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| Future Earth: 10 to 50 million years later; Overhall of the Noagene, Akupantagene and of the Lemozoit | |
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| Topic Started: Jan 22 2016, 02:38 PM (2,896 Views) | |
| Victorbrine | Jan 22 2016, 02:38 PM Post #1 |
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Hey guys! It's my first time that I'm on the speculative evolution forum and I wanted to start a new thread! I am now starting a series called "Future earth"... well of course there are more things like what I am doing right now but I wanted to start my own one. If I accidentally copied someone else I apologies. I will indeed stage this series much like in TFIW (The Future Is Wild): 10myl, 50myl, 100myl, 150myl, 200myl and finally So are you ready to see how the world would evolve in my opinion? Good, then what are we waiting for? Let's start! Future Earth: 10 million years later Overhall: The continental plates are in constant move so I'm first gonna talk about the continents: Africa obviously rams into Europe, closing the Mediterranean sea. This sea starts to dry into a salt plain as the Atlas mountains continue to rise: they spread into Spain and "fuse" with the Pyrenees. The Bering sea shrinks to a strait making America and Siberia extremely close together but not attached. Australia moves north and causes the formation of "Burmia": a sub-continent formed by the Celebes, Borneo and the Philippines. Eastern Africa splits from the rest of Africa and is on it's way to India (I'll call this sub-continent Galeon). Arabia hits Iran, widening the Red Sea and expanding the Iranian Plateau. South America splits from North America, connecting the Atlantic to the Pacific Ocean while Antarctica moves north to South America. A fault line is created in the northern part of Europe splitting Scandinavia from Russia. Great Britain moves north and closer to Scandinavia. Ocean currents change and delivers temperate and warm water all around the world. The world is still warming but sea level is almost intact (the area which was once known as Senegal is flooded and southern part of Mexico is underwater). Sumatra collides with Indochina while Java moves north to Burmia. Papua rejoins Australia creating Papaustralia. Anatolia and The Balkans collide, closing the Black Sea. Greenland starts to move south as well as Iceland. Animals don't change that much but some have evolved some special abilities: -Due to the Sahara transforming into a Rain Forest, O2 level increases ans so does the insects and arachnids. -Cockroaches are able to fly while wasps evolve more ant like behaviors. -Iguanas become more aquatic which can lead to the recreation of the Plesiosaurs but from a different species. - -Birds diversify. -Jellyfishes become bigger especially those from the Physaliidae family. This period marks the beginning of the Noagene. I hope you liked it. Again I'm new here so please don't flame. Thanks for taking a look at this! Next I'll talk about some animals of some specific areas of the Noagene. Spoiler: click to toggle
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“There's a tree," Starflight said, jumping to his feet. "In the forest." "No way," Glory said. "A tree in the forest?” "Ce corps qui s'appelait et qui s'appelle encore le saint empire romain n'était en aucune manière ni saint, ni romain, ni empire." -Voltaire "So if you wake up in the morning and it's a particularly beautiful day you'll know we made it." -Capa "One of those capsules hit a wing." Victor said. "Had to do an emergency landing." He pointed to a crumpled plane a couple dozen meters behind him and shrugged. "Not my most elegant landing." -me in Flisch's story "Spec Evo: Void Entry" (Act 3) "but by rule 34 of the multiverse, if it exists, there’s a world full of it." -Tet "I must ask you to leave now." -Everyone (not realy though) in Flisch's story "Spec Evo: Void Entry" Projects Status My Blog (SE Blog) Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyBzYPIsLp0uHoPtT6ZEyww | |
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| Beetleboy | Jan 22 2016, 02:46 PM Post #2 |
neither lizard nor boy nor beetle . . . but a little of all three
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Well, there's nothing wrong with a bit of good old constructive criticism, as long as it is not put in an offensive way, like 'LOL this is so bad you SUCK!'. If you get what I'm saying. Therefore I'll give a little bit of friendly constructive criticism.
