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Topic Started: Oct 14 2015, 09:27 AM (65,378 Views)
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Rodlox
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Apr 14 2017, 12:47 PM
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- Inceptis
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NOOOOO!!!!! How can I make these ideas original? I already had them, but there's so many invertebrate and ocean projects out there or being formed. Pretty much the only thing going for me is a massive, floating reef of coralline red algae. focus on the parts that interest you the most, and on the parts you know about. that will make it original.
(also, "aquatic invert.s" is not a very narrow field; no need to worry or panic)
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.---------------------------------------------. Parts of the Cluster Worlds: "Marsupialless Australia" (what-if) & "Out on a Branch" (future evolution) & "The Earth under a still sun" (WIP)
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Apr 14 2017, 12:55 PM
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While reading my 1937 edition of The Natural History Of Selbourne by Gilbert White, I just had an ingenious idea; to describe the scenes, landscape and ecology of a small area of the English countryside through poetry and personal accounts- but 20 million years hence. It would describe a very different, yet recognizable landscape in a hopefully 18th-century parson-naturalist style. It might make an excellent snapshot Evolutionary Continuum project.
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Apr 14 2017, 01:40 PM
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An idea that I just thought of, brought about by the trifecta of ocean demiplanes that we now have here:
A collaborative project (Or maybe a COM) where two or more members are each given a demiplane with a list of creatures they can evolve and a set timeframe. However, every aspect of their project, from the size and shape of the plane to the timeframe allotted, is identical; each of these members would not be told who else would be doing the same premise.
The members would then each be given a timeframe to create an ecosystem for said demiplane without ever speaking or looking at one another's work. When the time's up, both ecosystems are then examined.
Basically, the idea is to see whether or not spec members will independently create the same or similar creatures for certain roles, i.e. apex predator or large browser.
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Spoiler: click to toggle OctoSharkTaSaurus: WELP. HELL-O-PHANTS IT IS. Kamineigh: I was six and I had started having fantasies about this old crone dying. Sometimes by my own hand. YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING HORRIBLY WRONG IF A SIX-YEAR OLD WANTS TO KILL YOU WITH THE SAME HANDS HE JUST USED TO MAKE A BLOCK TOWER. Parasky: No, he's right, they have a medical grade walrus at most hospitals for that sort of thing. Mr Mysterio, regarding yours truly: I'm learning things about you that I'm not sure I wanted to know. HangingThief: An otologist is only as good as his walrus Stealth_Rock: We have a discord for double penetration? Ichthyander: If your eyelids are massive enough to significantly affect the path of light in space, it is time to go sleep. Mr Mysterio: Glarn-Glarn, don't... don't fuck the cave baboons. Kamineigh: They lacked wings. Instead, they went around in modified pilot's gear and beat the shit out of people using maces. Parasky: No! We will not calm down! This is a serious argument over whether or not some long dead animal is in any way similar to a group of modern animals that they are descended from! THIS. IS. SEWIOUS. Lamna: Obvious typo, I'm never going to be popular in Belgium. Trex841: Interesting point. Valid counterpoint. Self-obsessed psychotic rant. Parasky: No ties. Begin genetically modifying crows until we have organisms that roughly resemble those in the competition, and then have them fight to the death to see who wins this competition. Alternatively, Cephalian and SabrWolf could fight to the death. But at the end of the day something will be fighting to the death for my amusement to determine the winner. Yellowdrakex: Is it alright to have an irrational fear of gliding snakes? They're snakes. FROM ABOVE. Kamineigh: See, you wouldn't be in this mess if you began a bloody revolution every time your leaders showed to unsatisfactory. Zihuatanejo: Somewhere in heaven, a very groggy, very confused angel has just woken up and is trying to figure out why a boisterous Australian man is poking it with a stick. Komodo: I'm sorry but in what alternative universe would thousands of zebras be sent back