1 Million years AD

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1 Million years AD; The strange unfamiliar world of the not so distant future
Topic Started: Dec 23 2015, 04:28 AM (6,490 Views)
El Dorito	Dec 23 2015, 04:28 AM Post #1
chlorinated opthalmic trigonometric shape of conspiracy and dank memes Posts: 400 Group: Members Member #1,763 Joined: Sep 15, 2015 Gender: Male Nationality: Australian/Tasmanian Favorite Quote: Colour is not real, it is something your brain makes up to make sense of the world. What you can't see has no colour at all. Also known as: Da Sloth M8, KaptainWombat Gender: clearly I am a chlorinated opthalmic trigonomic shape of conspitacy and dank memes	All pictures will be able to be found here: el-d0rito.deviantart.com Most future evolution projects take place in the more distant future, over 5 million years away. But life can evolve and change over much shorter timescales. This especially applies after extinction events. Only a few hundred thousand years after the K-Pg extinction, Palaeocene mammals had already become larger than any known Mesozoic mammal. Today, a similar, though as yet less severe extinction event is taking place. Already most of the megafauna that existed for the past several million years have gone extinct, leaving niches open. The only things keeping them open are human activities and time. But history and common sense tell us that at some point in the next thousand years our planetary civilisation will probably collapse, largely eliminating the main factor stopping life carrying on. Fast forward 1 million years, and the 'wild' is again the normal state of the earth. The oceans have risen some 80 metres due to human induced climate change, for the same reason most of the worlds ice is gone too. Several super volcanoes have erupted, and the last remnants of the modern 'concrete jungle' have crumbled. Humans are rare, and are considerably different to 21st century people. They are no longer a significant force effecting the earth. Some groups of animals are identical to those we are familiar with, some are similar but obviously different, and a few are unlike anything found in the modern era. This is the world in 1 million years AD. Edited by El Dorito, Jan 5 2016, 08:55 PM.
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Bruno01	Dec 23 2015, 08:52 AM Post #2
Infant Posts: 129 Group: Members Member #1,833 Joined: Dec 19, 2015 Gender: Male Nationality: Argentinian Also known as: Bruno	Don't go crazy. You can't modify many animals in only 1 million years. And there wasn't a mass extinction, so only the megafauna went extinct. If the animals are adapted to a niche and there isn't another niche to occupy, they probablt won't change a lot.
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Dragonthunders	Dec 23 2015, 09:48 AM Post #3
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revin	Dec 23 2015, 12:25 PM Post #4
Leonardo da Vinci at his finest Posts: 905 Group: Members Member #1,466 Joined: Jun 22, 2014 Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: United Statesian Gender: Attack helicopter (please use the pronoun heli)	Remember that while evolution may indeed take unexpected routes shortly after a mass extinction, you're implying that this really is the sixth extinction. If you are assuming maximum possible extinction due to humans, it will take about 5 million years to recover. Alternatively, if you go with a smaller extinction that only kills off megafauna, then there will not be all to much change. Megafauna isn't a niche that needs to be filled, and in fact, it may still take some time to fill it. Then again, judging by your first animal, it doesn't seem you're going very extreme at all. It's still in the genus Varanus, which doesn't really mean anything, since it's been around for so long, but still, the extent of change is appropriate for the time period.
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El Dorito	Dec 23 2015, 06:38 PM Post #5
chlorinated opthalmic trigonometric shape of conspiracy and dank memes Posts: 400 Group: Members Member #1,763 Joined: Sep 15, 2015 Gender: Male Nationality: Australian/Tasmanian Favorite Quote: Colour is not real, it is something your brain makes up to make sense of the world. What you can't see has no colour at all. Also known as: Da Sloth M8, KaptainWombat Gender: clearly I am a chlorinated opthalmic trigonomic shape of conspitacy and dank memes	We'll if you look at how different some of today's animals looked 1 million years ago, it's not as likely that everything from today will still look the same in another million years. As for large palaeocene mammals evolving quickly, I might have gone a bit overboard with the size, but I seem to remember reading that things called taeinodonts (or something like that) managed to get to the size of a large dog within a million years of the K-Pg event happening. I guess that isn't very big still, but it's still bigger than any known Mesozoic mammal. The next drawing I made was of another different varanid, because I personally think that reptiles would probably change more in a warming climate. After that I am not sure, but it will probably be a mammal.
