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Your Project Ideas; A place to share your ideas for projects
Topic Started: Oct 14 2015, 09:27 AM (65,368 Views)
Talenkauen
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There's a lot of reasons why Lamarkism doesn't work. Life that runs on lamarkism would either be non-functioning from the start, or be adaptable to the point of being broken. If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.
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I think there was a thread on this topic.
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May 31 2017, 10:11 PM
There's a lot of reasons why Lamarkism doesn't work. Life that runs on lamarkism would either be non-functioning from the start, or be adaptable to the point of being broken. If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.
I think evolution would indeed be much quicker under Lamarkism - but only as improvement of existing traits. How would development of completely new traits work under Lamarkism? Does it even solve that issue? E.g., how would Lamarkism explain the evolution of the nervous system?
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There have been studies showing that elements of Lamarckism do persist in RL evolution since experiences can affect and transcend genetics on various occasions. As this study shoes, experiences from individuals can significantly impact the genetics of the next generations. So there is some merit to Lamarck's ideas after all.
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I've decided to abandon Lamarckism and make a project about organism evolving while they're growing up. For example, if you raise a rat in a tundra, it will become fat and hairy and create fat and hairy offspring. If you raise one of those offspring in a desert, they will lose some of their hair during adolescence. If an animal becomes to specialized, it will be harder to 'devolve' some of those traits.
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@kerguelen: I like it. It would decrease the speed it takes to evolve by about three orders of magnitude, which would not only provide some interesting time scales, but you could theoretically have complex life evolve around a higher magnitude star, potentially even a low level O.
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Nyarlathotep
Jun 1 2017, 05:00 AM
There have been studies showing that elements of Lamarckism do persist in RL evolution since experiences can affect and transcend genetics on various occasions. As this study shoes, experiences from individuals can significantly impact the genetics of the next generations. So there is some merit to Lamarck's ideas after all.
studies of epigenetics do sound like Lamarkism
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I've actually gave my 80myh project a bit more thought, and I think I might turn it into a project: The Makrinocene, derived from the Greek Word Makrinós.

Some animals I've also thought of including are viverrids taking up the niches or large predators, Deer being quite diverse and having bison and horse-analogues, subterranean snakes, and fully marine seals. Thoughts?
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I've actually gave my 80myh project a bit more thought, and I think I might turn it into a project: The Makrinocene, derived from the Greek Word Makrinós.

Some animals I've also thought of including are viverrids taking up the niches or large predators, Deer being quite diverse and having bison and horse-analogues, subterranean snakes, and fully marine seals. Thoughts?
i like all of those; do it! please.
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Thanks! I'll probably post it eventually, I just need to plan a few things out first. I don't want to rush into it.

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for the world i'm reworking, i was thinking on replacing whales with something else. the original post had acuatic perissodactyls, marine chigutisaurids and sphenodonts, at least at tropical latitudes.

the new planet is planned to be much more diverged than earth so i was wondering if snakes would be a good replacement (artyodactyls are very rare on this planet), i could still use what i had before, but didnt want to divert too much from the cenozoic.

i mean, the idea of a gigantic snake filter feeding krill/plankton seems very charming, but im not an herpetologist, so im not sure.

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There's a lot of reasons why Lamarkism doesn't work. Life that runs on lamarkism would either be non-functioning from the start, or be adaptable to the point of being broken. If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.
No, Lamarkism doesn't work because there's no biological mechanism to alter your genes by straining your neck towards fruit.
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There's a lot of reasons why Lamarkism doesn't work. Life that runs on lamarkism would either be non-functioning from the start, or be adaptable to the point of being broken. If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.
No, Lamarkism doesn't work because there's no biological mechanism to alter your genes by straining your neck towards fruit.
This is a small problem given that we are on a speculative evolution forum. The fact that the concept itself is flawed is much more serious.
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xaritscin
Jun 4 2017, 07:46 PM
for the world i'm reworking, i was thinking on replacing whales with something else. the original post had acuatic perissodactyls, marine chigutisaurids and sphenodonts, at least at tropical latitudes.

the new planet is planned to be much more diverged than earth so i was wondering if snakes would be a good replacement (artyodactyls are very rare on this planet), i could still use what i had before, but didnt want to divert too much from the cenozoic.

i mean, the idea of a gigantic snake filter feeding krill/plankton seems very charming, but im not an herpetologist, so im not sure.

snakes do have the ability to vomit (its how egg-eaters get the shell out), so its not impossible to imagine a serpent drawing food-filled water in, and then forcing the water out.
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Jun 4 2017, 11:18 PM

In my A.U. world of "ice sinks", I'm taking it as a given that ice still forms where water meets air, and then sinks.

Would ice also form on the ground underwater?

(not to be confused with sunken ice spreading its frozen reach when it comes in contact with any unmoving thing)
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