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Flora/Fauna Suggestions; For all your suggesting needs!
Topic Started: Oct 4 2014, 02:29 PM (4,016 Views)
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You can suggest lineages that weren't mentioned on the flora/fauna topic here.

Remember, be realistic with what can be present on the island. Also watch out for things that might swim/fly away from the island.
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You can work with Drosera http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drosera
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I am working on list of flora that would have been present at the start and the interchanges that might be of some use to people but it is slow going. Also remember, plants can come in at other points as well as animals - they can blow over, wash up or arrive in/with animals.

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galliformes could have some interesting species


Maybe some quail (Coturnix coturnix) could end up there, lost on their migration. If you really wanted galliformes they'd be a realistic candidate given their migration and the location of the island.

However there will be rails on the island anyway that you could use instead?

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I think geckos could probably make it to the islands via rafting.
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I think geckos could probably make it to the islands via rafting.
Personally I think this archipelago might be better if instead of squamates, they had a unique group that filled the same niche; maybe the Rhynchocephalians or maybe Procolophonoidea (still wanting them), or both.
The distance also seems like a little bit of a stretch; while geckos may have reached New Zealand and Madagascar, these islands are much further from another landmass than either of those two.

Nothing against geckos, they are undoubtedly best squamates, but this is just my opinion (unless of course it's implausible because it's apparently not an unreasonable distance or perhaps they could have been present on India or something).

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Maybe some quail (Coturnix coturnix) could end up there, lost on their migration. If you really wanted galliformes they'd be a realistic candidate given their migration and the location of the island.

However there will be rails on the island anyway that you could use instead?


Galliformes seem to be very bad at reaching oceanic islands for some reason; rails on the other hand seem to be the complete opposite, so I'd highly recommend using them instead.
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Let's not just flood the island with everything. This is supposed to be about relict beasts that should've been long extinct after all.

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Personally I think this archipelago might be better if instead of squamates, they had a unique group that filled the same niche; maybe the Rhynchocephalians or maybe Procolophonoidea (still wanting them), or both.


Agreed and agreed.
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Galliformes seem to be very bad at reaching oceanic islands for some reason;


In general they are heavy bodied, short winged birds that can only fly short distances at a time (unlike rails which aren't amazing fliers but can fly for quite a long time). That's why I suggested Coturnix coturnix, as it is a long-distance migrant that could feasibly be blown into the area from Africa. However I'm not especially set on having galliformes on the island, they aren't typical of oceanic island avifauna (where they cannot island hop anyway).
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What about galliform-like rails?
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They are possibilities for caiman fishes? they are very ancient,also lungfish can be here too
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They are possibilities for caiman fishes?

Caiman fishes?

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lungfish can be here too

That's probably already the case.

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I suggest for the graslands deer like dichobunids and pig-like pakicetus descendant

As martiitram said, archaeocetes weren't accepted.
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Caiman fish could be an alligator, or an alligator gar (Atractosteus spp.)?

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Garfish would probably be present. Alligator gars however, are probably not going to be present due to the fact that they are in the Americas.

An interesting notion was brought up in the skype chat last night about mega herbs inhabiting the island. I personally think it would be cool, mainly because of the fact that the island is in close proximity to some other subantarctic islands, and mega herbs themselves are pretty interesting.
Projects and concepts that I have stewing around
Extended Pleistocene- An alternate future where man died out, and the megafauna would continue to thrive (may or may not include a bit about certain future sapients)
Inverted World- An alternate timeline where an asteroid hit during the Barremian, causing an extinction event before the Maastrichtian. Dinosaurs, pterosaurs, and notosuchians make it to the present, along with a host of other animals.
Badania- Alien planet that has life at a devonian stage of development, except it exists in the present day.
Ido- Alien world where hoppers (derived flightless ballonts) and mouthpart-legged beasts are prevalent.
Leto- Life on a moon orbiting a gas giant with an erratic orbit; experiences extremes of hot and cold.
The Park- ???
Deeper Impact- a world where the K-Pg extinction wipes out crocodilians, mammals, and birds; squamates, choristoderes, and turtles inherit the earth.
World of Equal Opportunity- alternate history where denisovans come across Beringia and interact with native fauna. Much of the Pleistocene fauna survives, and the modern humans that end up crossing into North America do not overhunt the existing animals. 10,000 years later, civilizations exist that are on par with European and Asian societies.
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Speaking of plants, what sort of fruit-bearing plants would be on the islands?
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There would probably be some fleshy seeded plants descended from things like seed ferns, cycads and conifers. Angiosperms from the island would probably be vagrants from the Cretaceous and various periods throughout the Cenozoic, like the mega herbs and coconut palms.
Projects and concepts that I have stewing around
Extended Pleistocene- An alternate future where man died out, and the megafauna would continue to thrive (may or may not include a bit about certain future sapients)
Inverted World- An alternate timeline where an asteroid hit during the Barremian, causing an extinction event before the Maastrichtian. Dinosaurs, pterosaurs, and notosuchians make it to the present, along with a host of other animals.
Badania- Alien planet that has life at a devonian stage of development, except it exists in the present day.
Ido- Alien world where hoppers (derived flightless ballonts) and mouthpart-legged beasts are prevalent.
Leto- Life on a moon orbiting a gas giant with an erratic orbit; experiences extremes of hot and cold.
The Park- ???
Deeper Impact- a world where the K-Pg extinction wipes out crocodilians, mammals, and birds; squamates, choristoderes, and turtles inherit the earth.
World of Equal Opportunity- alternate history where denisovans come across Beringia and interact with native fauna. Much of the Pleistocene fauna survives, and the modern humans that end up crossing into North America do not overhunt the existing animals. 10,000 years later, civilizations exist that are on par with European and Asian societies.
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Let's not just flood the island with everything. This is supposed to be about relict beasts that should've been long extinct after all.


I was expecting "fauna suggestions" to mean a few groups. Not more than the original list itself.
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