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Future Earth: 10 to 50 million years later; Overhall of the Noagene, Akupantagene and of the Lemozoit
Topic Started: Jan 22 2016, 02:38 PM (2,900 Views)
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Hey guys!
It's my first time that I'm on the speculative evolution forum and I wanted to start a new thread!
I am now starting a series called "Future earth"... well of course there are more things like what I am doing right now but I wanted to start my own one. If I accidentally copied someone else I apologies.
I will indeed stage this series much like in TFIW (The Future Is Wild): 10myl, 50myl, 100myl, 150myl, 200myl and finally 300myl (myl means million years later). I hope you enjoy and please... no flames cause I'm just starting.

So are you ready to see how the world would evolve in my opinion? Good, then what are we waiting for? Let's start!

Future Earth: 10 million years later

Overhall:

The continental plates are in constant move so I'm first gonna talk about the continents:

Africa obviously rams into Europe, closing the Mediterranean sea. This sea starts to dry into a salt plain as the Atlas mountains continue to rise: they spread into Spain and "fuse" with the Pyrenees. The Bering sea shrinks to a strait making America and Siberia extremely close together but not attached. Australia moves north and causes the formation of "Burmia": a sub-continent formed by the Celebes, Borneo and the Philippines. Eastern Africa splits from the rest of Africa and is on it's way to India (I'll call this sub-continent Galeon). Arabia hits Iran, widening the Red Sea and expanding the Iranian Plateau. South America splits from North America, connecting the Atlantic to the Pacific Ocean while Antarctica moves north to South America. A fault line is created in the northern part of Europe splitting Scandinavia from Russia. Great Britain moves north and closer to Scandinavia. Ocean currents change and delivers temperate and warm water all around the world. The world is still warming but sea level is almost intact (the area which was once known as Senegal is flooded and southern part of Mexico is underwater). Sumatra collides with Indochina while Java moves north to Burmia. Papua rejoins Australia creating Papaustralia. Anatolia and The Balkans collide, closing the Black Sea. Greenland starts to move south as well as Iceland.


Animals don't change that much but some have evolved some special abilities:

-Due to the Sahara transforming into a Rain Forest, O2 level increases ans so does the insects and arachnids.
-Cockroaches are able to fly while wasps evolve more ant like behaviors.
-Iguanas become more aquatic which can lead to the recreation of the Plesiosaurs but from a different species.
-Monitor Lizards become omnivorous.
-Birds diversify.
-Jellyfishes become bigger especially those from the Physaliidae family.

This period marks the beginning of the Noagene.

I hope you liked it. Again I'm new here so please don't flame.
Thanks for taking a look at this!

Next I'll talk about some animals of some specific areas of the Noagene.

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The continents "tilt" making Europe closer to the Tropic of the Cancer (and America closer to the poles).

Based on what projection of continental movements in 10(?) years? This is not like 300 million years, we do have projections for that far in the future.

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Eventually the southern half of the Sahara is now rainforest

How?

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This is also an age known as the "Hot Age", which began when the humans first used the power of steam. The peak of the Hot Age is roughly 15myl and the end of it would be 102myl (gradual temperature decrease and rises and decrease and... you know).

You do realize that the effect of anthropogenic climate change probably directly won't last that long. After a period of time, the ice ages will continue. There won't be a "hot age" that's directly from humans, and it certainly wouldn't last 102 million years.

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But wait... Mediterranean Europe is "desertifing":


Yes, desertification is effecting Europe like it is a lot of places. The Sahara is spreading to Europe, that's a common fact. However, like you said, it's not the same thing that you described.
Anthropomorphic climate change might last for at least 100000 years or maybe 1000 years. But we must know that greenhouse gas is still higher than normal (CO2 cannot be absorbed by rocks, which are mostly covered by soil and other stuff). Cooling can take a long time, which is why the peak of the Hot Age is only during the time of the humans and after. With the global temperature rising from at least 3 to 5 C (human time), sea level rise. Water absorb heat in a way but the increase in sea level only changes it a little. Heat is then brought to land along with humidity. In final, the Earth experiences a period of cooling and heating. During the Hot Age, the Earth's temperature is a little higher (at least 3 C).

When I say "tilt", basically don't expect for example Africa reaching the south pole or other things like that. The world also goes "downward" (moves south). At least 50 million years from now (I will say myfn) , much of the landmasses are at the equator. However it rises again to the north and "tilts" 100myfn. About 155myfn, Africa detaches from Pthe rest of the world. 100myfn, the world has a supercontinent known as Pantarctica (no, not Amasia or Pangea Ultima or anything, the reason is that it's... of course, different in some way). But that's for another day.