in time by some sort of illegal time travel group to change history and preparing them by making gigantic working animatronic allosaurs? Seriously, why? Parasky: Maybe y'all should move to America, where you can flex your freedom muscles. Sir Spookums: It's a game about children catching super powered monsters, stuffing them in tiny balls, and battling other strangers' monsters. What about that makes sense in regards to anything, mister Kam? Des Orages: Yi qi. Just when you think you've seen it all, nature screws us over once more. Kaminiegh: This is clearly an inaccurate statement. I'd never challenge the authority of an admin... Unless Paraksytron stubbed his toe and fell over. THEN I, STARSCREIGHM, WILL BECOME THE NEW LEADER OF OF THE DE-SPECU-CONS! Dragon: Is normal a good word to use for describing any of us? Velociraptor: I once dreamed I was trying to steal a flamingo. The flamingo was oddly calm about the whole situation. Kaminiegh: THAT'S IT, I'M KINKSHAMING. Flashman63: In its 4,600 year history, men from all eras, places and classes have been entering into the Library: from the ancient bearded sages of Sumeria and Chaldea, to the sober-minded Academics and Zoologists of the Victorian era, to the great warlord Cletus, an inbred hillbilly who just happened to be carrying his AR-15 around his County's Strip-Mall library. OctoSharktasaurus: Well, uh, it's a pseudo-tripedal, terrestrial subcontinental Madagascan Beaked Whale... Is that not obvious? It literally says it blatantly. Holben: Did you not add lamb's blood to your fruit juice and the crushed bones of an englishman to your salsa? It's not authentic if you don't. Kaminiegh: Shut up, Hybrid, stop ruining my chances of time-travelling and getting some Neanderthal tail! Mr Mysterio: Except maybe Canada. If ever there was a country that was hiding secret reserves of powerful alien technology, it's probably mine. HangingThief: If you answered mainly "yes," you are most likely a salamander. Unfortunately it is becoming harder and harder to tell these days. Monster: In vaguely related news, I've developed a fear of my sewing machine. WHAT ARE YOU STRANGE NEEDLEBEAST Mynxi: He sowed the seed, I merely pissed on it and saw what grew. Beetleboy: The moral of the story: never trust a catfish. Parasky: Speaking of original, note to self: write erotic classical Chinese literature fan fiction Bromance of the Three Kingdoms under pseudonym Tuck Chingle. Little: Starting playing DND, took all of an hour of gameplay until a yuri love-triangle was initiated. And no, it was not my fault. Corecin: If this is your first time with a lesbian love triangle in a DnD game than you don't even have to specify that you're starting out. Octo: Oh no now Little will enlighten with the deep and complex subject that is hentai lore. Beetleboy: It shows what kind of person I am that I'm seeking crush advice on a forum about creating fictional organisms. Corecin: I am not in the mood for looking up yuri because then the FBI agent monitoring my computer will judge me with reckless abandon. Blue_Komrade: Excuse me sir I am going to have to see if you have your membership card to the Misanthrope Club. Parasky: Ultimately, by the miracle of microbiology and biochemistry, I have accidentally added an additional month to my brew and created a Bavarian style hefeweizen rather than the American style wheat beer I planned, despite technically not having the correct ingredients. However because I wrote down what I did wrong its not a mistake it's actually science. Rebirth: I can't be the only one curious about what would happen if you spayed and neutered a male antechinus before it reached sexual maturity. Ebervalius: Laws? What kind of spooky cuckery is that? Parasky: Ah see, but that's just the thing, you thought that I thought that you thought that I had said you hadn't read it, when really I had said that you had said that you thought that I thought that you hadn't read it. So really it's Flisch's fault.
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Apr 14 2017, 01:47 PM
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That seems really cool. I think it's a bit much for a COM, but as a seperate competition/game I'd gladly participate. Would people pick their partners or have them assigned at random? Also, wouldn't participants all have to 'sign up' at the very beginning in order to participate, which would greatly limit and restrict participants if they were inactive at the time, away, temporarily banned, etc?
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Recent Projects The Lance That Pierced the Stars -The world of chordates throughout its history. A planet populated only by lancelets, algae, and zooplankton. Dogworld - A planet of Good Boys, man's gift to their dearest friends.
