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Jurassic Park IV
Topic Started: Jun 3 2012, 08:20 PM (3,228 Views)
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EVERYTHING IS BETTER WITH DINOSAURS.


Does anybody remember that tv show dino riders? That was incredible. I am up for a live action version of that!
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Sounds familiar... But then again, there were also "Spider Rider" and "Dragon Rider" TV shows.
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You know what could use a remake. Gwangi! Cowboys and dinosaurs!
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Ok, I just noticed something; the peeps made the dinosaurs with African clawed frogs, so perhaps one time something went wrong, and dinosaur-frog hybrids were made! That would be cool to see.
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Lamna, my opinion is only wrong... to you... because I accept dinosaurs as they actually were*, rather than as they actually weren't.

*Ok, as we think they were. But striving for scientific correctness is still better than embracing plucked chickens.
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And I'm not happy with the horizontal posture of the theropods.
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Jun 5 2012, 01:55 PM
You know what could use a remake. Gwangi! Cowboys and dinosaurs!
I cannot stop throwing money at the screen, please help.

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Theres Dino Riders.

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Or a proper Dinotopia. I did enjoy the one with the guy from Prison Break, but it was nowhere near as good as the books.
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Oh man, Dinotopia would be AWESOME.
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Only if done right. Dinotopia's biggest draw is being pretty.

Wait, I think Jerome Flynn who plays Bronn in Game of Thrones played the descendent of Lee Crabb in the Dinotopia miniseries.

I've got to go check this.

Nevermind, it was David Thewlis all along.
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Jun 5 2012, 02:55 PM
Ok, I just noticed something; the peeps made the dinosaurs with African clawed frogs, so perhaps one time something went wrong, and dinosaur-frog hybrids were made! That would be cool to see.
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There's the dino-frogs you were talking about. :P

On the main topic; I'd go for feathering/pcyno-fibering up the animals of Jurassic Park, as an obligate paleontology crusader. Although, I can appreciate as well if JP-IV chooses to maintain the continuity of their animal's design.
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Jun 5 2012, 10:57 AM
But featherless dinosaurs are still awful. Seriously, I just don't know why people are so attached to them. :|
Well, it has already been explained how Jurassic Park's raptors are justified in that back when the books were written and also when the movies were made, many in the scientific community actually thought they were featherless. It seems a bit unfair to criticise a work of fiction for not incorporating something that wasn't common knowledge until long after it was made.

Also, as noted, Jurassic Park dinosaurs are not true dinos but rather genetically engineered ones. After all, it was made clear they had frog DNA in them. And as Russwallac pointed out, it can also be presumed that the genetic engineers who made them may have customised their appearance based on their own not quite accurate knowledge of dinosaurs.
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Can I customise the appearance of chickens based on my not-quite-accurate knowledge of dinosaurs?

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Can I customise the appearance of chickens based on my not-quite-accurate knowledge of dinosaurs?

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You're missing the point.
A chicken is an animal alive today that we know exactly what looks like, and if we want to clone them we can easily obtain enough genetic material. There is no need to customise.You can clone one that's just right.
The dinosaurs in Jurassic Park were creatures made using incomplete genetic material from long extinct species (yes, I know this wouldn't be preserved in real life, but for the purposes of the setting the concept works). It was clearly pointed out in the story that genetic material from African clawed frogs was used to fill in missing bits and that this made the genetically created dinosaurs somewhat different from their extinct natural counterparts (including giving them the ability to reproduce asexually and presumably also making them look different). In the reconstruction of the genetic material, the geneticists probably also focused on bringing out features they believed "should" be there, based on their limited palaeontological knowledge.

In any case, criticism of the lack of feathers on the dinos that were meant to have them is a moot point, as Jurassic Park was originally made long before the concept of feathery non-avian dinosaurs was common knowledge.
Now, if you are talking about future adaptations of Jurassic Park, then I can understand you wishing for feathery non-avian dinosaurs to be included. But as for the older Jurassic Park, we can't really hold it against the setting for not being able to predict how palaeontological knowledge would develop in the future.
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Jun 5 2012, 04:03 PM
And I'm not happy with the horizontal posture of the theropods.
oh yes, we need some classic tail draggers.
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