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El Dorito	Dec 23 2015, 06:50 PM Post #6
chlorinated opthalmic trigonometric shape of conspiracy and dank memes Posts: 400 Group: Members Member #1,763 Joined: Sep 15, 2015 Gender: Male Nationality: Australian/Tasmanian Favorite Quote: Colour is not real, it is something your brain makes up to make sense of the world. What you can't see has no colour at all. Also known as: Da Sloth M8, KaptainWombat Gender: clearly I am a chlorinated opthalmic trigonomic shape of conspitacy and dank memes	Also I didn't specifically imply that the ongoing issue is a mass extinction, but there are many niches that were filled until recently that are now empty, hence why I thought about this. At the moment the 'Holocene Mass Extinction' isn't yet a thing ( though it probably will be soon if nothing is done about it).
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El Dorito	Dec 23 2015, 07:42 PM Post #7
chlorinated opthalmic trigonometric shape of conspiracy and dank memes Posts: 400 Group: Members Member #1,763 Joined: Sep 15, 2015 Gender: Male Nationality: Australian/Tasmanian Favorite Quote: Colour is not real, it is something your brain makes up to make sense of the world. What you can't see has no colour at all. Also known as: Da Sloth M8, KaptainWombat Gender: clearly I am a chlorinated opthalmic trigonomic shape of conspitacy and dank memes	Repost from The Species Factory because it belongs here. http://el-d0rito.deviantart.com/art/1-million-years-AD-Paddlesnake-579619721 Paddlesnake Varanus remus Due to anthropogenic climate change, the Holocene went from being a mere interglacial in the larger Pleistocene glaciations, to a significant epoch of the cenozoic era. Among the biggest changes to occurs is the almost total loss of all permanent ice. This melting lead to a rise in average sea levels of close to 70 metres. Much of the coastal habitat was flooded, and many specialised species went extinct. Fastforward 1 million years, and life has started to rebound. Most animals aren't that different to what we are familiar with, but there are some obvious differences, most of them regarding reptiles. In the now very warm climate, hardy reptiles have done well. Crocodiles now grow up to 10 metres long, sometimes even more. Some snakes are even longer. And with the coastal freshwater habitats being flooded long ago, some of their more hardy inhabitants have moved out to sea. One of them is the Paddlesnake, a descendant of water monitor lizards. While there are at least two species of monitor lizards that spend much of their lives in or around water, none have made much progress towards becoming oceanic. But when rising sea levels flood much of their habitat, some of them finally made the jump and took to the seas properly. The result is the paddlesnake, Varanus remus. Named for its paddle shaped limbs, this lizard might at first seem like a reminder of the mighty Mosasaurs of the distant past. At up to 3 metres long, however the paddlesnake seems to be quite small against them, although it is one of the largest reptiles of its time. Unlike mosasaurs, paddlesnakes rarely go into open water, and still retain the need to lay eggs above the high tide mark. As a measure of protection from sharks and large crocodiles, paddlesnakes have a striped green and red pattern on their neck and head, a potent warning of their venomous bite. Their venom is faster acting on fish than any other lizard, helping them catch fast moving species that would otherwise be out of reach, similar to that of sea snakes.
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El Dorito	Dec 23 2015, 08:02 PM Post #8
chlorinated opthalmic trigonometric shape of conspiracy and dank memes Posts: 400 Group: Members Member #1,763 Joined: Sep 15, 2015 Gender: Male Nationality: Australian/Tasmanian Favorite Quote: Colour is not real, it is something your brain makes up to make sense of the world. What you can't see has no colour at all. Also known as: Da Sloth M8, KaptainWombat Gender: clearly I am a chlorinated opthalmic trigonomic shape of conspitacy and dank memes	Tremendosaurus Tremendosaurus draconis http://el-d0rito.deviantart.com/art/1Million-years-AD-Tremendosaurus-579831665 Tremendosaurus is a large varanid similar to megalania but more lightly built. With long legs and dinosaur-like teeth, tremendosaurs are the top predator of most of Australia, and are able to bring down any prey they coexist with. Edited by El Dorito, Dec 23 2015, 08:08 PM.
