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| Book Concept: A Realistic Alien Invasion | |
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| Topic Started: Feb 14 2012, 04:12 PM (1,441 Views) | |
| dialforthedevil | Feb 14 2012, 04:12 PM Post #1 |
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I am so bored of the cliche alien Invasion and I hope to present one which makes some sort of sense. 1. Thousands of vessels turn up in the atmosphere above Earth across the globe. Immediately vast amounts of drones pour out of drop ships but they seem to only attack Africa and the Middle East. Meanwhile they constantly harass the Air Forces of all nations, it seems that in terms of Air Power a modern combat jet can actually match an alien craft. Africa and the Middle East are hit incredibly hard, thousands of alien ground drones pour into the nations and begin a program of extermination. Oddly no viral nor large scale bombs are really used unless they are on large civilian groups. 2. After two months of fighting Africa and the Middle East are left absolutely devastated, more so from human weapons rather than alien ones. Although strange bombs were dropped on nearly all the cities in these nations, but only after all military targets had been wiped out. In the two months countries such as the USA suddenly find that their oil supplies had been cut off, the jets which had once protected these countries now lay dormant as thousands of alien dropships begin descending and start what happened in the Middle East. Low on supplies these nations crumble. Militia learn that the aliens only bomb the cities, but in the countryside the sheer speed of the drones and their firepower tear apart human tanks and infantry. 3. An emergency UN meeting is called, nearly all of the human militaries lie in ruin. Operation Tartarus is put into play. If mankind cannot have the Earth Nobody will. Every single missile mankind has is launched at the alien ships in orbit. Entire nuclear salvos are unleashed. THe last remaining humans retreat into bunkers. After a week mankind emerges, finding that alot of the bombs did not explode being old duds from the cold war. But the vast alien fleet was gone, the whole Earth covered in the carcasses of the ships. The skies were scorched red and, much of Earth was left devastated. But the drones no longer worked... 4. The great fight back began. Humanity rallied its forces and discovered the drones masters, which came to be known as 'squiddies'. No where near as resilient as their drone warriors the squiddies could not withstand such an assault. Used to living cooped up in their spacecraft the tanks and guns of mankind quickly slaughtered them. The great fight back though took 6 years of fighting across the irradiated wastes of Earth. 5. As mankind celebrated the Phyrric Victory briefly the skies once again burst with activity. A new vast fleet of different design appears in the skies. A message is sent to mankind. It is a simple choice, fight for us and we will fix your world, or we shall exterminate you. Humanity has no choice. The species which has made contact is known as the Fathers. The fathers sent the Squiddies as a test to mankind, the fathers need soldiers for the eternal war against something they simply call the foe. The fathers are godlike beings which go on these recruitment drives to find races which can fight in these wars. Mankind passed with flying colours, Operation Tartarus was not expected by anyone, at all. 6. If you guys like the sound of this I shall explain what happens when mankind joins the thousands of other sophonts which 'passed the test' .... |
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| lamna | Apr 6 2012, 04:39 PM Post #16 |
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Well in Footfall a coordinated US-Soviet nuclear strike destroys some Fithp ships on the ground, and most of Nebraska in the process, but it takes most of their missiles. Perhaps you could have the Fathers control instantaneous faster than light travel, having them cart around a jumpgate/stargate/mass relay thingy so their forces can travel between worlds. The squids invading have a lot of duties to perform for the Fathers so only leave a few dozen ships in orbit after they initial assault. The Human nuclear strike is large enough to take out most of the ships in orbit and the jumpgate, leaving remaining squid forces cut-off. By the time reinforcements get there the Fathers have declared that the humans have won. Edited by lamna, Apr 6 2012, 04:42 PM.
