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| I Hate Star Wars!; Sue the Saga! | |
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| Topic Started: Mar 27 2012, 06:38 AM (6,640 Views) | |
| colddigger | Mar 27 2012, 05:31 PM Post #31 |
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Joke's over! Love, Parasky
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Hee, he/she hasn't watched the movies yet and describes the prequels as if they are what people mean when they say StarWars. I think this miocene character is allowed to voice his/her opinion no matter how uninformed and ignorant they are, though that does not mean we can't rip him/her a new one. What do you like about Twilight anyway, the books or movies? I happen to enjoy that fine Native wolfman. My goodness, jeans on him. ;b |
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| Kamidio | Mar 27 2012, 05:32 PM Post #32 |
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| Tartarus | Mar 27 2012, 06:10 PM Post #33 |
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When I first saw you describing the plot as "just astronauts fighting robots", the first thing that went through my head was "huh, has this guy even seen any of the movies???" Then I saw that you said you hadn't, yet believed you somehow knew exactly what you would think of it despite that. *facepalm* Firstly, criticising something you know nothing about is quite silly. Secondly, as has already been pointed out to you, it is not appropriate to use this forum as a place to vent your personal dislikes. Even if its called "General Discussion", you are still expected to contribute things more meaningful than simply a "I hate such and such" thread. |
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| Ànraich | Mar 28 2012, 01:28 AM Post #34 |
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Liquid water is the devil. It's a liburl conspiracy to control my thoughts with fluoride in the water supply. I mean, you ever sprayed water out of a hose and seen those rainbows and shit? What is in our water that makes it rainbow-y like that? I only drink soda pop and fruit punch. At least the companies are only conspiring to kill me with deadly plastics, but that is unintentional. |
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| macgobhain | Mar 28 2012, 02:42 AM Post #35 |
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Yeah... you should really do some research about fluoride before you go knocking those of us who don't want it in our drinking water, Parasky. I can tell you haven't researched the subject in depth, if at all, cuz if you had, you'd be on the other side of the argument. Your comment is the equivalent of this silly kid saying he hates Star Wars without having ever seen it. I can think of plenty of reasons to hate Star Wars though, namely bad acting (especially in the last 3). Harry Potter is the shit, although leaves some things to be explained and I was a little disappointed with the final movie and how many of the main characters didn't get their 15 minutes of fame. Still, that's our society today. People want action, and they want it fast, cuz their too damn stupid and have too short of attention spans to watch a movie with an in depth plot and more than 3 solid, deep characters. That's generally speaking of course, since I know there are plenty of intellectuals on this forum ![]() Lord of the Rings was well... disappointing. This is why I tend to wait for the movies of best selling novels to come out before I read them, so I will never be disappointed the way I was with LOTR. I was a huge Tolkien fan when I was a kid. I read ALL of his work on Middle Earth, so there was no room for screwing up, which Jackson did royally. The movies are supposed to be subtitle movies. I know that the Anglophone world generally speaking HATES sitting through subtitle movies, but subtitle movies are a lot more common these days around the rest of the world than voice overs. Everyone else enjoys the same films we do - in subtitles. So I think we can buck up. Anyways, the movies left all kinds of things unexplained, and also changed details of the story in outlandishly silly ways for dramatic effect. And there was not enough blood... But I still like them as an adult now, even with the wholes in the story and the lack of realism and attention to detail. |
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| Mike | Mar 28 2012, 04:48 AM Post #36 |
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Dear Miocenemadness, i don't like star wars either, but what i hate more than anything is people giving opinions without explaining them. You don't just see me saying "i hate avatar lol blue people in space", I write pages on why i hate it. Heck, I have a youtube channel set up just for ranting about shit i hate. You can't just oversimplify something then insult it for being really simple... that's just retarded. I could do that with anything. "I hate inception because it's just a bunch of guys sleeping" "I hate dinosaurs because they're just really big lizards" "I hate mlpfim because it's just a bunch of ponies" "I hate food because it's just a bunch of stuff" "I hate stuff because derp a durr lol I'mma sue somebody because I think that somebody making