Hhm, while some multi-time period projects can be great if done well, they can also go horribly wrong. The problem is, it is hard enough to cope with one time period, but to cope with multiple? Hell, it's difficult. The only person I know who has done it, and done it well, is Dragunthunders. I myself once attempted such a project, and let us say that it was something of a failure, and leave it there. While I admire your enthusiasm, my advice would be to focus on one time period, then maybe when you're a bit more experienced, and have handled other projects, try your hand at something more like this.
Interesting ideas, but what is your reasoning behind this? |
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| Scrublord | Jan 22 2016, 03:08 PM Post #3 |
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Why would iguanas become like plesiosaurs? Iguanas are herbivores, plesiosaurs were carnivores. They would probably become like manatees instead. |
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| Tartarus | Jan 22 2016, 06:03 PM Post #4 |
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Most cockroaches have long been able to fly, so this is nothing new. And what do you mean with wasps evolving more ant-like behaviours? Many wasps are eusocial and thus already rather similar to ants.
There actually already exist a few omnivorous monitors today.
This makes sense but is rather vague. Could you be more specific on what sort of new birds are formed from this diversification? |
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| Victorbrine | Jan 23 2016, 03:47 AM Post #5 |
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What I meant was that Iguanas could develop a body structure similar to plesiosaurs but they're still hebrivore and their still... technically... Iguanas. Also plesiosaurs don't exist 10myl (duh) because plesiosaurs are from the Plesiosauria order while Iguanas are from the Squamate order (duh x2) so these "plesiosaurs" are Squamates. I know it's complicated but don't worry Scrublord, I'll explain that later. |
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“There's a tree," Starflight said, jumping to his feet. "In the forest." "No way," Glory said. "A tree in the forest?” "Ce corps qui s'appelait et qui s'appelle encore le saint empire romain n'était en aucune manière ni saint, ni romain, ni empire." -Voltaire "So if you wake up in the morning and it's a particularly beautiful day you'll know we made it." -Capa "One of those capsules hit a wing." Victor said. "Had to do an emergency landing." He pointed to a crumpled plane a couple dozen meters behind him and shrugged. "Not my most elegant landing." -me in Flisch's story "Spec Evo: Void Entry" (Act 3) "but by rule 34 of the multiverse, if it exists, there’s a world full of it." -Tet "I must ask you to leave now." -Everyone (not realy though) in Flisch's story "Spec Evo: Void Entry" Projects Status My Blog (SE Blog) Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyBzYPIsLp0uHoPtT6ZEyww | |
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| Victorbrine | Jan 23 2016, 11:17 AM Post #6 |
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10 million years later Birds: As i said before, birds diversify but it seems that Tartarus and all of you would like some specific specimens. Okay then here are just a few of them: -Ocean Falcon (or Fisher Falcon): These Falcons evolving from the Peregrine Falcon change their main diet from birds to fishes. Peregrine Falcons already eat fishes but they're food only when they "pirate prey": feeding on another animals captured prey (called Kleptoparasitism). The Ocean Falcon chases fishes that are in the oceans and seas by diving into schools of fish from above (much like how seabirds do). Their feets have modifies and have a more duck like appearance: this will help the bird swimming). -Chaser Pigeon: With the scarcity of grains, seeds, greens, insects and snails in the "Mediterranean Salt Plain" (the sea dries up due to the strait of Gibraltar closing) and in Southern Europe: native pigeons are starting to feed on other small birds becoming Chaser Pigeons. They are bigger than today's Voyager Pigeon and Passenger Pigeon. They chase individually but regroup in certain areas to eat their prey. However they can still eat an actual pigeon's food. -Giganto Accipitra: The descendant of the Bald Eagle, the main change that was done with it was it's size. These eagles no longer have a specific migration pattern and some arrive in Eurasiafrica. They still rely on thermals and climate to fly to another place. Only 3 birds for now but hey, it's still a sort of intro right? Well... Now I would like to answer to Axolotl Lord: Axolotl Lord, after reading your reply I still have the enthusiasm to separate this series in multiple parts but I have a feeling *music* that not "tonight is gonna be a good night" but rather that indeed it will be complicated. After focusing on the 10myl mark I planned to change to "The Habitable Zone" and do some Xenobiology. I might return here and do another thread on the 50myl mark in maybe... hmm... a month or so? Actually I started a thread on Xenobiology but I'll finish this before moving there. SO GUYS! I will make more posts here and maybe next time I'll talk about the insects! If you would images, there coming but I don't think it would be tomorrow but it will be soon! I hope this answered some of your questions, if not... sorry to make you patient! Time has different speed. How about feeding this cute little creature here?  |
