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| Topic Started: Mar 27 2012, 06:38 AM (6,638 Views) | |
| lamna | Mar 29 2012, 11:25 AM Post #61 |
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Star Wars does take a lot from previous fiction, a lot of the inspiration comes from Buck Rodgers and Flash Gordon, samurai films and the space battles owe a lot to Space Battleship Yamato. Star Wars might have brought much of it to the fore, but not much is new. There's nothing wrong with disliking Star Wars, it's disliking it without knowing anything about it that's wrong. I don't care for it that much. It's fun, but it's fluff compared to other space opera like Honor Harrington, Legend of Galactic Heros or Babylon 5. I don't really like my fantasy mixed with my science fiction either. It's like fishy ice cream. |
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| Russwallac | Mar 29 2012, 11:28 AM Post #62 |
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Fish custard anyone..? Also, all of the things you mentioned are (at least partially) fantasy... They have telepaths/empaths, don't they? Still, everyone to their own taste. |
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| lamna | Mar 29 2012, 12:46 PM Post #63 |
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Babylon 5 has some fantasy themes, given it got a lot of inspiration from the Lord of the Rings, but the Honorverse and LOGH are both Science Fiction though and through. There is a difference between having something that's not likely according to what we know about physics, and actual space knights fighting with laser swords and magic. The combination does not work that well with me. Guess that makes me a JohnFaa sockpuppet too. |
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| dialforthedevil | Mar 29 2012, 12:54 PM Post #64 |
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Its like me, I dislike my fantasy with magic. Skyrim is tolerable enough, but Harry Potter is unbearable. Meanwhile Game of Thrones and Lord of the Rings are excellent because magic takes a largely back seat. |
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| lamna | Mar 29 2012, 01:16 PM Post #65 |
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Oh I'm ok with magic, though I prefer when their are strict rules like in Fullmetal Alchemist. But I don't really like it in my science fiction, it's just gilding the lily for me. |
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| macgobhain | Mar 29 2012, 01:57 PM Post #66 |
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Ok lamna... it is simply fascinating how some of you guys on this forum can be so good at thinking outside the box on this one subject (speculative evolution) yet you are simple minded enough to agree with whatever your government tells you on others. Just because fluoride has 1 or 2 good side effects, doesn't mean that it's good for you. I'm sorry, and I know I sound rude, but I also know that you're capable of being very intelligent and creative, so I just have a little trouble accepting your stupidity here. And now that you bring it up, yes, I am against vaccination. At least vaccinating kids below the age of 5. There's a whole government agency here in the US dedicated to paying the medical bills of kids who have suffered various health problems (most commonly brain damage, since the vaccinations are stuffed with mercury for preservation) because they were vaccinated. Isn't that interesting? You can't inject a baby/toddler whose brain cells haven't even fully attached yet with mercury and expect that there will never be any side effects. The other part I have a problem with is forced vaccination. No one should ever, under any circumstances be forced to vaccinate their kids or force vaccinated themselves. Now, as for the actual topic here, I didn't know Star Wars drew so much off of other work, but to tell the truth I never did like it much myself. Even as a kid, I had a little trouble with how all the aliens communicated with each other. I mean some of those things would not even be capable of making sounds like ours, how would we ever come to understand them? Plus, how does a species of slug like Jaba even survive on a desert planet? They can't be native... |
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| Ànraich | Mar 29 2012, 02:07 PM Post #67 |
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Oh wow, I can't stop laughing. You call others stupid and then talk about how vaccines contain mercury (hint; they don't)? Wow, just get out now while you still can. |
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| Russwallac | Mar 29 2012, 02:28 PM Post #68 |
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No sane physician would EVER give anyone mercury. Nor do physicians force anyone to have vaccinations. If someone wants to die of rabies, that's their problem. |
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| lamna | Mar 29 2012, 02:33 PM Post #69 |
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Wow, seriously? You're a brave one, I'll give you that. I gave you a way to finish this and you grabbed it, used it as an improvised shovel and started deepening that hole you're in. Fluoride, at the concentrations it's found in drinking water, is about as safe as any chemical can be. Furthermore many, many people around the world drink water that is naturally fluorinated. Adding it to drinking water simply makes it available to everyone. It's a very cost effective way of dramatically improving dental health. I don't trust my government to be able to hide the fact that it's knowingly poisoning people. I can't see any benefit for them in it either. Those are my two big problems with conspiracy theories. Somehow governments are hypercompetent at hiding things, yet have the motivations of cartoon villains. Seriously what's the point in spending money to harm your electorate? He's referring to the use of thiomersal as a preservative in vaccines. You need about 4 grams of it to kill a person while vaccines have only about 25 micrograms, and thiomersal has a half life of less than 4 days. You need a lot more mercury, and to be taking it much more regularly to harm a person. Edited by lamna, Mar 29 2012, 02:43 PM.