Oh wow, I don't know if I can handle some more H-bombs or stuff. I should really continue but still...



“There's a tree," Starflight said, jumping to his feet. "In the forest."
"No way," Glory said. "A tree in the forest?”


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"One of those capsules hit a wing." Victor said. "Had to do an emergency landing." He pointed to a crumpled plane a couple dozen meters behind him and shrugged. "Not my most elegant landing."
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30 million years later

We are now 10 million years after the Noagene. The world has changed a bit. The Hot Age (or should I say the First Hot Age) is losing its "altitude" because temperature drops. Alaska and Siberia have finally united, closing the Bering strait. As always the Earth has another climatic change. This is it: it's a new Ice Age. The end of the First Hot age is marked by a gradual drop of temperatures. Ice caps move to the equator. They arrive in China, Florida and cover all of Europe. The desertification of Europe is stopped abruptly by this Ice age. The MSP covers up: birds that laid eggs in it can no longer lay them there. Some birds die but a handfull population moves to the Equator: this is known as the "Migration". Birds clash with other species. This Ice age makes all life in the north of Eurasiamericafrica impossible... or is it?

There's still life over there! Of course. But they're insects over there! How? These insects have chose to stay while some others "migrate": insects have a short life span so many generations could have been born during one trip. This is nothing new actually as today there are some that migrate and other that stay and fight of the cold temperature.

But in the future, some insects are bigger than usual such as the Flying Cockroaches and another one that I forgot the name (they were mentioned previously). The MSP is dotted with insects which is why most birds come. However some are not chased by these birds and without any predators (they have actually but they are rare), their size increases in a matter of millions of years. These big insects have a harder time to have "tactics" to survive winter such as the insects of today. As temperature drops in the MSP, insects are rarer and rarer.

But now half of the MSP is covered by snow and ice and still, they're insects. They have evolve new ways such as "fur". The "fur" they have is nothing like the fur of a cat or like the hairs of a human but they still serve the same function. They help the body regulate temperature.

This Ice age lasts almost 1 million years. At its peak, the ice caps reaches the north of Arabia. Temperature on Earth cools down: grasslands and savanna, much like during the Pliocene, are more common. Sea level drops which makes America and Siberia connected again however here the separation between them is only of 4.7 km.

The MSP, once a land full of bird nests, is now a "lifeless" cold plain populated by insects.

This Ice age ends almost 1 million years after its beginning, ice melts and rises sea level. An event happens in the MSP known as the "Akupantagene Mediterranean Flood" (or AMF). The Mediterranean sea comes back but much like before it dries up again. However here the drought is much slower due to the ice continuing to melt until there's no more ice over the MSP. The melting takes at least 15000 years to complete. This is for now "shortest" Ice age the Earth has ever seen (the Pleistocene Ice age stops at the middle of the Noagene). The 2nd Hot age starts.

Now more insects are "fury" (today there are some insects that have some sort of "coat") so the fact that insects have "fur" is nothing new. The end of the Ice age still made big changes in geological features as in biological features.

That's it for now. More updates will come (of course). And in the next update we will mostly take a look at the new Mediterranean sea, its redrought and its repopulation... and other things.
“There's a tree," Starflight said, jumping to his feet. "In the forest."
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"One of those capsules hit a wing." Victor said. "Had to do an emergency landing." He pointed to a crumpled plane a couple dozen meters behind him and shrugged. "Not my most elegant landing."
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Here is a drawing that I made of earth 30 million years in the future:

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"One of those capsules hit a wing." Victor said. "Had to do an emergency landing." He pointed to a crumpled plane a couple dozen meters behind him and shrugged. "Not my most elegant landing."
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That is a very large ice sheet in the north, but why is there no ice in the south?
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That is a very large ice sheet in the north, but why is there no ice in the south?
There is Ice in the south. Its just the perspective of the "satellite image". Actually the southern Ice cap covered all of the Antarctic Ocean and reached Cape Horn.
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"One of those capsules hit a wing." Victor said. "Had to do an emergency landing." He pointed to a crumpled plane a couple dozen meters behind him and shrugged. "Not my most elegant landing."
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30 million years later

We are still going to focus on this brief Ice Age.
And here is one of the insects that lived in frozen Europe:

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Snow Beetle

Scientific Name: Coleoptera Europus

The Snow beetle is an insect that lives in Europe, the now frozen MSP and some parts of Asia. They are more beetles near the edge of the ice caps than further in (of course). It's actually big, bigger than the actual Titan beetle. It is mainly herbivore and is viviparous. However, unlike aphids or some cockroaches, snow beetle developed a sort of almost "placental" like features. The baby in the belly of the mother is fed through a tube that can be compared to an umbilical cord but isn't an umbilical cord. There is no placenta so the nutriments of the mother is shared directly with the baby. Once the baby is born, the mother stays with the baby for at least 2 days until the mother beetle leaves the newborn. There is one dimorphic change between the male and the female, it is the "belly marks" that are different between the male and the female. These beetles have a small bump on their belly which can be compared to a mammals belly button (but again its NOT a belly button). This bump can either be a tiny hole, a small circular scar or even nonexistent. The size is also different, females are larger than males and I can assure that in the precedent image, the beetle compared to the Titan beetle was a male!

But they are the prey of another insect:

White Wasp

Scientific name: Vespula Arctica

White wasp is a flightless wasp that lives in the same areas as the Snow beetle. They're, of course, oviparous and are carnivorous.

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They chase snow beetles not just for food but also for their eggs. Here a female beetle got tipped over. Unlucky she cannot escape and so the wasps poison her before eating her alive. Once they ate the belly and the inside of the beetle, the female wasp (which isn't in the previous image, the female is 2 times bigger than the male), lays thousands off eggs in the body of the beetle. The pattern we see on this Snow Beetle's belly suggests it's a female (I will post an image of the different pattern in the next update... sorry if you wanted to see the difference here). White wasps are of course eusocial.

Thats it for now. More updates will come.
“There's a tree," Starflight said, jumping to his feet. "In the forest."
"No way," Glory said. "A tree in the forest?”


"Ce corps qui s'appelait et qui s'appelle encore le saint empire romain n'était en aucune manière ni saint, ni romain, ni empire." -Voltaire

"So if you wake up in the morning and it's a particularly beautiful day you'll know we made it."
-Capa

"One of those capsules hit a wing." Victor said. "Had to do an emergency landing." He pointed to a crumpled plane a couple dozen meters behind him and shrugged. "Not my most elegant landing."
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There is one dimorphic change between the male and the female, it is the "belly marks" that are different between the male and the female. These beetles have a small bump on their belly which can be compared to a mammals belly button (but again its NOT a belly button).

Why?
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There is one dimorphic change between the male and the female, it is the "belly marks" that are different between the male and the female. These beetles have a small bump on their belly which can be compared to a mammals belly button (but again its NOT a belly button).

Why?
The "belly marks" are actually used as a sort of "identity" to know if its a male or a female. They also use it to "attract" (but the marking are the same between every gender but it is always different between male and female).
“There's a tree," Starflight said, jumping to his feet. "In the forest."
"No way," Glory said. "A tree in the forest?”


"Ce corps qui s'appelait et qui s'appelle encore le saint empire romain n'était en aucune manière ni saint, ni romain, ni empire." -Voltaire

"So if you wake up in the morning and it's a particularly beautiful day you'll know we made it."
-Capa

"One of those capsules hit a wing." Victor said. "Had to do an emergency landing." He pointed to a crumpled plane a couple dozen meters behind him and shrugged. "Not my most elegant landing."
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45 million years later

We are now 45 million years after humans at the end of the Akupantagene. At this point, the Earth has got bigger amount of O2 in the atmosphere. Most insects are now as big as a cat. After South America's seperation from North America, the continents rejoin but in a different manner: South America collides with Florida. The process of mountain formation begins. For now there is a range of cliffs known as the Inter American Cliffs or IAC for short.

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Armadillos! Armadillos are the dominant species of this region. However only one is the "dominator": the Mega Floridan Armadillo. Evolved from Armadillos that already live in Florida (especially the 9 striped armadillo), they are big and in fact bigger than the Giant Armadillo. Take an Ankylosaurus for example (a dinosaur), this Armadillo is half the size of the Ankylosaurus (this armadillo is approximatively 3 meters long and almost 1 meters tall). But this mammal isn't the only big creature of the area. There's the Gigantic Floridan Beetle, almost the same size as this armadillo. This gigantic beetle is the descendant of the Titan Beetle. It's carnivorous, made with a shell harder than any beetles on Earth. It's also the predator of this Armadillo:

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This tipped over armadillo is gonna have its belly devoured by the beetle. The beetle has strong mandibles capable of tearing part flesh. Most beetles only eat the belly and the organs, leaving an almost empty shell (with the arms, head and tail remaining). This Mega Amardillo doesn't have fur on its abdominal area around its navel because he is infected by a parasite that makes him lose fur, especially on the underbelly (the parasite lives right under the skin and munches on the "roots" of the hairs. The beetle is immune to this parasite. The parasite was a result of gradual global warming after the brief Akupantagene Ice age. A new Hot age has begun. Meanwhile Europe lost many trees. It is now a grassland that is in the process of desertification. The melting of the ice during the end of the brief Ice age has returned the MSP into the Mediterranean Sea. However the sea will dry up in about a course of 200000 years. It will rebecome the MSP. The Lemozoit starts and we will see one of the future's "protoplesivarans"

Thats it for now. More updates coming.

“There's a tree," Starflight said, jumping to his feet. "In the forest."
"No way," Glory said. "A tree in the forest?”


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"So if you wake up in the morning and it's a particularly beautiful day you'll know we made it."
-Capa

"One of those capsules hit a wing." Victor said. "Had to do an emergency landing." He pointed to a crumpled plane a couple dozen meters behind him and shrugged. "Not my most elegant landing."
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I don't think a beetle could reach sizes as large as that, even with higher oxygen levels. The reason why arthropods can't grow so large isn't just due to low oxygen concentrations but also because of their exoskeletons. If they become to big they will collapse under their own weight and be unable to move
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I don't think a beetle could reach sizes as large as that, even with higher oxygen levels. The reason why arthropods can't grow so large isn't just due to low oxygen concentrations but also because of their exoskeletons. If they become to big they will collapse under their own weight and be unable to move
Not if insects develop stronger exoskeleton and "internal structures" along with stronger legs. These "internal structures" are strong filaments that retains the exoskeleton from collapsing. The exoskeleton is also thicker and fror this beetle, a little harder. The legs are stronger and can withstand this extra mass. Most insects during the beggining of the Akupantagene brief Ice age has seen their exoskeleton thickening in order to survive cold temperature (but this wasn't enough so "fur" came along). In the image the beetle has almost the same size as the armadillo (it's actually roughly 2.7 meters) so it's also almost half the length of an ankylosaurus.

And here is an Ankylosaurus compared to a human:

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I'm talking more of the lower estimate one which is 7.5 meters long approximatively. Its still gigantic for a beetle to reach a length of almost 3 meters. The largest arthropod that ever lived on Earth was only at least 2.5 meters long but not so tall. Some big insects were only as long as a human:

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There's also those fancy sea scorpions along with Jaekelopterus:

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You can see that Jaekelopterus is almost as big as the Gigantic Floridan Beetle (with the claws) but Jaekelopterus was rather flat:

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But this arthropod lived in the sea while the Gigantic Beetle is terrestrial. The beetle's exoskeleton is indeed stronger and thicker than today's arthropods (or stronger than Jaekelopterus???).

I hope this brought answers...



“There's a tree," Starflight said, jumping to his feet. "In the forest."
"No way," Glory said. "A tree in the forest?”


"Ce corps qui s'appelait et qui s'appelle encore le saint empire romain n'était en aucune manière ni saint, ni romain, ni empire." -Voltaire

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"One of those capsules hit a wing." Victor said. "Had to do an emergency landing." He pointed to a crumpled plane a couple dozen meters behind him and shrugged. "Not my most elegant landing."
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I'm pretty sure a thicker exoskeleton would only make it harder to move around and support its weight. Also Arthropleura (the giant millipede) did have a much lower body that was more spread out so it could reach those sizes without its mas becoming too much to handle. As for the eurypterids they lived in water so they could afford to become larger because the water would be able to support its greater weight.

I'm not saying giant beetles are impossible, but I don't think they could reach 10 feet in length regardless of high oxygen concentrations, thicker exoskeletons or bigger legs. I'm not an expert on arthropods or the sizes they can reach but personally I couldn't see beetles reaching more than a metre in length, and even that is a bit far fetched and would be dependent on absolute perfect conditions for this to happen
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Yeah, when I first saw the picture, I was like "oh it's a regular sized armadillo and some giant predatory beetle that somehow evolved due to high oxygen levels." But if both these creatures are 3 metres them it's going to be very problematic indeed. The issue is that a beetle that size would be very, very slow, and was not a low dwelling herbivore like arthropleura was, so it's not the best of analogies to compare to. Also, how is it going to be reproducing given that they are metamorphic insects with grubs? This is way too big to be feasible.
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