Old Projects The Twisted Mirror -my first project, in which some unknown event sometime before the carboniferous drastically changed the course of earth's evolution, and a new clade arose that replaced the tetrapods. And then evolution went nuts. Sphera Vitae -my second project. A universe of giant hollow spheres populated with life from Earth. Each is seperate and unique from one another, and some downright inhospitable, though life evolves and finds a way like nowhere else. Haemos Island - A tiny volcanic rock in the middle of the South Pacific. An island that is no paradise.
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Apr 14 2017, 04:27 PM
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- Uncanny Gemstar
- Apr 14 2017, 01:47 PM
That seems really cool. I think it's a bit much for a COM, but as a seperate competition/game I'd gladly participate. Would people pick their partners or have them assigned at random? Also, wouldn't participants all have to 'sign up' at the very beginning in order to participate, which would greatly limit and restrict participants if they were inactive at the time, away, temporarily banned, etc? They'd be assigned at random.
The 'sign up' would be through PMs to the organizer of the games, and wouldn't be revealed until the members had released their ecosystems.
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Spoiler: click to toggle OctoSharkTaSaurus: WELP. HELL-O-PHANTS IT IS. Kamineigh: I was six and I had started having fantasies about this old crone dying. Sometimes by my own hand. YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING HORRIBLY WRONG IF A SIX-YEAR OLD WANTS TO KILL YOU WITH THE SAME HANDS HE JUST USED TO MAKE A BLOCK TOWER. Parasky: No, he's right, they have a medical grade walrus at most hospitals for that sort of thing. Mr Mysterio, regarding yours truly: I'm learning things about you that I'm not sure I wanted to know. HangingThief: An otologist is only as good as his walrus Stealth_Rock: We have a discord for double penetration? Ichthyander: If your eyelids are massive enough to significantly affect the path of light in space, it is time to go sleep. Mr Mysterio: Glarn-Glarn, don't... don't fuck the cave baboons. Kamineigh: They lacked wings. Instead, they went around in modified pilot's gear and beat the shit out of people using maces. Parasky: No! We will not calm down! This is a serious argument over whether or not some long dead animal is in any way similar to a group of modern animals that they are descended from! THIS. IS. SEWIOUS. Lamna: Obvious typo, I'm never going to be popular in Belgium. Trex841: Interesting point. Valid counterpoint. Self-obsessed psychotic rant. Parasky: No ties. Begin genetically modifying crows until we have organisms that roughly resemble those in the competition, and then have them fight to the death to see who wins this competition. Alternatively, Cephalian and SabrWolf could fight to the death. But at the end of the day something will be fighting to the death for my amusement to determine the winner. Yellowdrakex: Is it alright to have an irrational fear of gliding snakes? They're snakes. FROM ABOVE. Kamineigh: See, you wouldn't be in this mess if you began a bloody revolution every time your leaders showed to unsatisfactory. Zihuatanejo: Somewhere in heaven, a very groggy, very confused angel has just woken up and is trying to figure out why a boisterous Australian man is poking it with a stick. Komodo: I'm sorry but in what alternative universe would thousands of zebras be sent back in time by some sort of illegal time travel group to change history and preparing them by making gigantic working animatronic allosaurs? Seriously, why? Parasky: Maybe y'all should move to America, where you can flex your freedom muscles. Sir Spookums: It's a game about children catching super powered monsters, stuffing them in tiny balls, and battling other strangers' monsters. What about that makes sense in regards to anything, mister Kam? Des Orages: Yi qi. Just when you think you've seen it all, nature screws us over once more. Kaminiegh: This is clearly an inaccurate statement. I'd never challenge the authority of an admin... Unless Paraksytron stubbed his toe and fell over. THEN I, STARSCREIGHM, WILL BECOME THE NEW LEADER OF OF THE DE-SPECU-CONS! Dragon: Is normal a good word to use for describing any of us? Velociraptor: I once dreamed I was trying to steal a flamingo. The flamingo was oddly calm about the whole situation. Kaminiegh: THAT'S IT, I'M KINKSHAMING. Flashman63: In its 4,600 year history, men from all eras, places and classes have been entering into the Library: from the ancient bearded sages of Sumeria and Chaldea, to the sober-minded Academics and