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| Russwallac | Mar 29 2012, 02:36 PM Post #70 |
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Hey, wouldn't mercury interfere with the mind control drugs..? (I'm not mocking Macgohbain, just conspiracy theorist nutjobs.)
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| lamna | Mar 29 2012, 02:44 PM Post #71 |
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I updated my post, and I do wonder how all these plots and gambits fit together. Also thought I should mention that thiomersal is getting phased out as a preservative in Europe and the USA anyway. Edited by lamna, Mar 29 2012, 02:46 PM.
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| macgobhain | Mar 29 2012, 03:34 PM Post #72 |
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Well thank you lamna, yes that's exactly what I'm referring to, and if it wasn't a problem, then why does the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program exist? Hmmm, I wonder. Like I said, I'm not against vaccinating kids, just force vaccinating and vaccinating when their little bodies are too young to handle the chemicals being injected into them, since it's a well known fact that any drug, whether vaccine or not can have harmful side effects, and I would rather my children not be a part of those statistics. "Fluoride, at the concentrations it's found in drinking water, is about as safe as any chemical can be. Furthermore many, many people around the world drink water that is naturally fluorinated. Adding it to drinking water simply makes it available to everyone. It's a very cost effective way of dramatically improving dental health. I don't trust my government to be able to hide the fact that it's knowingly poisoning people. I can't see any benefit for them in it either. Those are my two big problems with conspiracy theories. Somehow governments are hypercompetent at hiding things, yet have the motivations of cartoon villains. Seriously what's the point in spending money to harm your electorate?" Perhaps the same profit they get out of keeping ibogaine out of our hospitals in the US? You are pretty simple minded, aren't you? Do you even realize how much money governments and industries stand to make off of people being sick? Do you know how big the pharmaceutical industries are? DUH! There are massive amounts of money being made here, and lobbyists who get politicians elected to cut them favors. Are you really so stupid as to believe that the majority of people who hold political offices actually care about their constituents? Politicians have ALWAYS benefited off of the suffering of those who keep them in office (be it duke or congressman, king or president), why should things be any different today? Doesn't it make sense that constant exposure to a chemical, even if in small amounts could be dangerous? The amount of health problems that fluoride has been conclusively proven to be linked to keep everyone in business from the pharmaceutical companies to the printing companies that make the labels. Sick people, means more people purchasing health insurance, more people needing medication, and more doctors getting paid for the two minutes you spend with them to get a prescription. The more all of these people get paid, the more likely they are to lobby for the people who pass legislation and sponsor programs that keep them in business. That's the key word here: BUSINESS. We're not talking about mind control, we're talking about money. Money makes the world go round dude. If you don't wanna take my word for it, please research both sides of the argument before you shoot your moth off. |
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| macgobhain | Mar 29 2012, 03:38 PM Post #73 |
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And nobody's arguing that fluoride doesn't help your teeth. That's a proven fact, and that's why they put it in tooth paste. Ever wonder why tooth paste says not to ingest though? |
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| colddigger | Mar 29 2012, 03:56 PM Post #74 |
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Vaccinations eh? Again I say that a government should not be mass medicating its people even if it is good for them. But I do support getting vaccines and giving your children (you know, once they're several years old, I doubt it could be good for a three week old baby) vaccines to boost the immunity within said body. I don't trust either side on the mercury preservative issue, because it's a compound which changes how everything interacts, though it is still a rather toxic substance. Which is the point of a preservative (though they could put something in that simply cannot be used or registered as usable, but may require more of the stuff than just using poison.) Also you two have different governments. |
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| Russwallac | Mar 29 2012, 04:11 PM Post #75 |
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There's no "business" in mass-poisoning. Agencies such as the VICP exist for two reasons: to show that the government is holding itself responsible for its people's well-being, and because people will take any opportunity they can to sue the crap out of them. It's better to shill out a few bucks to some yahoo who thinks that a vaccine made their kid autistic than to spend millions of dollars on a lengthy court case. |
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