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What is Life to you?
Topic Started: Nov 23 2014, 01:50 PM (2,771 Views)
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As Troodon said, imo, the only actual bad words are slurs. Slurs differ from swear words in that while swear words are usually descriptive words or things to say when you're upset or frustrated (like "shit" or "fuck"), slurs are words that are specifically designed to be harmful to a group of people (the other f word and the n word being examples).

Swear words are fine in my book. Slurs are not.
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Nov 23 2014, 11:07 PM
As Troodon said, imo, the only actual bad words are slurs. Slurs differ from swear words in that while swear words are usually descriptive words or things to say when you're upset or frustrated (like "shit" or "fuck"), slurs are words that are specifically designed to be harmful to a group of people (the other f word and the n word being examples).

Swear words are fine in my book. Slurs are not.
Then why are they censored on tv... and yet not on the internet?
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They're censored on television just like why genetalia and breasts are censored, because parents get offended. And we know that that "private parts" aren't bad at all.
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Okay since when did we switch the topic?!
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It depends on what television you are watching.

In the United States the stories and information put on display is typically observed, processed, and regulated by a government organization.
If the braodcaster does not follow their rules they can be fined heavily.

The various words that are censored tend to follow the three categories I already gave.

A good example, which is used often from what I can tell, is that you can say "pussy" in reference to a cat without censorship but if you say "pussy" in reference to genitalia you will be fined.
This is because the word falls under the culturally undesirable idea.
Genitalia having been considered something to keep hidden and stay "hush-hush" about whenever that particular regulation was put in place.




We switched topic when you began discussion of what qualifies as a bad word.
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At last, now I know!

And knowing makes it even more confusing!
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Nov 24 2014, 12:02 AM
At last, now I know!

And knowing makes it even more confusing!
It's not really that confusing when you remember that the world isn't black and white morally, and that just because society says something is "bad" doesn't necessarily mean it is.

Words can only be bad if they're being used with the express purpose of being harmful. Hence, swear words aren't "bad" words because they're usually harmless, whilst slurs are bad because they are harmful and often perpetuate harmful ideas.
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Nov 24 2014, 12:02 AM
At last, now I know!

And knowing makes it even more confusing!
It's not really that confusing when you remember that the world isn't black and white morally, and that just because society says something is "bad" doesn't necessarily mean it is.

Words can only be bad if they're being used with the express purpose of being harmful. Hence, swear words aren't "bad" words because they're usually harmless, whilst slurs are bad because they are harmful and often perpetuate harmful ideas.
Then it's ok for kids to say them to?
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Avoiding/ignoring isn't my thing because we have tests on school which make you look at the problems in the world and know what's happening.
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Nov 24 2014, 01:36 AM
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Nov 24 2014, 01:12 AM
Troy Troodon
Nov 24 2014, 12:02 AM
At last, now I know!

And knowing makes it even more confusing!
It's not really that confusing when you remember that the world isn't black and white morally, and that just because society says something is "bad" doesn't necessarily mean it is.

Words can only be bad if they're being used with the express purpose of being harmful. Hence, swear words aren't "bad" words because they're usually harmless, whilst slurs are bad because they are harmful and often perpetuate harmful ideas.
Then it's ok for kids to say them to?
Depends, are they gonna get slapped in the mouth if they do?

What is okay and not okay for a child to do is up to their guardian within reason.
Often language selection such as that is done to instill a form of behavioral respect in a young person.
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Life to me is probably the most beautiful and most complex pieces of chaos i have ever seen, and can never even hope to imagine anything more spectacular than it. Despite its wonders and beauty, it seems that most of the populace does not care or is literally blind to it, I often wish that i could live in a world uncorrupted, one where everyone understands the majesty of the world, one where the World has become paradise thanks to the fact that everyone actually decided to give a damn.
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Profanity is an ancient pre-third millenium hangover... it's a concept...

Western society was way less prudish in Shakespeare's day, and right up to Victorian times...

The whole concept of "profanity" is wrapped up in Judeo-Christian mythology...

As for how f--ked up the world is? I made the mistake a few weeks ago of reading Noam Chomsky's "How The World Works" - it was eye opening and VERY depressing! Couldn't sleep for days and was raging inside at how f--ked up the world is, all for the benefit of a few people...

It's quite depressing to have been hopeful and optimistic that a better world awaited, when I was in my 20s... 30+ years later and things are probably worse, there was something to be said for the stalemate of the Cold War... kept the nutters in check.

But ya gotta move on and live and earn a crust, so life goes on!

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Nov 23 2014, 11:07 PM
As Troodon said, imo, the only actual bad words are slurs. Slurs differ from swear words in that while swear words are usually descriptive words or things to say when you're upset or frustrated (like "shit" or "fuck"), slurs are words that are specifically designed to be harmful to a group of people (the other f word and the n word being examples).

Swear words are fine in my book. Slurs are not.
Agreed. But it's not just different words, it can be the same word used in a different context or definition. For example, "shit" as in "shit that hurt" is just a curse. "shit" as in "you smell like shit" is a slur.
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Nov 23 2014, 10:14 PM
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Nov 23 2014, 09:53 PM
"Life is short and sadistic, so make love to it like a one-eyed double agent."
So basically, have sex with life as if you were Nick Fury on a mission. Got it.

As for the "bad" words, I actually watched a really interesting video about that. Basically, go back to medieval Europe, back when whether you were super rich and lived in a castle or whether you were so poor you literally lived in a house made of dung and grass was still an important thing.

Back then, the separation of the classes was so effective, it affected language. The rich had their own words and slang, as did the poor.

Thing is, a lot of the poor people's slang had to do with how much life sucked for them, meaning that there were many different ways of saying "Hey, Paul, can you pass me the bucket of dung?"

Naturally, being rich and all about cleanliness, rich people wanted absolutely nothing to do with dung, or any of the words for it. So they marked almost any slang exclusive to the lower classes as "bad words" that were not to be spoken in polite (read "rich") society.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why little kids get in trouble when they say things like "crap" or "shit."

Because a bunch of super rich people hundreds of years ago decided they didn't want to hear any more servants complaining about their houses made of shit.
I rather doubt that myself, in the past English swearing was more sacrilegious than modern sexual/scatological swearing. Gods Hooks! (minced into gadzooks) God's Wounds! (minced into zounds).

Anyway, the only thing that truly prevents my reaching inner peace is the eternal conflict over naming. I had when someone stupidly misspells something to make it "cool" like tumblr or hudl, but I also hate when something has the exact same name as what I want to learn about, like the band Mastodon or Jaguar cars.

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Anyway, the only thing that truly prevents my reaching inner peace is the eternal conflict over naming. I had when someone stupidly misspells something to make it "cool" like tumblr or hudl, but I also hate when something has the exact same name as what I want to learn about, like the band Mastodon or Jaguar cars.

The struggle never ends.
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