Zoologists of the Victorian era, to the great warlord Cletus, an inbred hillbilly who just happened to be carrying his AR-15 around his County's Strip-Mall library. OctoSharktasaurus: Well, uh, it's a pseudo-tripedal, terrestrial subcontinental Madagascan Beaked Whale... Is that not obvious? It literally says it blatantly. Holben: Did you not add lamb's blood to your fruit juice and the crushed bones of an englishman to your salsa? It's not authentic if you don't. Kaminiegh: Shut up, Hybrid, stop ruining my chances of time-travelling and getting some Neanderthal tail! Mr Mysterio: Except maybe Canada. If ever there was a country that was hiding secret reserves of powerful alien technology, it's probably mine. HangingThief: If you answered mainly "yes," you are most likely a salamander. Unfortunately it is becoming harder and harder to tell these days. Monster: In vaguely related news, I've developed a fear of my sewing machine. WHAT ARE YOU STRANGE NEEDLEBEAST Mynxi: He sowed the seed, I merely pissed on it and saw what grew. Beetleboy: The moral of the story: never trust a catfish. Parasky: Speaking of original, note to self: write erotic classical Chinese literature fan fiction Bromance of the Three Kingdoms under pseudonym Tuck Chingle. Little: Starting playing DND, took all of an hour of gameplay until a yuri love-triangle was initiated. And no, it was not my fault. Corecin: If this is your first time with a lesbian love triangle in a DnD game than you don't even have to specify that you're starting out. Octo: Oh no now Little will enlighten with the deep and complex subject that is hentai lore. Beetleboy: It shows what kind of person I am that I'm seeking crush advice on a forum about creating fictional organisms. Corecin: I am not in the mood for looking up yuri because then the FBI agent monitoring my computer will judge me with reckless abandon. Blue_Komrade: Excuse me sir I am going to have to see if you have your membership card to the Misanthrope Club. Parasky: Ultimately, by the miracle of microbiology and biochemistry, I have accidentally added an additional month to my brew and created a Bavarian style hefeweizen rather than the American style wheat beer I planned, despite technically not having the correct ingredients. However because I wrote down what I did wrong its not a mistake it's actually science. Rebirth: I can't be the only one curious about what would happen if you spayed and neutered a male antechinus before it reached sexual maturity. Ebervalius: Laws? What kind of spooky cuckery is that? Parasky: Ah see, but that's just the thing, you thought that I thought that you thought that I had said you hadn't read it, when really I had said that you had said that you thought that I thought that you hadn't read it. So really it's Flisch's fault.
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Alternative Evolution: The Extended Jurassic: The time of the titans extends through the Cretaceous Xensaron: Second chance for the strange
The Habitable Zone: Bellator: A World at War Pentrex: The five worlds of the five champions of the dinosaur world, together at last.
Alternate Universes: Terra Venatus: Where fantasy comes to life Terra Incognita: Planet Earth, now with 150% more pulp! Sol and its Surrounding Worlds: A Guide to the Organisms and Peoples of the Solar System (Companion to Terra Incognita) Guide to the Ark: ???
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Uncanny Gemstar
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Apr 14 2017, 04:53 PM
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Well I'd say that it sounds pretty cool. If enough people wanted to participate then maybe the mods could make it proper official to see if it works out as a competition. Or you could make it an 'unofficial' competition/community spec.
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Recent Projects The Lance That Pierced the Stars -The world of chordates throughout its history. A planet populated only by lancelets, algae, and zooplankton. Dogworld - A planet of Good Boys, man's gift to their dearest friends.
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Apr 14 2017, 04:57 PM
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I'd be willing to participate, but I do have my reservations about it successfully panning out. (Remember Symbiosis?)
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Apr 14 2017, 05:51 PM
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- Talenkauen Spec
- Apr 12 2017, 04:21 PM
I've got something I've been working on since January. Some of you may remember it from the final post of my belated and botched April fool's joke, Salamand-Earth. That thread is dead and buried, and I ain't bring it back.
