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| Topic Started: Nov 6 2014, 06:54 PM (33,383 Views) | |
| LittleLazyLass | Nov 6 2014, 06:54 PM Post #1 |
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So I've been wanting to create this for awhile and I'm finally doing this. This is a thread for random species ideas you have that don't fit into any actual project. This will help save topics, and could be used as a place for people to dump vague ideas so others can help with them, or so they have them for latter. You don't have to have an actual species explained, just a vague concept that could be expanded on. |
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| Velociraptor | Nov 7 2014, 03:15 PM Post #2 |
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I once had an idea for a sapient azhdarchid that walked on its wings and had evolved its hind limbs into hands, it sort of looked like Sheatherian swiftlets, but I had this idea before I read Sheatheria, so the resemblance is purely coincidental. |
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| Archeoraptor | Nov 16 2014, 04:47 PM Post #3 |
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"A living paradox"
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Fully hervivorous dogs and it was also one of my first ideas |
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Astarte an alt eocene world,now on long hiatus but you never know Fanauraa; The rebirth of Aotearoa future evo set in new zealand after a mass extinction coming soon......a world that was seeded with earth´s weridest and who knows what is coming next........... " I have to know what the world will be looking throw a future beyond us I have to know what could have been if fate acted in another way I have to know what lies on the unknown universe I have to know that the laws of thee universe can be broken throw The Spec I gain strength to the inner peace the is not good of evil only nature and change,the evolution of all livings beings" " Spoiler: click to toggle | |
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| xaritscin | Nov 30 2014, 10:58 PM Post #4 |
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fully acuatic sloths, kinda like water horses or something |
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| LittleLazyLass | Dec 1 2014, 04:44 PM Post #5 |
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I might as well mention a scrapped idea of mine about small, agile, ornithopod like therizinosaurs. The main drive this was that therizinosaurs have pneumatic bones, whereas ornithopods aren't. This could lead somewhere, perhaps. |
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| Scrublord | Dec 1 2014, 04:50 PM Post #6 |
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Father Pellegrini
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So, like a pterosaur version of the Nightstalker? |
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| Dragonthunders | Dec 6 2014, 09:07 AM Post #7 |
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The ethereal archosaur in blue
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a species of organism as a plant or fungus, which is similar to the tumbleweed, which is transported to the wind using its branches and leaves. when is an oasis or is near a body of water, uses its roots as well harpoons to stop and settle near the water body.
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| LittleLazyLass | Dec 6 2014, 11:28 AM Post #8 |
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Not what you mean I asume, but perhaps wind driven plants like these could actually lead to mobile plants? Without a firm setting in roots, some mobility would perhaps help in finding a spot by a body of water, since wind won't get you to the perfect spot most of the time. This could eventually be used for other things. Of course, this would be in early forms like these just being able to somewhat move the roots to slightly move the body but mostly just reaching with roots. |
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| Caimännir | Dec 6 2014, 07:10 PM Post #9 |
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Maybe they could somehow detect which direction had more water, then strategically grow leaves and roots to alter their shape and catch the wind in different ways so their path would lead more towards the water. |
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| colddigger | Dec 9 2014, 05:07 PM Post #10 |
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Joke's over! Love, Parasky
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Not so much a species idea as an insulation idea. I do not know how feathers entirely work. But this is based on the thought of them. A live growth from the flesh supported by a keratin structure, like a thick hair. The growth is rich in capillaries, however blood flow is typically restricted to minimal so the structure may aid in retention of heat. If the body is too warm blood flow is increased in the structure, drawing heat out of the body and releasing it into the environment as air passes across the large surface area of the collective structures. |
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| LittleLazyLass | Dec 30 2014, 04:19 PM Post #11 |