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“There's a tree," Starflight said, jumping to his feet. "In the forest." "No way," Glory said. "A tree in the forest?” "Ce corps qui s'appelait et qui s'appelle encore le saint empire romain n'était en aucune manière ni saint, ni romain, ni empire." -Voltaire "So if you wake up in the morning and it's a particularly beautiful day you'll know we made it." -Capa "One of those capsules hit a wing." Victor said. "Had to do an emergency landing." He pointed to a crumpled plane a couple dozen meters behind him and shrugged. "Not my most elegant landing." -me in Flisch's story "Spec Evo: Void Entry" (Act 3) "but by rule 34 of the multiverse, if it exists, there’s a world full of it." -Tet "I must ask you to leave now." -Everyone (not realy though) in Flisch's story "Spec Evo: Void Entry" Projects Status My Blog (SE Blog) Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyBzYPIsLp0uHoPtT6ZEyww | |
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| Beetleboy | Jan 23 2016, 01:24 PM Post #7 |
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neither lizard nor boy nor beetle . . . but a little of all three
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Nice idea, but wouldn't birds of prey get this niche first? |
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| DroidSyber | Jan 23 2016, 01:38 PM Post #8 |
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I would imagine that, based on his description, it needed to change it's diet to allow it to survive the salt basin, and carnivorisim was the best option. And, as mentioned in the "misunderstanding niches" topic, multiple groups of animals can fill the same niche. I would imagine maybe the Chaser Pigeon could be a nest raider, while true falcons and other birds of prey hunt larger prey. |
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Non Enim Cadunt! No idea how to actually hold down a project. | |
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| Beetleboy | Jan 23 2016, 01:41 PM Post #9 |
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Ironic since it was I who brought that particular bit of information up.  What sort of food do they eat, then? I would imagine there is some subtle variation between it and the other predatory birds.And I know this is your first project, but I would say those birds need fleshing out a little more. Just a bit of advice. |
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| Victorbrine | Jan 24 2016, 09:03 AM Post #10 |
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The Mediterranean Salt Plain (for now i'll call it the MSP) is a large breeding ground for many species of bird. The Chaser Pigeon isn't really a nest raider and instead chases adult birds (of small size) but they can raid others nests as an alternative food (if that's what you meant NinjaSquirrel). Birds nests are very common in the MSP after its formation (which would be 3 million years after humans). You might think that it's impossible for birds nest to be found in salt plains (actually today, there are birds that lay down their eggs directly on the soil rather than build nests so this might not be new). The MSP has only 2% of vegetations. Occasionally when the eggs hatch, parents take them to places were there's more fertile lands. Which is why they lay their eggs near the continents "shores" (for example at least at a maximum of 100 meters from let's say the old Italian coasts). Speaking of the MSP, some water areas are still present 10myl. Eventually there are brine lakes too but these water bodies are salty and so not suitable for drinking purposes. The Chaser Pigeon's diet is mainly composed of small birds that occasionally lay eggs in the MSP, but they can eat grains, worms, baby birds (or smashed eggs) and insects. Speaking of insects... well... not now. But i think this reply "hopefully" answered some of your doubts that can be stuck in your mind. If you didn't have an answer here, I will post some other replies but for now that's it. Thanks for reading! Again next time, I'll introduce you to the insects of the future (especially those from... well... the MSP and forests... european ones). Edited by Victorbrine, Jan 24 2016, 09:05 AM.