I call it: Project Littoralis
It centers around a series of artificial pocket dimensions, containing planet-sized O'Niell Cylinders (giant spinning terrariums, basically), as well as captured stars and planetoids for energy/resources. The pocket dimensions and cylinders were created by a race of enigmatic dimension-hoppers, as a means to test the possibilities of isolated and assisted evolution. Each cylinder is split into 8 sections, sections devoted to automated functions and resource processing, two for housing custom biospheres (each cylinder gets two biospheres of a similar theme), two poles housing auxiliary a.i components and rotation mechanics, one artificial sun connected to the poles, and an protective outer shell that holds it together, and collects solar energy from the captured stars.
The bioshere sections also contain plasma shielding to keep in the atmosphere and life-forms, as well as a means of artificial continental drift. As mentioned earlier, the life on each cylinder goes by a "theme", with each of the two biospheres within being a take on said theme. There are are worlds dominated certain mammal clades, by birds, by arthropods, by molluscs, by prehistoric reptiles (including non-avian dinosaurs), even creatures from a far off futures or strange alternate timelines. However, this project is focusing on one cylinder in particular: Littoralis. Littoralis's biospheres go by a theme of flora and fauna clades found in or near freshwater (though not all species seeded were freshwater, in order protect non-freshwater biomes from initial stagnation). The dominant terrestrial vertebrate clades on Littoralis A-B are descendants of amphibious vertebrates chosen specifically to become the dominant clade.
But that's where my current problem stems. I've gotten Littoralis-A's terrestrial vertebrate fauna down (mole salamander descendants), but I'm stumped on Littoralis-B. I've tried climbing gourami descendants, walking catfish descendants, even mudskippers and lungfish. I can't find a satisfactory founding vertebrate. I might try bichirs or caimans, but I feel that'd be too easy. I'm gonna try to get this project out by the end of the month, but it's getting frustrating finding a replacement that's satisfactory.
How about, no v e r t e b r a t e s Sorry
Try lampreys. Not only are they underused in spec, but they are among the basal most vertebrates. This mean your really starting from scratch and your essentially rewriting vertebrate evolution.
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ARTH-6810: A world without vertebrates (It's ded, but you can still read I guess)
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"Considering the lifespans of modern non- insect arthropods (decade-old old millipedes, 50 year old tarantulas, 100+ year old lobsters) I wouldn't be surprised if Arthropleura had a lifespan exceeding that of a large testudine"-HangingTheif
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Inceptis
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Apr 14 2017, 07:39 PM
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I share your dislike of vertebrates. The reef I mentioned still has them, but let's just say that there are "fish" that aren't fish, but still fairly closely related to fish.
Besides, that's one of my three that are still quite behind in development. If I can focus enough, I might get a project up similar to Icthyander's CoZ, but with A. A. Milne including some animals from an island south of Ireland in his most well-known series.
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This was getting fairly big.
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The Hundred Thousand Acre Woods: We're going on an expotition... Roald Island: Snozzwangers and Whangdoodles aplenty(Please don't feed the nerds). The Candleverse: Like The Library, but with candles. Basura: Also like The Library, but with trash and lost things. From Scratch: We all drew monsters as children...
More serious projects Rivun: Qhoths on Rivun, evermore. Pelagia: Earth's mirror twin Calida: Looking to where you first began can reveal what's gone unnoticed. The first exoplanet ever found has a lukewarm sibling... Spyra: Few things are stranger than jellyfish, especially when they apologize. Canto: A planemo carrying the seeds of life is adopted by an elderly red dwarf couple. Music ensues. (?) Methuselah: Much is still in the works, given that life doesn't evolve on a planet.
GD: It shall be revived when I revive it.
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Insect Illuminati Get Shrekt - Archean life boi
Corecin - This is why this timeline is infamous, as it brought back every memory of the 'Jurassic Zebra' thread, and we can never forget about it, we thus nuked the planet and never looked back, turning our sights to other timelines.
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Apr 14 2017, 09:38 PM
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- Insect Illuminati Get Shrekt
- Apr 14 2017, 05:51 PM
- Talenkauen Spec
- Apr 12 2017, 04:21 PM
I've got something I've been working on since January. Some of you may remember it from the final post of my belated and botched April fool's joke, Salamand-Earth. That thread is dead and buried, and I ain't bring it back.