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I might as well post some of the old Story of Life creatures, with some fixes here and there, and some notes. Derbia The derbia, or great eland, scientifically known as Taurolophus ("Bull Crest") is a taxon of Calducene[1] bovine descended from the giant eland. Larger then it's ancestor, it prefers patchy or semi-open forest over dense trees or open savannah. They are the largest antelope, ever. They are generalised borwsers, however they mostly eat from mid-hight levels. They are far more widespread and successful then their ancestors where, being present from tip to tip on Africa's forests and savannahs, only restricted by the expansive jungles. The name "derbia" is probably a corruption or shorter version of "derbianus", the specific name of the giant eland. They are larger then their ancestors, being the largest known "antelope" ever, at a whopping 351cm, on average. 4m individuals have been recorded, and very rarely near 5m can be reached. This size is accompanied by weight, and they can reach over 1000kg in a healthy individual. Individuals born and raised further south are generally larger, and those raised in the north, such as the Saharan population, are somewhat smaller. They can live up to 40 years in the wild. Color can vary, and individuals in different habitats generally have a modified coloration. The southern taxon[2], in the Kalahari, are the characteristic deep, red-brown color of modern elands. The males have a dark patch on their front half varying in size, which may reflect hormones or health. The stripes are a dirty white or whitish-beige color, and there are 16-20 of these. The year round residents of the east African coast have a lighter brown to dark beige color, with up to 27 clearly defined, white stripes. The Saharan taxon has a light beige, similar to that of the extinct adax, with around 15 also defined grey to white stripes. These can mix and overlap in the population boundaries, edges, and overlaps. The rare Black Derbia of the Northern Nile around Egypt are by-far the smallest, being slightly smaller then their modern ancestors, and despite having stripes, the lines are indistinguishable from the pelt for the most part[3]. Their mane has gotten bigger, particularly in males, and the females sport a one not unlike that of today's males. The male mane is long, tangled and dark, and occupies the majority of the neck, shoulders, and along some of the back and chest. The horns are also bigger, being the same spiraled V at first, aldo bigger compared to body size, and then become slightly less spiraled and point downwards. In some males these horns can touch the back. The females horns are more modest. Like their ancestors, the derbia are social, perhaps more so. The giant southern populations are similar in social behaviour to modern giant elands. With small herds of females and juveniles occasionally accompanied by the occasional male, who is usually solitary. The east coast populations are generally more social, with males generally traveling with the herd, thought the females generally outnumber the males, who can still be somewhat solitary. These herds are also far larger, with over 100 individuals not uncommon, and over 500 recorded at least once. The northern populations are also fairly solitary, perhaps more so then modern elands. As with modern giant elands, this herding behaviour is driven by sociality, not ecological needs, and a female won't abandon the herd in hard times. They are browsers, thought grass makes up around 30-40% of their diet . They are more specifically mid-level browsers, preferring certain plant "species" over others, these favorites can vary between individuals, but in general are taller plants. They like to live in patchy and semi-open forests, yet this also varies between the three main populations. The southern population prefers the thickest forest, and lowest trees of the four (Thought they certainly won't hesitate to eat higher foods.), and have a taste for certain acacias. They also have much less grass in their diet. The eastern coast individuals will go out in much more open habitat, and will travel over treeless savannah to find food pockets. They are not picky about their food, and will generally eat any safe tree or shrub that they find, as well as eating more grass then other populations. The saharan individuals prefer mid browsing heights, and are in middle ground in terms of habitat preference. The black derbia is actually almost 50% grazer. Living in the Calducene and, to a lesser extent, Parvuscene, they evolved after the thermal maximum hit, as did the rest of their distinctive characters. The most likely evolved somewhere in the east coast populations range, as although the south individuals are more like modern eland, they appear to have evolved alongside the imberlis[4], and plains eland, who also evolved here. The mid browsing heights where probably to niche partion with these species, which eat the grass, low-level browsing, and high-level browsing respectively. The southern individuals evolved a lower browsing hight in the absence of the imberlis. These first individuals probably appeared from 1.5 to 2.2 myf, either in the late Holocene or very early Calducene, and spread across Africa fast as other animal populations recovered from the thermal maximum. Although larger then modern giant eland, these would still not reach the huge sizes of the largest Derbia for another million or so years. Over time the three populations diverged, with the saharan and black/egyptian populations ancestors existing somewhere along the north of the east populations range