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“There's a tree," Starflight said, jumping to his feet. "In the forest." "No way," Glory said. "A tree in the forest?” "Ce corps qui s'appelait et qui s'appelle encore le saint empire romain n'était en aucune manière ni saint, ni romain, ni empire." -Voltaire "So if you wake up in the morning and it's a particularly beautiful day you'll know we made it." -Capa "One of those capsules hit a wing." Victor said. "Had to do an emergency landing." He pointed to a crumpled plane a couple dozen meters behind him and shrugged. "Not my most elegant landing." -me in Flisch's story "Spec Evo: Void Entry" (Act 3) "but by rule 34 of the multiverse, if it exists, there’s a world full of it." -Tet "I must ask you to leave now." -Everyone (not realy though) in Flisch's story "Spec Evo: Void Entry" Projects Status My Blog (SE Blog) Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyBzYPIsLp0uHoPtT6ZEyww | |
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| Victorbrine | Jan 28 2016, 06:05 AM Post #11 |
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HELLO GUYS! Finally there's an update here, so without further a do (if that's how we write it...) let's continue! 15 million years later With humans gone, rainforest's degradation has stopped. But the Amazon forest still had 25% of it destroyed by humans. A change of climate (global warming) has enabled rainforests to expand on the Sahara desert while Europe "desertifies". CO2 level is still high but O2 level "climbs an endless mountain". Meaning that there's more O2 after humans than before. Insects are now bigger (their average body size is proportional to the volume of O2 in their area) than today's insects (which will be quite scary). The biggest insect today is a weta found in New Zealand however, 15 million years from now, insects are much bigger than the weta found in New Zealand. Across the MSP, insects the size of your average computer resides such as Flying Roaches: cockroaches that fly over a long period of time (today some cockroaches fly but on a very short amount of time). These cockroaches are the biggest and main insects of the MSP (Mediterranean Salt Plain for those who forgot). However they do have a rival: the Eurasiafrican Hornet: Hornets that are almost the same size as the Flying Roaches. These hornets lost the ability to sting but evolved an extremely strong bite. These hornets also feed on some bird's eggs, same for the flying roaches. They also chase small birds and feed on them. 15 million years from now, the Bering Strait shrinks and becomes like the Gibraltar Strait today. In fact, it shrinks from 80 km approximatively between Asia and America to only 12 km. The Diomedes islands in the strait are now "fused" and become the Duodiomedes Island. This island is the only island residing insects smaller than a 10 years old's thumb. Iguanas become much more aquatic than during the time of the humans. They evolve fin like legs. That's it for now, next time I will talk about sharks 20 million years from now... you might also realise that I'm "traveling into the future" instead of being stuck at the 10myl mark. That's because I'm going till 50myl, spanning across the Noagene (3-20myl), the Akupantagene (20-45myl) and almost to the end of the Lemozoit (which is from 45-55myl). The "real" age of sharks are noemally during the Charcarogene (55-60myl) but they still changed before this period. Spoiler: click to toggle
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“There's a tree," Starflight said, jumping to his feet. "In the forest." "No way," Glory said. "A tree in the forest?” "Ce corps qui s'appelait et qui s'appelle encore le saint empire romain n'était en aucune manière ni saint, ni romain, ni empire." -Voltaire "So if you wake up in the morning and it's a particularly beautiful day you'll know we made it." -Capa "One of those capsules hit a wing." Victor said. "Had to do an emergency landing." He pointed to a crumpled plane a couple dozen meters behind him and shrugged. "Not my most elegant landing." -me in Flisch's story "Spec Evo: Void Entry" (Act 3) "but by rule 34 of the multiverse, if it exists, there’s a world full of it." -Tet "I must ask you to leave now." -Everyone (not realy though) in Flisch's story "Spec Evo: Void Entry" Projects Status My Blog (SE Blog) Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyBzYPIsLp0uHoPtT6ZEyww | |
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| Victorbrine | Jan 28 2016, 07:35 AM Post #12 |
