is massively skewed towards "cool" stuff, which detracts from them being complex animals and turns them into monsters. Same goes for life appearance.
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Feb 7 2016, 06:19 PM
But remember, we have excellent skin impressions and preserved skin showing that not all dinosaurs were covered in feathers or quills. There was a reason people assumed that dinosaurs had scaly skin, it was all the scaly dinosaur skin that convinced us.
Skin impressions made by dead, rotting animals from a stage where the feathers had decayed enough for the skin to imprint into the mud.
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lamna
Feb 7 2016, 06:19 PM
But remember, we have excellent skin impressions and preserved skin showing that not all dinosaurs were covered in feathers or quills. There was a reason people assumed that dinosaurs had scaly skin, it was all the scaly dinosaur skin that convinced us.
Skin impressions made by dead, rotting animals from a stage where the feathers had decayed enough for the skin to imprint into the mud.
I hope you're just being silly, but birds don't have scales under their feathers.

This is from a titanosaur embryo. It never even hatched, covered in scales.
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