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1 Million years AD; The strange unfamiliar world of the not so distant future
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Most future evolution projects take place in the more distant future, over 5 million years away. But life can evolve and change over much shorter timescales. This especially applies after extinction events. Only a few hundred thousand years after the K-Pg extinction, Palaeocene mammals had already become larger than any known Mesozoic mammal.

Today, a similar, though as yet less severe extinction event is taking place. Already most of the megafauna that existed for the past several million years have gone extinct, leaving niches open. The only things keeping them open are human activities and time. But history and common sense tell us that at some point in the next thousand years our planetary civilisation will probably collapse, largely eliminating the main factor stopping life carrying on.

Fast forward 1 million years, and the 'wild' is again the normal state of the earth. The oceans have risen some 80 metres due to human induced climate change, for the same reason most of the worlds ice is gone too. Several super volcanoes have erupted, and the last remnants of the modern 'concrete jungle' have crumbled. Humans are rare, and are considerably different to 21st century people. They are no longer a significant force effecting the earth.

Some groups of animals are identical to those we are familiar with, some are similar but obviously different, and a few are unlike anything found in the modern era. This is the world in 1 million years AD.
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I'm surprised no one has commented on the ideas so far. The last one in particular I thought would have started a conversation.
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Birds evolving into dinosaurs were done a few times before, but I like your Chickensaurus experiment.
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Well if terror-birds are evolutionary analogues of some theropod dinosaurs then it might be possible for it to happen again the future. Even early phorusrhacids evolved alongside large masurpial carnivores in South America.

I have them in my project as well, though I've only done the ones in the first chapter. So yeah I can see them re-evolving, but I'm not sure how fast they can evolve. The Carakillers in TWIF evolved in 5 million years, but I'm not sure if a bird like that could evolve in that timespan. 10 million years sure that's more plausible.

Just take in mind that dinosaur-birds probably won't be able to re-evolve more claws/fingers/digits in future and most likely will have only one (though one can be enough anyway)
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If it makes everyone happy I will change the sea level rise to 80 metres, which is a widely sited number.
I'll buy it, given the chain reaction effect you mentioned before. How does methane decompose into carbon dioxide and water vapour?
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Well these aren't really terror birds so much but more like actual non-avian dinosaurs. They are descended from the ongoing 'chickenosaurus' experiment. If you look it up you will understand. Technically these are still chickens, but they look more like small theropods like Compsognathus. I'm not sure but I think they might do better on an island, but I haven't thought about it much yet.


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Since I made that last list I've thought up a group of lizards that have become bipedal similar in appearance and niche to carcharodontosaurs. Il draw a picture and show you. I suppose it fits under 'endothermic terrestrial squamate'.
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Ive always thought phorusrhacid-like birds could evolve again in the future so I just figured you meant that.

I suppose since you added a chickensaurus then that could lead to dinosaur-like animals again. Is that your official name or is just a nickname you're calling it for now?
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Well there will be large predatory birds similar to terror birds in a lot of places actually, but not all of them will be flightless. Basically imagine storks that are potentially over 3 metres tall, with serrated beaks and 7 metre wingspans... If it sounds over the top modern storks can have wingspans of over 4 metres in the case of the marbou stork (most don't get nearly that big but it's considered plausible). These might be the closest thing you could get to a dragon in real life of they existed now. Flying terror birds with spears on their faces...
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I'm probably going to call the group that all chickenosaur belong to as the 'gallosauria'. Their appearance will probably be similar to small dromaeosaurs and other heavily feathered theropods. They are probably going to be restricted to an island somewhere though because it's easier to keep track of them then, maybe the future micro continent of Baja California could be an ideal habitat. I suppose it would superficially look like a land lost in time in some aspects.
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These might be the closest thing you could get to a dragon in real life of they existed now
I actually have been working on a group of future reptiles that have evolved to look similar to dragons. Well actually their more like wyverns (masically four limbed dragons; two wings and two legs) and don't breathe fire, but I do think that something that looks like a dragon could evolve in the future.

The only problem I'm having really is the tail, because I'm not too sure how long a tail can be before it starts causing problems during flight, what with drag, inbalance in weight distribution of the animal and maneuvrability. A lot of advance flying vertebrates have either short tails or next to no tail at all (birds have rounded tail feathers, pterosaurs gradually had shorter tails until they were tiny stubs and bats have short tails as well)


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I thought about dragons for a while, those 'revolutionary' flying varanids that most of the more experienced members rejected it because it's 'impossible while birds exist'. I've sort of got a hunch that it was specifically because I created it and a lot of my ideas disagree with most other people... Whatever that bit isn't relevant. As for the tail part, depending on what lizard they are descended from, they might keep it or lose it. Geckos might turn their tail into a sort of fin shape.
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These are descended from the Draco genus of flying lizards of Southeast Asia, who already have a wing-like membrane. I'm not saying too much because they are in Future Planet but pretty much I created a group of flying reptiles that are convergently similar to dragons of mythic lore.

I thought about if they developed a fin-like structure on their tails that would stop them from dragging downwards and increasing the surface area of them, like the dragons Hyrotrioskjan draws
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I think there was a post somewhere about why that isn't plausible but it might be better to talk about that when you start the project, rather than on my project post where it isn't really relevant.
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Actually yeah I'll do it then, sorry about that
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Maybe the neo-terror birds are descended from seriemas? And could we have leopards replace other big cats?
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