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I Hate Star Wars!; Sue the Saga!
Topic Started: Mar 27 2012, 06:38 AM (6,637 Views)
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Yeah Macgobhain remember that not all of us are US citizens. We have a national health service, thus MAKING PEOPLE SICK IS NOT PROFITABLE WHATSOEVER...
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I like to believe most politicians are people. Sure some, maybe most are motivated by greed and lust for power. But you don't get that by being stupid, this risk of something like this being exposed does not seem worth it.

Pharmaceutical companies do make a lot of money, but they also spend a huge amount on research. They are hardly giants of industry, combine the top ten pharmaceutical companies by revenue and they are about the same as Wal-Mart. Big, but hardly an East India Company.

I don't think they have wallets deep enough to shut up all the people round the world that they would need to for this to work. It's been around for more than half a century from Singapore to Chile. So many people would have to be involved I frankly don't think it is workable.

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And nobody's arguing that fluoride doesn't help your teeth. That's a proven fact, and that's why they put it in tooth paste. Ever wonder why tooth paste says not to ingest though?
Because toothpaste is full of detergents and bleaches, not something you want to swallow, and the reason they make special toothpastes for children.
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yeah, one of the main reasons i don't believe in conspiracies is due to the severe lack of leakage. Take, for example, wikileaks. Everybody freaked out about the government having secrets, but they were all really small and stupid secrets that weren't even really secrets, like the fact that we thought Gaddafi was stupid. Sure, other countries got pissed at us for insulting them, but there wasn't really anything about the government killing its own people with jet contrails, water, or controlled demolitions. Unless... wikileaks was a government conspiracy set up to make people think that...

No but seriously. It's good that people are suspicious of their own government, and they should be, because otherwise we couldn't know if such things were or were not happening, but the evidence I've seen seems to suggest that the government isn't trying to harm its civilians. That isn't to say they aren't doing it inadvertendly, i don't know, maybe flouride is poisonous, I personally haven't looked into it. However, I don't think the government is sitting behind its desk, strumming its fingers together maliciously while chuckling over the pain of its constituents.
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About 90% of the problem with conspiracies is that they are secrets... In my other persona, the biker world, we have a saying "three can keep a secret if two are dead"...

Now imagine trying to keep something as dire as poisoning whole cities of people, managed by a whole government agency, a secret?

It's the same with coppers (policeman cunstables). When there's only two or three, it's easy for them to plant evidence or steal money or drugs off "villains". But when there's a whole SWAT team and 10 detectives and 5 forensic investigators - odds are that at least two or three of them will have a conscience (I've had many dealings with cops, and there aren't many who do have a conscience, they're mostly just thuggish bullies), and blow the whistle if something dishonest or conspiratorial is going on.
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Well thank you lamna, yes that's exactly what I'm referring to, and if it wasn't a problem, then why does the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program exist? Hmmm, I wonder.
Injury from untrained injections, school nurses' skill varies. And people that are allergic to vaccines and don't know it.

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Like I said, I'm not against vaccinating kids, just force vaccinating and vaccinating when their little bodies are too young to handle the chemicals being injected into them, since it's a well known fact that any drug, whether vaccine or not can have harmful side effects, and I would rather my children not be a part of those statistics.
Modern vaccine practices are timed as best as doctors can tell. Younger is unlikely to set, older is unlikely to be as effective.

Mercury has been out of the vaccines for 15 years, it used stable mercury, and doses that couldn't harm a small vole.

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Perhaps the same profit they get out of keeping ibogaine out of our hospitals in the US? You are pretty simple minded, aren't you? Do you even realize how much money governments and industries stand to make off of people being sick? Do you know how big the pharmaceutical industries are? DUH! There are massive amounts of money being made here, and lobbyists who get politicians elected to cut them favors. Are you really so stupid as to believe that the majority of people who hold political offices actually care about their constituents? Politicians have ALWAYS benefited off of the suffering of those who keep them in office (be it duke or congressman, king or president), why should things be any different today?
Ibogain is a better hallucinogen than a painkiller, it's under research to deal with that. Rx companies don't cut favors to congress or anyone that's elected, complain to the FDA; they generally have former and future employees working there.

A duke needs his township to not be sick or he will get dead.

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Doesn't it make sense that constant exposure to a chemical, even if in small amounts could be dangerous?
We need fluoride to live. Fluoride deficiency is more common than fluoride poisoning even with fluoridated water if you exclude labs.

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The amount of health problems that fluoride has been conclusively proven to be linked to keep everyone in business from the pharmaceutical companies to the printing companies that make the labels. Sick people, means more people purchasing health insurance, more people needing medication, and more doctors getting paid for the two minutes you spend with them to get a prescription. The more all of these people get paid, the more likely they are to lobby for the people who pass legislation and sponsor programs that keep them in business.
Dangerous levels of fluoride don't make people sick, they make people sterile, then clearly poisoned, then dead. Contrary to what you think those companies would take eachother down given half a chance.

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We're not talking about mind control, we're talking about money. Money makes the world go round dude. If you don't wanna take my word for it, please research both sides of the argument before you shoot your moth off.
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Hurrah the smart people are helping.

In other news, we need and award for going off topic. We started out with a chap talking about a silly game he plays with his uncle and we got to how dangerous fluoride is. (Not very)
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Star Wars is boring till you get to the Eewoks, then we can all moon over their cute fluffiness. :3

actually, the only movie I've ever watched that I've hated was Act of Valor. Worst hour and a half I've ever had. it was litterally "oh, sorry, the terrorist is actually over here" three times in a row, and the only named characters who died all died within the last 10 minutes.

I only judge movies if they're docs and supposed to be true, as its especially sad seeing docs like TFIW and seeing those impossible things like Toratons and Megasquid.
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You haven't seen bad until you've seen "Skyline". I completely regret ever watching that, but the aliens suckered me in.
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You haven't seen bad until you've seen "Skyline". I completely regret ever watching that, but the aliens suckered me in.


Seconded. Also, nice reference. :lol:
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Um... I didn't actually try to make a joke, but it's actually pretty funny now that you mention it. :D
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Mar 29 2012, 01:57 PM
...Now, as for the actual topic here, I didn't know Star Wars drew so much off of other work, but to tell the truth I never did like it much myself. Even as a kid, I had a little trouble with how all the aliens communicated with each other. I mean some of those things would not even be capable of making sounds like ours, how would we ever come to understand them? Plus, how does a species of slug like Jaba even survive on a desert planet? They can't be native...
The Hutts aren't native to tatooine. They come from a pretty swampy world.

Also, I like star wars, but mainly because the movies are entertaining. They don't really need to be that original to do that. For good science fiction, I prefer Babylon 5 to just about everything else out there, mainly because it, for the most part, portrays realistic characters, realistic events, and realistic situations, making the need for suspension of disbelief very, very minimal. None of the characters and forces are completely good or fully evil (pt in a spoiler for those who haven't seen B5 yet);
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Mar 28 2012, 11:11 AM
If Mio is not a troll, or a kid then he must be the combination of both? A Mountain Troll!
Lol. ^^

I'm kinda actually hoping he's just a troll and/or a kid. Cause the alternative to this is that he's a really pathetic adult with nothing better to do than sit in front of a computer and whine, hoping to get attention from people. Considering the ridiculous length this thread has grown to, he has got said attention. :P
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You haven't seen bad until you've seen "Skyline". I completely regret ever watching that, but the aliens suckered me in.


Seconded. Also, nice reference. :lol:
Yeah I watched that movie with a friend... It was really stupid, and isn't the whole alien (partly robotic?) invasion a little bit cliche? There are lots of those kinds now a days.
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