or along the Nile after diverging early in the evolution of this taxon[5], with the two more south populations diverging 10-30 thousand years later[6]. The population differences that are discussed above evolved gradually over time as they diverged, all from a common ancestor not quite like any of the three of these kinds. Phannac The Phennac is a larger descendent of Fennec foxes, they have some modified teeth in the middle of the mouth, which allow a more omnivorous diet, though grasses are still inedible. It's name is a corruption of "Fennec"[7]. They are fair-sized by canid standards, and the larger than any modern fox. The average adult size is 151cm-174cm long, though the largest can reach 228cm. They grow up to 42cm-64cm on average[8], and can weigh up to 50kg in the largest individuals. There is little sexual dimorphism. Their coloration is far darker then their ancestors, being mostly a dark brown color, with a lighter beige to white belly, feet, and certain parts of face. Certain populations also show more complex facial markings, stripes, or spots, among other features. Melanism is actually quite common in this taxon, although albinism is less so. Despite knowledge being known from captive individuals, there a multiple unique things about fennec fox behaviour, and these have carried on to the Phennac. One of these is the playful nature, which continues into adulthood, and these playful activities with surrounding objects had led to a higher intilligence, perhaps being smarter then modern domestic dogs in some ways. The are also the most social fox, and seeing up to five females together isn't uncommon. Males will also occasionally travel with the females[9]. Mountain Gazelle The Mountain Gazelle, Petrananger, is a taxon of gazelle adapted to live in temperate climate, descended from Grant's Gazelle (Nanger granti). They are found in various mountains ranges in Africa, south of the Sahara, such as the Atlas Mountains[10]. Mountain gazelle are generally not larger then their ancestors, unlike other megafauna of the future. Males stand about 83cm, females about 71cm high and weighing around 48kg, thought there is considerable variation between populations (such as the dwarf "blue rock gazelle" populations to the West). An adaptation they have is a somewhat thick and very soft coat. It has a somewhat bulkier body and shorter legs than it's ancestors, but is still considerably fast. They also slightly thicker noses, and hooves adapted to travel mountainous terrain. A similarity it does share with it's ancestors is the spiraled-curved horns, absent in females, and similar in size to modern grant gazelles in males. They are opportunistic herbivores, feeding mostly on browse, and rarely eating grass or water plants. Insular Wagtail[11] The insular wagtail is a species descended from the White Wagtail. It is one of few cases where a migratory animal has become a year-round resident. It is larger then it's ancestors, around 5kg and 31cm long on average, a less competent flier, being nearly flightless, and has had changes in behavior and diet. This most prominently includes its ties to water, as it spends most time on beaches and near more inland sources, and its diet is mainly composed of aquatic insects, crustaceans, fish, amphibians, and other small water creatures. All these adaptations probably came from insular environments. It is native to most of the islands[12], save for some of the more isolated ones, and may be native to the mainland as well, thought these could be vagrants. It also seems to have a minor symbiotic relationship with the Dwarf Bearded Pig[13], eating insects off of them, and traveling with them in return for protection. It has a white head, and body composed of a mix of different browns. There might be some sexual dimorphism, with males being around 2kg heavier on average, and having a black cap. Oddly enough, the males also show more symbiocity with the pigs. On rare occurrences when Insular Wagtails occur on the mainland, they don't seem to take part in any symbiotic behavior with the mainland pigs, perhaps indicating a more complex bond with Dwarf Bearded pigs then one would think. In the future, Malaysia was one of the few areas to retain its general form. However, it is now isolated, and indian currents have caused it to dry, with scrub forests being the dominant habitat over much of the island, and the smaller islands that surround it. This island is far small then the peninsula we know, with the north being an isle similar in shape to the modern country, but the south being a chain of very small islands. Sumatra has been affected rather differently then Malaysia, instead becoming more like the Philippines, Japan, or a scaled up Galapagos, in that is a true archipelago. It is made up of multiple mid-sized or small major islands, which have has a similar Climate change to Malaysia[14]. Bush Deer Bush deer, also known as weed deer (Not to be confused with deer weed.), and brush deer, scientifically known as the Calidaviriditasini[15] (“Warm weed', because weeds make up a large part of their diet.), is a group of cervids that are very successful in Calducene Europe. They rarely leaves the forest, preferring to stay in thick bushes and trees, hence the name. They are highly generalist in diet, eating weeds, roots, berries, etc. They are quite diverse, having several taxa, caused by the mass separation of Europe land caused by world flooding in the Calducene[16]. They live