I call it: Project Littoralis
It centers around a series of artificial pocket dimensions, containing planet-sized O'Niell Cylinders (giant spinning terrariums, basically), as well as captured stars and planetoids for energy/resources. The pocket dimensions and cylinders were created by a race of enigmatic dimension-hoppers, as a means to test the possibilities of isolated and assisted evolution. Each cylinder is split into 8 sections, sections devoted to automated functions and resource processing, two for housing custom biospheres (each cylinder gets two biospheres of a similar theme), two poles housing auxiliary a.i components and rotation mechanics, one artificial sun connected to the poles, and an protective outer shell that holds it together, and collects solar energy from the captured stars.
The bioshere sections also contain plasma shielding to keep in the atmosphere and life-forms, as well as a means of artificial continental drift. As mentioned earlier, the life on each cylinder goes by a "theme", with each of the two biospheres within being a take on said theme. There are are worlds dominated certain mammal clades, by birds, by arthropods, by molluscs, by prehistoric reptiles (including non-avian dinosaurs), even creatures from a far off futures or strange alternate timelines. However, this project is focusing on one cylinder in particular: Littoralis. Littoralis's biospheres go by a theme of flora and fauna clades found in or near freshwater (though not all species seeded were freshwater, in order protect non-freshwater biomes from initial stagnation). The dominant terrestrial vertebrate clades on Littoralis A-B are descendants of amphibious vertebrates chosen specifically to become the dominant clade.
But that's where my current problem stems. I've gotten Littoralis-A's terrestrial vertebrate fauna down (mole salamander descendants), but I'm stumped on Littoralis-B. I've tried climbing gourami descendants, walking catfish descendants, even mudskippers and lungfish. I can't find a satisfactory founding vertebrate. I might try bichirs or caimans, but I feel that'd be too easy. I'm gonna try to get this project out by the end of the month, but it's getting frustrating finding a replacement that's satisfactory.
How about, no v e r t e b r a t e s Sorry Try lampreys. Not only are they underused in spec, but they are among the basal most vertebrates. This mean your really starting from scratch and your essentially rewriting vertebrate evolution.
I don't think so. I'm trying to find a simpler, more efficient solution, not a more complex one. Trying to reinvent the wheel with lampreys, would be a lot more difficult than just using a more complex vertebrate. Besides, I'm already looking towards pond turtles and loaches as potential candidates.
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Inceptis: I share your dislike of vertebrates.
I don't. Vertebrates and vertebrate-like forms (even molluscs, to an extent) are my bread and butter. I find arthropods a bit too alien and biologically rigid for my tastes. You'd need high oxygen and/or low gravity for them to achieve the size and dominance vertebrates do naturally. Even then, they still wouldn't be as intelligent.
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Apr 14 2017, 09:59 PM
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I don't think so. I'm trying to find a simpler, more efficient solution, not a more complex one. Trying to reinvent the wheel with lampreys, would be a lot more difficult than just using a more complex vertebrate. Besides, I'm already looking towards pond turtles and loaches as potential candidates. Aww. Well, it was worth a try.
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I don't. Vertebrates and vertebrate-like forms (even molluscs, to an extent) are my bread and butter. I find arthropods a bit too alien and biologically rigid for my tastes. You'd need high oxygen and/or low gravity for them to achieve the size and dominance vertebrates do naturally. Even then, they still wouldn't be as intelligent.
So arthropods are "too alien", yet you like mollusks? I don't see how snails and squid are inherently more likable than crabs and flies. Plus, vertebrates are not "dominant". Nematodes are.
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arthropods a bit too alien and biologically rigid
*Breaks into a burst of uncontrollable laughter*
Edited by IIGSY, Apr 14 2017, 10:01 PM.
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Projects Punga: A terraformed world with no vertebrates Last one crawling: The last arthropod
ARTH-6810: A world without vertebrates (It's ded, but you can still read I guess)
Potential ideas- Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized. Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal. Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents.
