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Finalizing the Island; Do not post threads in this subforum just yet.
Topic Started: Sep 28 2014, 04:15 PM (1,816 Views)
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Alright, we're this close to beginning this shibang, this thread will decide the details of this project and render them official and more or less unchangeable (minus a few details).

- The island(s) originally split from Southeastern Pangaea during the end of the Anisian (approximately 242MYA) along a stretch of the Tethys Sea, as seen here (http://i.imgur.com/AVnJTLR.png).

- The main immigration events to this/these island(s) happened during the Mid Triassic (Southern Pangaea), Jurassic and Early Eocene (India); flying and marine animals from any time after the Mid Triassic were capable of immigrating at any point since then.

- The island(s) have a rough surface area of around 82 000 square kilometres (a bit larger than Hațeg Island), allowing for animals exceeding one metric ton.

- The island(s) is/are presently located in the Indian Ocean, closer to Africa than Australia, and closer to Antarctica than Asia.

- The overall climate of the island(s) is subtropical to temperate, not unlike New Zealand.

Now those are the characteristics of the island that have been more or less decided (some of it just by me), any of it that you think need to be changed should be said in the comments belong.




Now there are a few more things to decide: the time (Early, Mid, Late) and location (Africa or Asia) of the Jurassic Immigration Event and the type of island.

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Remember, the types of islands:

Island A

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Island A: Your typical lost island. One large island, a few tiny ones along its coast mainly there just for aesthetics. Nothing particularly special, and all the fauna and flora will have a chance to interact, with few barriers. Very simple in form and the basic.


Island B

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Island B: A small archipelago. One distinct large island and two or three smaller ones. Allows for relatively distinct wildlife for each island and thus a larger diversity of life but keeps it uncomplicated.


Island C

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Island C: A large archipelago. Lots of islands, both large and small. No real distinct "main" island. Unique wildlife and possibly microclimates across each island. Much more complicated.


Island D

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Island D: Worn down island. Very similar to Island A, but probably more diverse and messed up biomes (more specifically it means the biomes themselves will be smaller individually but more spread out). Also potentially aesthetically pleasing.


These will also be the island(s)' appearance unless someone has a suggestion/recommendation for the island(s) shape.




Please comment your opinions/choices on as much as possible and the reasons for them below.
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I do like island C because of the opportunities for distinct island climates and fauna to speculate upon.

I like Late Jurassic.

I'd like to participate.
Edited by Adman, Sep 28 2014, 04:22 PM.
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I want to participate.Also, I vote for an island C type.Same reasons as Admantus.
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My island(s) of preference remains C.
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I vote for D, Africa, and late.
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I think we should go with Late Jurassic of Africa. It allows for far more possibilities for creatures, most notably the dryosaurs.

I think island B. It still has large islands and the fauna fairly mixed together, unlike C, but does have the separate islands unlike A and D, giving it the most potential.
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Also, I vote for the Jurassic interchange to be in the early Jurassic Africa.
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I like B, for the same reason as Myo. I also like Late Early Jurassic Africa
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Personally I prefer Early Jurassic Africa, because prosauropods and all those other non-conventional dinosaurs (as seen in the Elliot Formation).
Dryosaurs? We don't need dryosaurs when we have Lesothosaurus!
You have to remember that this island(s) can only sustain so much life, and that much of those Late Jurassic "possibilities" won't make it into the project.

I'm also not so sure about Asian Jurassic immigration now that I remember the Tethys would have separated the island from Asia by a large distance.
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I know. I was thinking some stegosaurs, comsugnathids, dryosaurs, dwarf diplodocids, paravians, maybe another group.

Factor in that some of these would go extinct and it's seems a good balance.
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I quite like B myself, a chance for extra isolation without it being the norm as in C.

And after much deliberation, I've settled on early Jurassic Africa, for the similar reasons to Troll Man, the fauna is less conventional and I think might be better to work with than the more derived species from the late Jurassic. Why not Asia? Because there's a great huge ocean in the way that looks a bit too big for species to plausibly cross for my liking.
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Perdido has stegosaurs and compsognathids (I don't think Africa has any known compsognathids) and I think you agree that we want to get as far from Perdido as possible. Dryosaurs could easily be replaced with Lesothosaurus and to a lesser extent heterodontosaurs. Diplodocids with prosauropods and basal sauropods. And paravians... well maybe it'd be good to not have any, would make it different; besides, basal birds could just fly to the island(s) later.
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And as for predators we can have predatory heterodontosaurs and coelophysoids descendants.
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Possibly, but don't hold your breath, we got a lot of potential predators and only some of them will make it in.
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Dilophosaurs anyone? Also keep in mind there are still predators from the Triassic (are we just gonna imagine the extinction events don't affect the island(s)?).
Edited by LittleLazyLass, Sep 28 2014, 05:16 PM.
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