roughly3-11 Myf, and are evolved from fallow deer. They are small, and short, adaptation for moving in the bush, and thick forest (ironic for a close relative of the Irish elk). Many species never reach more then a meter long, and 0.6m tall, but the larger ones are up to 2.6 m long , and 1m tall, with proportions on height vs length evidently varying somewhat. They also have small antlers, which are not as variable a some other cervids, partly due to stub like size. These antlers still have the flat shape of the fallow deer (at least in most species). Their colour is often drab, usually brown, black, or beige, and there is little colour variation within one populations. Their legs are short, as they don't do much running, and their necks are short, reducing overall body size. The are descended from the fallow deer. As the world became warmer, Europe became even more forested. This happened because forests favor warm, wet habitats, and grasslands flavor drier habitats where there aren't forests[17]. This led the fallow deer to become more adapted to a forest environment. They then diversified, as Europe is separated into many different islands[18] in the Calducene, and then they island hopped, diversifying into different populations on the different islands. They are quite shy, hiding from predators rather then running, as they have short legs, and can easily fit into the undergrowth or even sometimes forest floor. They live in groups, not large enough to be considered “Herds”. These are lead by a male, and contain lesser males and females. Interestingly, their ranking system is more complex then that of fallow deer. They are not very aggressive, and fights are mostly show. They are generalist, eating many types of plants, however they prefer mostly weeds, roots, tubers, berries, and the leaves of bushes. However, they also readily eat ferns, grasses, shrubs, nuts, and sometimes various other plants. Diet does have significant variation between populations, with individuals of Exteriuscervos (“Exterior deer”) generally sticking plants that grow on the edge of the forest, while Microcervus (“Tiny deer”) stay deeper in the forest. Eucervus[19] Revamp! As I've gotten a better handle on Eucervians, the original tribe is being kept, but only in name; which is the case with predy-much everything about Bush deer. The "Exteriuscervus" species group is being renamed Eucervus ("New Deer", also double meaning for "European Deer"[20]), and only three species are being kept (With further possible future additions.); all being renamed: -E. gladiator (E. litus)[21] -E. hiberus (E. maxima) -E. olympius (E. australi) Eucervus refers to it being the first example of Eucervian[22] feutures being more obvious. These features are[23]; Much less plastic horns, smaller brains, more robust build, "more" endothermic (Hard to explain.)[24], shorter build, robust build, adaptations for more arid climates, preference for semi-high/highland altitudes. E. gladiator is similar in physical appearence to E. litus; Dark brown to black body, white head/neck, large, vertical horns with disc shaped prong (at top), smaller "stub" prong further down, etc[25]. However, it is different in multiple ways; Actually (Ironically.) the smallest (Current) speices, being a dwarf[26] (As France is actually a small/mid size island in south, archpelago in south; Yes, north subspecies are smaller.[27]), is widespread across France, also present in a small range in the alps, slight difference in horn shape, among some other things. E. hiberus is really only similar to E. maxima in range, it's different in almost all other ways. Colour patterns/horn shape are far more "showy", and it is the largest species (Current, agian Ironic.[28]); is mostly brown and white (On top and bottom respectively.) on body, with golden, white, and grey patterns on neck/shoulders/head (Mostly gold.), among other things[29]. It also varies in non-physical ways; Is present across Iberia, however is more common inland, also present on some close islands, among other things. E. olympius is fairly moderate in size, and is again native to Greece for most of the population, but also present in Italy (In numbers.). It is also quite unique however (Compared to the old species.); Technically drab[30], but in a different way; brown at back rear of body, many different shades of grey in a stripe pattern, with white mostly taking over on the head, horns point backward more-so then other species, with prongs similar to other species, a bit larger then E. gladiator in size on average. I think I might have a few more of the better ones and some preliminary concepts on my old computer, if you guys want to see them, as well as a group called "Devil Monkeys" deleted at the old wiki, if you'd undelete them briefly for me Admantus. [1] 2-11 Myh, after a large thermal maximum hit. [2] Think of "species" or population, thought as species are paraphyletic assemblage on evolutionary scale I prefer to stick to the word taxon. [3] The black derbia was a later addition to the project not in the original draft of this text. [4] A fairly large high browsing bovid. I might still have some infomation on it somewhere. [5] The Sahara here is mostly savannah, particular in what is today Algeria/Morocco. [6] From themselves, I don't mean to say they split from the northern populations. [7] Which is my excuse for me not having a good name idea and having played Pokemon Colosseum recently at the time. [8] Not sure why I gave