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| T.Neo | Apr 6 2012, 05:06 PM Post #17 |
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I doubt there'd be riots if oil supplies were cut down. If you're fighting an alien invasion things are going to be prioritised. Lamna, I'm not actually sure how long it'd take for an ICBM to intercept a spacecraft in low orbit, but the sky is big and if you can only scan part of it at a time you might miss a surprise attack. No targeting system is 100% efficient. A more advanced targeting system would be more efficient, but still not perfectly so. Even if you intercept 99% of 30 000 warheads*, you could lose up to a third of your 1000 ship fleet. These weapons have decoys and countermeasures and stuff built into them, too. It isn't only hypothetical alien invaders who intend to defend themselves from oncoming nuclear weapons. |
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| lamna | Apr 6 2012, 05:28 PM Post #18 |
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Yes but I assumed they would be more advanced, which would give them a massive edge. We see it time and time again in the small wars though the 20th and 21st century when a major power gets involved against someone with only decent technology. Ten years behind and you're in trouble. Twenty and you're doomed. Thirty and you've already lost. I'm assuming someone capable of interstellar travel would be far more advanced. I've thought of two other possibilities. One is a software errors making their missile defence ineffective, which was a major problem in the 80's and 90's. Back in the Falklands War the type 42's got hit a lot because their missiles wouldn't work when they got too close. During the Gulf War Patriot systems were flawed and they could only get them to work by turning it off and on again. But that's not a very good solution as these aliens are supposed to be advanced and have done this before. They should have worked out any bugs. A better option I think, is to have the Fathers in control of the ships, and not use them beyond the first attack, effectively meaning the humans and the squids fight on equal terms. I think having a fair sized war going on before the invasion might help give the humans more of a chance. Perhaps Venezuela/the Bolivarian Alliance, Iran and the DPRK are all all fighting the USA and allies at once (World War 2.5?) meaning the great powers are mobilized for war and producing. |
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| colddigger | Apr 7 2012, 12:14 AM Post #19 |
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Joke's over! Love, Parasky
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Would Mexico horde its oil for its military? I would expect them to have an exchange of United States military force for their oil (they power what is defending them anyway that way). Being on the brink of a world war could be good, it would mean that there's weapon and ammo stockpiling and military building and plenty of aggression. Though how quickly it would be aimed at aliens if they were to attack only one side? I don't know... |
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| lamna | Apr 7 2012, 02:59 AM Post #20 |
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If there is one lesson we've learnt from modern warfare, it's that you never have enough ammunition. A major war happening before the squid attack would help remedy this. |
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| colddigger | Apr 7 2012, 03:27 AM Post #21 |
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Joke's over! Love, Parasky
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Wait I'm slightly confused, are we trying to set the Earth up so that it doesn't immediately take out the invaders? So you want the supplies used up? |
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| bloom_boi | Apr 7 2012, 03:34 AM Post #22 |
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What The?
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What about a cold war scenario. I mean, would modern super powers really risk total war. I also point to on of Issac Asimov's stories, in which a cold war greatly speeds up technological advance to once un-seen levels. |
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"You shall perish, whatever you do! If you are taken with arms in your hands, death! If you beg for mercy, death! Whichever way you turn, right, left, back, forward, up, down, death! You are not merely outside the law, you are outside humanity. Neither age nor sex shall save you and yours. You shall die, but first you shall taste the agony of your wife, your sister, your sons and daughters, even those in the cradle! Before your eyes the wounded man shall be taken out of the ambulance and hacked with bayonets or knocked down with the butt end of a rifle. He shall be dragged living by his broken leg or bleeding arm and flung like a suffering, groaning bundle of refuse into the gutter. Death! Death! Death!" | |
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| lamna | Apr 7 2012, 04:32 AM Post #23 |
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No I want it so we're producing lots. In peacetime we never have enough ammunition in stockpiles. |
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| dialforthedevil | Apr 7 2012, 04:57 AM Post #24 |
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Well the squiddies are not more advanced than us in reality, its just because of their awkwardness in actual ground combat they have always had to rely on drones. At first it appears they are more advanced, simply because of their use of drones etc. Only the Fathers have the capability of interstellar travel. The ships of the squiddies were brought here by a father jump gate, but their space craft are equivalent to a slightly more advanced Apollo spacecraft which has been weaponised. The simple fact is they have mountains of them. I like the build up to WW3 idea, it would make sense as to why humanity is able to put up such a fight. Although I want humans to have current day technology, as I am bored of seeing humans being intellectually and technologically inferior. I wanted to see jets and tanks actually being of use. Also Operation Tartarus is a complete suprise as no other species has ever done anything like that before. Edited by dialforthedevil, Apr 7 2012, 05:00 AM.