Quotes "Arthropod respiratory systems aren't really "inefficient", they're just better suited to their body size. It would be quite inefficient for a tiny creature that can easily get all the oxygen it needs through passive diffusion to have a respiratory system that wastes energy on muscles that pump air into sacs. (Hence why lungless salamanders, uniquely miniscule and hyperabundant tetrapods, have ditched their lungs in favor of breathing with their skin and buccal mucous membranes.) But large, active insects already use muscles to pump air in and out of their spiracles, and I don't see why their tracheae couldn't develop pseudo- lungs if other conditions pressured them to grow larger."-HangingTheif
"Considering the lifespans of modern non- insect arthropods (decade-old old millipedes, 50 year old tarantulas, 100+ year old lobsters) I wouldn't be surprised if Arthropleura had a lifespan exceeding that of a large testudine"-HangingTheif
"Humans have a tribal mindset and it's not alien for tribes to war on each other. I mean, look at the atrocities chimpanzee tribes do to each other. Most of people's groupings and big conflicts in history are directly or obliquely manifestations of this tribal mindset."-Sceynyos-yis
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Apr 14 2017, 10:55 PM
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I don't think so. I'm trying to find a simpler, more efficient solution, not a more complex one. Trying to reinvent the wheel with lampreys, would be a lot more difficult than just using a more complex vertebrate. Besides, I'm already looking towards pond turtles and loaches as potential candidates.
Aww. Well, it was worth a try. - Talenkauen Spec
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I don't. Vertebrates and vertebrate-like forms (even molluscs, to an extent) are my bread and butter. I find arthropods a bit too alien and biologically rigid for my tastes. You'd need high oxygen and/or low gravity for them to achieve the size and dominance vertebrates do naturally. Even then, they still wouldn't be as intelligent.
So arthropods are "too alien", yet you like mollusks? I don't see how snails and squid are inherently more likable than crabs and flies. Plus, vertebrates are not "dominant". Nematodes are. - Talenkauen Spec
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arthropods a bit too alien and biologically rigid *Breaks into a burst of uncontrollable laughter*
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arthropods a bit too alien and biologically rigid
I should have said biomechanically restricted . Heavy exoskeletons, primitive ganglea, and inefficient trachae networks are not conducive to sophisticated megafaunal arthropods. I see my other statement:
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You'd need high oxygen and/or low gravity for them to achieve the size and dominance vertebrates do naturally. Even then, they still wouldn't be as intelligent.
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So arthropods are "too alien", yet you like mollusks? I don't see how snails and squid are inherently more likable than crabs and flies. Plus, vertebrates are not "dominant". Nematodes are.
Molluscs are more vertebrate-like than you think. They lack trachae networks and instead use gills/lungs, have bodies made of leathery/rubbery flesh over chiton exoskeletons, bare a skeleton/partial exoskeleton made of calcium, evolved camera eyes (more than once), and possess more complex brains and intellects.
As for nematodes....... You've got a point there. But, I meant dominant in terms of megafaunal potential, not general number of species.
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Apr 15 2017, 12:25 AM
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I should have said biomechanically restricted . Heavy exoskeletons, primitive ganglea, and inefficient trachae networks are not conducive to sophisticated megafaunal arthropods.
Arthropods actually have pretty well developed nervous systems.
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Molluscs are more vertebrate-like than you think. They lack trachae networks and instead use gills/lungs, have bodies made of leathery/rubbery flesh over chiton exoskeletons, bare a skeleton/partial exoskeleton made of calcium, evolved camera eyes (more than once), and possess more complex brains and intellects . Well, the gills/lungs of mollusks are very different to that vertebrates. And that last point only applies to cephalopods, as most other mollusks are pretty dumb. The average beetle is probably smarter than the average gastropod. But other than that, you make a sound point.
If you think of it, arthropods, mollusks, and vertebrates from a sort of trio of the most "complex" animals. They are also their most specious group in their respective superphyla. Here is a list of convergences between the three.
-The only groups that contain large, active species -The only groups to develop aerial capabilities (remember flying squids) -The only groups that show anything we can call intelligence -The groups with the most well developed, and immediately noticeable eyes -The groups that most thoroughly colonized land (terrestrial nematodes still live in a film of water, so are essential aquatic)
There's probably more that I didn't mention.
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Projects Punga: A terraformed world with no vertebrates Last one crawling: The last arthropod
ARTH-6810: A world without vertebrates (It's ded, but you can still read I guess)
Potential ideas- Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized. Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal. Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents.
