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No Toraceratops!; It finally happened.
Topic Started: Feb 16 2012, 08:34 AM (5,416 Views)
Russwallac
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Horner's gone a little crazy in the last few years... That tends to happen when scientists get too much media attention. They'll start coming up with all sorts of insane theories just to stay in the spotlight.
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You should classify fish as two or more different groups; a salmon is more closely related to a human than it is to a shark, after all.
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JohnFaa
Feb 17 2012, 08:39 AM
It's sad that this thread requires being ignorant towards sauropsid biology in order to make sense.
Hooo boy, here comes another Faa rant... I'm gonna leave the topic now. <_<
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So lemme get this straight: the most successful megafauna of all time were doomed to be wiped out by oversized crocodylians? Does none of this seem strange to anyone? Crocodylians are reptiles, after all. They need relatively little food, aren't terribly intelligent, and can't survive anywhere where it's too cold. Crocodylians are ambush predators; they might be able to dominate in isolated areas, but they wouldn't be able to compete with dinosaurs on the whole.
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Also, is there any real evidence for this besides a single article on the internet? You'd figure that this would be big news in the scientific community, but there's been no real mention of it.
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Are we even sure that they were predators? Many modern carnivorous reptiles scavenge most of the time.
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Agreed; according to your logic, JohnFaa, any warm-blooded, multi-toothed, quadrupedal carnivore could outcompete theropods. But why didn't they? There were plenty of animals like that around before dinosaurs really took off, but they were outcompeted.
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So, your theory is only sound if prehistoric crocodylians had specialized air sacs? I'm not terribly convince.
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Theropods tend to be quite a bit bigger than the crocs you're talking about. Naturally, smaller animals tend to be far more abundant than larger ones. The difference would be even more pronounced if the crocs were scavengers instead of predators.

And once again, you're becoming hostile when people don't agree with you.
Edited by Russwallac, Feb 22 2012, 12:29 PM.
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I'm still not convinced that anything you're saying is valid until we see some articles. One or two paragraphs on a random website isn't gonna do it for me.

Also, why do you turn everything into an excuse to insult us?
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So you have one article and a paper which may or may not be relevant to the subject? I want more than that.

And once again, you're insulting me.
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Usually, discoveries with as much significance as the one you're talking about gain a lot of scientific attention, even if it's rebuttals against it. The fact that there's absolutely nothing beyond a single article makes me suspicious.
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That's not what I'm saying. A discovery like the one JohnFaa is talking about is extremely important, and should be getting a lot of attention from the scientific community (even if that attention is bad). However, there hasn't been any real response to it at all.
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Ugh... Can we just lock this already? It was a so-so topic to begin with, and now it's devolving into an off-topic flamewar...
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