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| bloom_boi | Apr 7 2012, 05:12 AM Post #25 |
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But if we were in world war 3, would we be able to put aside our differences? I think survival would depend on unification. |
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| lamna | Apr 7 2012, 05:41 AM Post #26 |
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Well that's what the Worldwar series is all about. Aliens invade in 1942 and most of humanity unites against them. Nobody likes each other very much, and everyone's very disappointed when Hitler survives the nuking of Berlin, but humanity manages it. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Worldwar And I think it should either be a medium sized war (about the size of Korea, Vietnam) or another cold war, perhaps Russia + Chávez's crowd vs NATO and company, with China and Pakistan having their own cold war with India (who are both Pro-Russia and Pro-West). Perhaps combine the two, maybe a another stupid war in the Congo region. China supporting Uganda, Russia providing tepid support for some vaguely leftie people while their Latin American go all in. NATO+ just glad the guy they are backing is only a nasty dictator and not genocidal or insane. Edited by lamna, Apr 7 2012, 05:43 AM.
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| dialforthedevil | Apr 7 2012, 06:20 AM Post #27 |
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I was thinking something along the lines of Kashmir borders really heating up. NATO backing India's claim, while China is shipping tonnes of arms into Pakistan. What kicks it off is a bombing in a Pakistan Air force base. |
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| lamna | Apr 7 2012, 06:27 AM Post #28 |
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NATO+ would prefer to have both India and Pakistan as allies, but that sounds plausible. Perhaps NATO could get involved in dealing with the Naxalite-Maoist insurgency and India taking over in Afghanistan, currently the Afghans like the Indians a lot and would probably welcome them. Perhaps you could have Vietnam challenging China over the South China Sea, which is likely to put the Russians on high alert with two of their oldest and most powerful Asian allies at risk. Edited by lamna, Apr 7 2012, 06:29 AM.
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| dialforthedevil | Apr 7 2012, 08:18 AM Post #29 |
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Oh no wait, I have got it! North Korea collapses after a series of famines, Kim Jong-Un is over thrown. Immediately South Korea takes advantage of the chaos and launches an all out invasion, meanwhile distributing food aid. The US also aids in the reunification of Korea. The chinese fearing a unified Korea outcompeting them, also takes over large tracts of land in the North and swallows up the North's armed forces. South Korea is outraged by this act and begins demanding that China release the land it took over. NATO also backs South Korea. Russia tries to claim land in the North as well but is rebuked by both sides. Korea threatens to attack Chinese held land, the US secretly backs these plans but pretends to remain aloof. It is fairly obvious that NATO will aid in the invasion, as combined Navies begin amassing in the Pacific... |
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| lamna | Apr 7 2012, 09:03 AM Post #30 |
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Needs a little bit of work but sounds plausible. It's generally thought that the DPRK only continues to exist because people would rather deal with them than cleaning up the mess. The ROK does not want to spend decades rebuilding the North, China does not want all that lovely Korean investment being redirected to rebuilding the north and America does not want to risk all those DPRK weapons falling into the hands of terrorists and other ne'er-do-wells. China shouldn't grab land, nations don't do that any more. They would occupy regions to secure their borders to prevent a refugee crisis and smuggling. And then, after a fair plebiscite have those regions voluntarily and temporarily become part of the Yanbian Korean Autonomous Prefecture. Of course China has always supported a unified Korea and once the occupied regions have reached a unspecified level of development more plebiscites will be held. Within the Chinese occupied regions you could have DPRK die-hards. They could build bases in the occupied regions that China ignores and when Korea strikes these bases it could cause a lot of tension between the west and China. Perhaps you could throw in Vietnam and China getting hostile and perhaps tensions between Taiwan and the Mainland. Maybe a Chinese warship blows up in the South China Sea while terrorists in Southern China claim loyalty to the KMT. The big problem with this scenario is it's just going to be mobilization, not actual production. |
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