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LittleLazyLass	Dec 23 2015, 08:17 PM Post #9
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CaledonianWarrior96	Dec 23 2015, 08:36 PM Post #10
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El Dorito	Dec 25 2015, 03:56 AM Post #11
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Harmonee	Dec 25 2015, 10:44 AM Post #12
Infant Posts: 98 Group: Members Member #1,007 Joined: Mar 24, 2013	The increase in human height is due to better nutrition in childhood not evolution.



Datura	Dec 25 2015, 11:38 AM Post #13
Adult Posts: 988 Group: Members Member #734 Joined: Mar 23, 2012 Gender: Male Nationality: U.S.A Favorite Quote: My name is Ozymandias, king of kings; Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!	The paddlesnake might have some problems. It took quite some time for many aquatic tetrapods to even gain such adaptations for going back into the water. If my memory is correct, whales took like 20 million years. Things might be going way too fast for your time period. However, unlike the crocodile, they could take to the seas a bit better, as squamates are capable of live-birth, unlike archosaurs.



El Dorito	Dec 25 2015, 06:37 PM Post #14
chlorinated opthalmic trigonometric shape of conspiracy and dank memes Posts: 400 Group: Members Member #1,763 Joined: Sep 15, 2015 Gender: Male Nationality: Australian/Tasmanian Favorite Quote: Colour is not real, it is something your brain makes up to make sense of the world. What you can't see has no colour at all. Also known as: Da Sloth M8, KaptainWombat Gender: clearly I am a chlorinated opthalmic trigonomic shape of conspitacy and dank memes	Harmonee Dec 25 2015, 10:44 AM The increase in human height is due to better nutrition in childhood not evolution. Define "evolution"... Also whales took 20 million years to become the derived forms we see today, but fully pelagic whales like Basilosaurus were around apparently less than 10 million years after the earliest terrestrial ancestral cetacean. And if you think of water monitors as a transitional form (they are basically the reptile equivalent of otters) then we are already some of the way there.
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Hybrid	Dec 25 2015, 08:54 PM Post #15
May Specula Grant you Bountiful Spec! Posts: 1,957 Group: Global Mods Member #931 Joined: Jan 12, 2013 Gender: Male Nationality: Canadian Favorite Quote: "You know what, Hybrid? I'm going to start calling you "H-bomb", because you turn just about any thread you critique into an ugly pile of wreckage ;)"	Quote: Define "evolution"... Evolution though common descent, why would he be using a different definition. But yeah, humans only became so tall recently because of better nutrition in our diets and modern medicine. In fact humans used to be tall too before the Neolithic Revolution. Since early agriculture was inefficient, they didn't get enough nutrients from their crops to grow as tall as they did before. With us having modern medicine and more efficient agriculture, humans can grow taller once again. Humans becoming taller today is not relevant to crocodilians growing taller in a period of a million years. Different processes. Quote: Also whales took 20 million years to become the derived forms we see today, but fully pelagic whales like Basilosaurus were around apparently less than 10 million years after the earliest terrestrial ancestral cetacean. It was more than 10 million years, but not the 1 million year transition shown here. Quote: And if you think of water monitors as a transitional form (they are basically the reptile equivalent of otters) then we are already some of the way there. Not really, they're generally less adapted towards being aquatic, lacking things like webbed limbs (which makes sense, given their lifestyle). It wouldn't be only 1 million years for them to already evolve flippers and a tail fluke. What you have is straight up a mosasaur. Quote: In fact I think that the time it takes in most projects for even existing species to go extinct is a massive exaggeration. I don't understand what you're implying, or how relevant that is. Quote: Most of them will be descended not just from things today, but descended from other future groups that themselves are extinct by the time the scenario is set. ...And? It's not like projects are not making new lineages, I don't know what projects you're looking at. In fact, this project wouldn't have "new groups" since it has only been 1 million years. Quote: If you look at mammals from 50 million years ago, almost none of them were even closely related, let alone similar, to things found now. That's just wrong, if anything mammals in a way were more closely related. Many groups didn't even diverge at that point.
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