subjectively subpar media is a crime and I should get munnies" Blah blah blah, the point is, we're a forum dedicated to science. That means most of us try to be smart. Whether we succeed doesn't matter, the fact is we try. Therefore, we're not the kind of forum where you can just go in and make random 2-line-long posts and expect your opinion to be respected. Put some effort into it. In fact, the brevity and repetitiveness of your posts suggests you want to cause commotion, as if you know star wars is a controversial subject and just want to see people taken aghast at your radical and unique way of thinking. To an extent you've succeeded, but in no way due to a reverence for starwars, but the disregard for something much more sacrosanct - quantification. If you choose to continue discussing this logically, then go ahead,, and perhaps we can all have a nice conversation about this. However, if you continue being a mindless little troll who for some reason thinks getting people pissed at what he wishes to be a facade of stupidity is a clever way to spend his afternoon, then you can leave. |
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| lamna | Mar 28 2012, 05:20 AM Post #37 |
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You should do some too, in quite a few areas water is naturally fluoridated and people are fine. I mean if you're one of those libertarian types who get mad at governments wasting your money on maintaining roads and schools that's your business, but the health benefits are clear as day. |
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| miocenemadness | Mar 28 2012, 05:39 AM Post #38 |
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What's the Last Airbender? But OK, Mike. And I am not a troll or a little kid. And I love Avatar!!! Edited by miocenemadness, Mar 29 2012, 06:27 AM.
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| macgobhain | Mar 28 2012, 06:09 AM Post #39 |
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Lol lamna... yeah. "but the health benefits are clear as day." I seriously just laughed my ass off... hard. I'm really not trying to be rude, but that's the stupidest thing I've heard all day. And today has been a long day of some very stupid conversations with people. I can show you at least a dozen studies linking the fluoridation of water to at least 2 dozen or more serious health issues that are surprisingly common in today's world, where they didn't use to be. Where should I start? The Chinese studies that have linked it conclusively to kidney damage? The EHP's study that showed cognitive damage? The Harvard Studies linking it to several different kinds of cancer, including osteosarcoma, and a number of other bone ailments? Or how about the American Gastroenterological Association's studies that linked pharmaceutical grade fluoride directly to adenocarcinoma of the esophagus, which used to be really, really rare? Now, unsurprisingly with the amount of that shit there is in the water, it's one of the most common occurring caners. Isn't that funny? Not really. Fluoridated water was originally useful in treating hyperthyroidism, which is part of the reason why a number of state governments as well as the federal government have decided that it's a good idea for everyone to be drinking. But if you're not suffering from hyperthyroidism, then it's generally pretty useless and can be extremely harmful to the body in a number of different ways that most of us will exhibit in our lifetime, probably as a result of drinking it. It's like continually giving somebody chemotherapy when they don't have cancer. It can and often does have long term, nasty effects. And please don't argue for government run schooling, cuz it's "plain as day" that complete government control of schooling (such as we have here in the United States) is a terrible idea. And no I don't really mind government control of roads, however you shouldn't dis privatized roads without having done some research on the idea. If there's anything private industry is good at doing, it's innovating. I wonder if traffic would be as jammed up if roads belonged to private industries whose goal it was to provide people with the best deal? Hmmmm... I kind of like private industries that have REAL incentive to provide me, the customer, with something nice, as opposed to the federal government, which operates on my check book and therefore is less responsible, because it doesn't take a direct cut in its pay check if it doesn't get me what I want... Try thinking outside the box some time instead of going with the status quo, it's good for you. |
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| Russwallac | Mar 28 2012, 07:43 AM Post #40 |
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Shaddup with the water already; we're "tearing Mio a new one", as Colddigger so eloquently put it. |
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| Carlos | Mar 28 2012, 10:17 AM Post #41 |
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I don't like Star Wars. It's a cliched mess with discriminatory subtext and incoherent morality. |
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| dialforthedevil | Mar 28 2012, 11:11 AM Post #42 |