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SPECIAL Earth's rings: 50 million years later 50 million years from now, an event known as "God's Gift" happens: a large bollide, the size of 2 Rhode Islands, passes by Earth however it passes inside Earth's Roche Limit. The speed of this asteroid was rather slower than any other asteroids, which lead to a trajectory that would hit the Earth. But before it could hit the Earth, this asteroid broke due to tidal forces. Time passes and a ring is formed, a ring that is small (smaller than Saturn's) but still visible. It is the Earth's first ever "permanent" rings. It cannot form a moon because it is inside Earth's Roche limit. The Solar System of the future Jupiter Jupiter's infamous Great Red Spot disappeared but two other formed. Jupiter has now 2 Red Spots known as the "Brother's spot". Mars Mars hasn't changed that much but there are new things: volcanoes are "reactivated" by a rather big impact in the future. A greenhouse effect occurs. Ice in Mars's north polar region start to melt. In a matter of thousands of years, Mars has oceans. Another impact occurs but it is a rather small one and this, delivers a special gift, a second chance for Mars... life. Saturn Saturn's rings are still here but the thickness of the rings got thinner. Some new moons are formed at the outer edge of Saturn's rings. Atlas and one of the new moons collide. Uranus and Neptune Uranus and Neptune changed orbit and now Uranus is the 8th planet. Venus Venus is completely reformed after an impact similar to the Earth-Theia impact (a large object entered the solar system... and it's not Nibiru of course). Venus has finally a moon and it's atmosphere is completely changed from a thick and harsh atmosphere to a more peaceful one. What can the future hold? |
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“There's a tree," Starflight said, jumping to his feet. "In the forest." "No way," Glory said. "A tree in the forest?” "Ce corps qui s'appelait et qui s'appelle encore le saint empire romain n'était en aucune manière ni saint, ni romain, ni empire." -Voltaire "So if you wake up in the morning and it's a particularly beautiful day you'll know we made it." -Capa "One of those capsules hit a wing." Victor said. "Had to do an emergency landing." He pointed to a crumpled plane a couple dozen meters behind him and shrugged. "Not my most elegant landing." -me in Flisch's story "Spec Evo: Void Entry" (Act 3) "but by rule 34 of the multiverse, if it exists, there’s a world full of it." -Tet "I must ask you to leave now." -Everyone (not realy though) in Flisch's story "Spec Evo: Void Entry" Projects Status My Blog (SE Blog) Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyBzYPIsLp0uHoPtT6ZEyww | |
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| CaledonianWarrior96 | Jan 28 2016, 08:41 AM Post #13 |
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I like the idea of Earth forming rings, but what does the solar system have to do with life on Earth? If you just wanted to add it in then fair enough, just seems a little odd is all |
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| Beetleboy | Jan 28 2016, 09:52 AM Post #14 |
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I like the sound of this.
I like it. It adds more depth to the project, and follows along a similar idea to one of my project ideas, exploring life not just on Earth but on terraformed planets. |
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| Victorbrine | Jan 28 2016, 11:28 AM Post #15 |
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I won't actually go to a more terraformed planet style but I planned a project talking about an alternate Mars. I hope that this Charcarogene thingy doesn't enter in Shark Week on SyFy 
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“There's a tree," Starflight said, jumping to his feet. "In the forest." "No way," Glory said. "A tree in the forest?” "Ce corps qui s'appelait et qui s'appelle encore le saint empire romain n'était en aucune manière ni saint, ni romain, ni empire." -Voltaire "So if you wake up in the morning and it's a particularly beautiful day you'll know we made it." -Capa "One of those capsules hit a wing." Victor said. "Had to do an emergency landing." He pointed to a crumpled plane a couple dozen meters behind him and shrugged. "Not my most elegant landing." -me in Flisch's story "Spec Evo: Void Entry" (Act 3) "but by rule 34 of the multiverse, if it exists, there’s a world full of it." -Tet "I must ask you to leave now." -Everyone (not realy though) in Flisch's story "Spec Evo: Void Entry" Projects Status My Blog (SE Blog) Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyBzYPIsLp0uHoPtT6ZEyww | |
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