Quotes "Arthropod respiratory systems aren't really "inefficient", they're just better suited to their body size. It would be quite inefficient for a tiny creature that can easily get all the oxygen it needs through passive diffusion to have a respiratory system that wastes energy on muscles that pump air into sacs. (Hence why lungless salamanders, uniquely miniscule and hyperabundant tetrapods, have ditched their lungs in favor of breathing with their skin and buccal mucous membranes.) But large, active insects already use muscles to pump air in and out of their spiracles, and I don't see why their tracheae couldn't develop pseudo- lungs if other conditions pressured them to grow larger."-HangingTheif
"Considering the lifespans of modern non- insect arthropods (decade-old old millipedes, 50 year old tarantulas, 100+ year old lobsters) I wouldn't be surprised if Arthropleura had a lifespan exceeding that of a large testudine"-HangingTheif
"Humans have a tribal mindset and it's not alien for tribes to war on each other. I mean, look at the atrocities chimpanzee tribes do to each other. Most of people's groupings and big conflicts in history are directly or obliquely manifestations of this tribal mindset."-Sceynyos-yis
"He's the leader of the bunch You know his Coconut Gun is finally back to fire in spurts. His Coconut Gun Can make you smile If he shoots ya it's firing in spurts. His Coconut Gun Is bigger, faster, stronger too! He's the gun member of the Coconut Crew! HUH!
C.G.! Coconut Gun! C.G.! Co-Coconut Gun! Shoot yourself with a Coconut Gun! HUH!"-Kamineigh
"RIP, rest in Peytoia."-Little
"In Summary: Piss on Lovecraft's racist grave by making lewds of Cthulhu and Nyarlathotep.
Then eat arby's and embrace the void."-Kamineigh
"Dougal Dixon rule 34."-Sayornis
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The higher and more complex up the tree of life you go, the larger the minimum size and less populous the creatures become.
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Apr 15 2017, 02:03 AM
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The higher and more complex up the tree of life you go, the larger the minimum size and less populous the creatures become. "Higher and more complex" is completely arbitrary. Evolution is a shrub, not a ladder. I thought we all knew this by now.
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ARTH-6810: A world without vertebrates (It's ded, but you can still read I guess)
Potential ideas- Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized. Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal. Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents.
Quotes "Arthropod respiratory systems aren't really "inefficient", they're just better suited to their body size. It would be quite inefficient for a tiny creature that can easily get all the oxygen it needs through passive diffusion to have a respiratory system that wastes energy on muscles that pump air into sacs. (Hence why lungless salamanders, uniquely miniscule and hyperabundant tetrapods, have ditched their lungs in favor of breathing with their skin and buccal mucous membranes.) But large, active insects already use muscles to pump air in and out of their spiracles, and I don't see why their tracheae couldn't develop pseudo- lungs if other conditions pressured them to grow larger."-HangingTheif
"Considering the lifespans of modern non- insect arthropods (decade-old old millipedes, 50 year old tarantulas, 100+ year old lobsters) I wouldn't be surprised if Arthropleura had a lifespan exceeding that of a large testudine"-HangingTheif
"Humans have a tribal mindset and it's not alien for tribes to war on each other. I mean, look at the atrocities chimpanzee tribes do to each other. Most of people's groupings and big conflicts in history are directly or obliquely manifestations of this tribal mindset."-Sceynyos-yis
"He's the leader of the bunch You know his Coconut Gun is finally back to fire in spurts. His Coconut Gun Can make you smile If he shoots ya it's firing in spurts. His Coconut Gun Is bigger, faster, stronger too! He's the gun member of the Coconut Crew! HUH!
C.G.! Coconut Gun! C.G.! Co-Coconut Gun! Shoot yourself with a Coconut Gun! HUH!"-Kamineigh
"RIP, rest in Peytoia."-Little
"In Summary: Piss on Lovecraft's racist grave by making lewds of Cthulhu and Nyarlathotep.
Then eat arby's and embrace the void."-Kamineigh
"Dougal Dixon rule 34."-Sayornis
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