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If Mio is not a troll, or a kid then he must be the combination of both? A Mountain Troll! Lord of the Rings is amazing, Peter Jackson did an epic job Macgobhain,your chattin' shit bro It would have been nice for it to be a bit more gory. If remember though you are older than me, so you never got the epicness that a seven year old boy got when watching the battle of plennor fields
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| colddigger | Mar 28 2012, 12:54 PM Post #43 |
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Joke's over! Love, Parasky
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On the subject of water I have to point out that, regardless of whether or not it is good to drink flouride, I feel a government should not take it upon itself to mass medicate its people. |
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| macgobhain | Mar 28 2012, 02:42 PM Post #44 |
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Thank you colddigger. And dialforthedevil you're probably right. I was 11 or 12... Here are the main things I have a problem with: First of all, I understand that the Tom Bombadil chapters are mostly a lot of nothing, but there's something very important that happened in there that helped Merry kill the Witch-King. Aragorn never gave swords to the hobbits, the hobbits got them from Tom Bombadil in the Barrow-Downs, which were the tombs of ancient Arnorian kings. Those swords had magic in them that had the ability to sever the Witch-King's ties to the mortal world, which is something the Arnorians had been studying since they spent several centuries fighting him when he invaded from Angmar. So it's not because Eowyn is a woman that she's able to kill the Witch-King, it's because Merry stabbed him in the back with his sword from the Barrow-Downs and made him mortal. Second, which is something that really grinds my gears, and would grind Tolkien's as a WWI veteran, Theoden NEVER moved his people from Edoras to Helm's Deep. That made no strategic sense at all. There had been Orc raids in the northern and western sections of Rohan, but the country was far from being "overrun". Theoden went to Helm's Deep because his armies at his western border territory (the Westfold) broke, and Helm's Deep was the fort that the retreating troops were gathering at. He was reinforcing his army, not making some kind of a "last stand" with a few thousand civilians that he had brought to the head of the conflict. The languages in the movie though, since I'm a linguist, were what irked me the most. The hobbits names were not really supposed to be Frodo, Sam, Merry and Pippin, but Maura, Ban (Banazîr), Kali (Kalimac) and Razar (Razanur). The Common Tongue, is actually called Sôval Phârë, and has a Semitic tint to it. The names given in the case of the men of Dale, the Woodmen of Mirkwood, the Rohirrim, and the speakers of the Common Tongue (the Shire and Bree mostly) were supposed to be "translations" of their actual names. Still, it's fine that they used English, but when they decided to use Old English for the Rohirric language that was dumb. Their language was supposed to be related to the Common Tongue in a similar way to Anglo-Saxon being related to Modern English. So the Common Tongue and Rohirric share a common ancestor, like Scots, Yola, or the Frisian languages do with English. He didn't literally mean that he wanted them to speak Old English. The books also specifically state that a lot of the people in Gondor didn't speak the Common Tongue, so the fact that you never here the Gondorians speak their language (derived from Sindarin) was a little bit annoying since they gave the Rohirrim a language (even though they barely spoke it). The Dunlendings also didn't speak the Common Tongue, neither did Orcs half the time, and why were the Druedain cut out? They could have at least given Ghân-buri-Ghân his 3 minutes in the extended version. And where was all the blood when Eowyn cut the fell-beast's head off? That thing would have sprayed blood EVERYWHERE. She would've been absolutely drenched. Besides, as much as I love the books, Tolkien made a big ass mistake in writing them. He included the eagles he wrote about in the Hobbit in the Lord of the Rings, which of course has brought up the popular question: why didn't they just fly the eagles to Mordor and drop the ring in Mount Doom? Of course maybe the eagles aren't that cooperative, but if that's the case, they should hardly be made out as heroes. They're more like the assholes who only show up at the very last minute to do what little they can to help out... Oh well though. It doesn't mean I still don't like them, it just means there was some stuff that I thought was important that was missing. |
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| macgobhain | Mar 28 2012, 02:44 PM Post #45 |
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Oh, and Frodo never told Sam to go home either. That was total bull. |
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It would have been nice for it to be a bit more gory. If remember though you are older than me, so you never got the epicness that a seven year old boy got when watching the battle of plennor fields 
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