two sizes. I presume the second measurement refers to a certain part of the animal. [9] Yeah, it seems I went all out with make stuff intelligent for no reason syndrome on this thing. [10] This was originally a completely different species for a different project by a different person, but after he abandoned it I basically completely revised it. It was originally a North American species descended from feral Thomson's Gazelle's IIRC. [11] This was partly taken out of context from a larger page, since the paragraph was to long (I had this entire species as one big wall of text, essentially the same as the current version, which is why there are references to stuff not here. [12] Lives in the Indonesian Archipelago, keeping in mind that sea levels have risen. [13] Basically what you'd expect it to be. Has a thicker beard, but mostly similar modern Bornean ones. [14] Loking back this last paragraph was fairly unrelated... take it as it's range. [15] From the future taxon Calidaviriditas [16] At the time I had Europe a lot more split up then really plausible. Most of the North coast is wetlands/small islands, and Italy has seperated. Britain is a true archipelago and Mainland Scandinavia is isolated. [17] So I overgeneralized quite a bit here. The main point stands. [18] Again, this is a bit exagerated. [19] This one was a comment explained a re-done Exteriuscervus later in the project, when Bush Deer were beings re-done. Being done is an update rather then text format, I'll leave just leave this as an out of context, unchanged one besides grammar fixes. [20] Did change this. Just re-wording. [21] The three in brackets are three of several of the original bush deer species. None were thought out well originally, so I won't bother posting the specifics for bush deer; I should've just left the bush deer as they were originally without expanding or revamping. [22] Tired of these notes yet? Well I'm tired of being so bad at writing back then... anyway, Eucervia is basically a very expanded replacement for Calidaviriditasini. [23] This refers to all of Eucervia, although basal taxa lack these features somewhat [24] I guess I meant a higher metabolism? If anything they'd have lower metabolisms... anyway, I think I planned for Eucervia to basically take over most artiodactyl niches. [25] Keep in mind individual variation. [26] E. litus was originally the largest. Anyone happen to know what I might've been referring to with the specific name "litus" anyway? [27] Wait, what? What was I saying here?! It's connected to the main European island in the South, and is series of Delta's, coastal waters, and small islands in the North [28] I think it was the dwarf originally [29] Account for individual variation. [30] What?! |
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| ALovePuppy | Jan 2 2015, 01:17 PM Post #12 |
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Semi-aquatic marine panthera |
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| flashman63 | Jan 6 2015, 06:23 PM Post #13 |
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Chameleons in Madagascar occupying the niche of Lemurs- and then Gorillas/ Groundsloths/ Giant Lemurs. Developing big claws to pull down trees... hmm... didn't the Deathclaw descend from Jackson's Chameleon? |
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| Ànraich | Jan 9 2015, 10:20 PM Post #14 |
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Love this idea, what a great thread. Here's some of mine that I do intend to work on at some point but do not belong in any particular project. Feel free to do your own interpretation of any of them if any particular one inspires you, just make sure to credit me somehow if you post it on deviantart or whatever.
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We should all aspire to die surrounded by our dearest friends. Just like Julius Caesar. "The Lord Universe said: 'The same fate I have given to all things from stones to stars, that one day they shall become naught but memories aloft upon the winds of time. From dust all was born, and to dust all shall return.' He then looked upon His greatest creation, life, and pitied them, for unlike stars and stones they would soon learn of this fate and despair in the futility of their own existence. And so the Lord Universe decided to give life two gifts to save them from this despair. The first of these gifts was the soul, that life might more readily accept their fate, and the second was fear, that they might in time learn to avoid it altogether." - Excerpt from a Chanagwan creation myth, Legends and Folklore of the Planet Ghar, collected and published by Yieju Bai'an, explorer from the Celestial Commonwealth of Qonming Tree That Owns Itself
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| LittleLazyLass | Jan 10 2015, 07:16 AM Post #15 |
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Here's a few I've been meaning to work on. -No K-Pg, a flightless tapejarid, with a large gut for digesting plants, powerful arm and leg muscles for running, and a tail for balance and stability when running. So kind of killing to niche of an antelope. -Free swimming bivalves; I've already thought this one out mostly, I've just been lazy with doing it. -Aquatic Velvet Worms; I have a few things figured out, but still mostly a preliminary concept. -Colonial alien parasites. -Nilgai taking niche of extinct equidae, near future. |
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