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| Topic Started: Nov 10 2011, 10:54 PM (752 Views) | |
| Ànraich | Nov 10 2011, 10:54 PM Post #1 |
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So I got some fish recently, and things have been going fine. Six small fish in a 1.5 gallon fish tank is a little crowded, but they seem to share the Spongebob pineapple house I put in there. Anyways, I have two of each fish. I'm not entirely sure what they all are; two goldfish, two "glofish," and two other fish I don't know much about. It's these last two that I need help with, they don't seem to get along. I'm assuming their both male, because the larger one has been systematically attacking the smaller one. Normally this isn't a problem, fish will be fish after all, but he has really messed the smaller fish up. The caudal fin is practically non-existent, the dorsal fin has been shredded, and it looks like the poor guy is completely missing a pelvic fin. He's having a hard time swimming now, he just sort of floats near the top and has to "seize" to keep from floating on the surface. He can still awkwardly swim around to get food, but today I saw that some of his muscle was exposed on his tail and I get the feeling he won't survive much longer if I leave him at the mercy of the other fish. I've put some water in a vase and I'm going to transfer the injured fish into it as soon as the water has reached room temperature. Aside from keeping an eye on him, is there anything I can do to help the fish heal? I assume his fins will grow back, it wouldn't make much evolutionary sense to not regenerate them. But then again I only know basic fish anatomy from the zoology course I took in high school. And don't ask what they're names are. They're damn fish, why would I name them? |
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| agatharights | Nov 10 2011, 11:17 PM Post #2 |
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I'd be more worried about that fish getting an infection, if he's really gotten bitten up. Fish do poops where they swims, after all, so if you see white patches or pustules developing on the fish, it will sadly be time to let go. However, in the meantime... http://www.fish-species.org.uk/ Some fish do require much more space per individual than others, so perhaps a bigger tank would help the fish get along, or two separate "home" environments for shelter. Edited by agatharights, Nov 10 2011, 11:17 PM.
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| Kamidio | Nov 10 2011, 11:22 PM Post #3 |
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Fry the lil' one up and feed it to the neighbour's cat. Trust me, when something get's as battered as Nemo, you've gotta kill the thing. Survival of the fittest, wot wot. I don't care if it sounds insensitive, you have no right to feel offfended if you haven't even named the buggers. I mean, seeing as you're a fish, I don't see why your parents named you*. |
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| Flisch | Nov 10 2011, 11:23 PM Post #4 |
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I don't think the fish will survive for very long in the vase, unless you put a filter and an aerator in there. Or it's a labyrinth fish I guess. I had a similar thing with two freshwater crayfish. They actually started eating my african dwarf frogs alive. (One was already dead by the time I realized this.) I quickly removed them and put them in a separate container, like a bowl. They were dead by the end of the day due to the lack of oxygen in the water. Not sure what you can do actually. I'm not even sure if fins really grow back at all. I've never heard of that. |
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| Ànraich | Nov 11 2011, 01:06 AM Post #5 |
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Fish don't need an aerator if you clean the tank and replace the water every week like you're supposed to. Fakey, you're right that I wouldn't feel bad if the fish died. It's just a fish after all. Empathy is for people, not animals. However that doesn't mean I'm going to be cruel and kill, cook, and feed it to my neighbors cat. If it dies, I'm throwing it in the terrarium; goldfish make great fertilizer. I would know, I've been breeding goldfish since I was seven and I've seen literally hundreds of them die. Anyways I've got him in the vase now, and I can get a better look at him. Looks like the other fish just nibbled off some scales, doesn't look like he's got any lacerations. And the damage is greatly less than it initially appeared. His caudal fin is dangerously shredded, but using my magnifying glass I can see his other fins appear to be fine. He isn't eating much though, but I'm assuming that's because after three fucking hours the water in the vase still hasn't reached room temperature and it was slightly colder than the water in the tank. When I put him in at first he remained upside down and I feared that he was going through temperature shock, but he awkwardly flipped over after a few seconds so I'm guessing he probably is just having a hard time with balance. EDIT: After some research I've concluded that the caudal fin will indeed regenerate. I'm getting another fish tank tomorrow (I actually got one tonight but it was split when I opened the box so tomorrow I have to go harass Walmart's customer service representative). I'm going to keep this guy separate and feed him more regularly than the other fish. Hopefully he will gain a little size and can defend himself from the other fish (which I keep threatening to kill if he continues being a bully, but alas I don't think he speaks English). Edited by Ànraich, Nov 11 2011, 01:11 AM.
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We should all aspire to die surrounded by our dearest friends. Just like Julius Caesar. "The Lord Universe said: 'The same fate I have given to all things from stones to stars, that one day they shall become naught but memories aloft upon the winds of time. From dust all was born, and to dust all shall return.' He then looked upon His greatest creation, life, and pitied them, for unlike stars and stones they would soon learn of this fate and despair in the futility of their own existence. And so the Lord Universe decided to give life two gifts to save them from this despair. The first of these gifts was the soul, that life might more readily accept their fate, and the second was fear, that they might in time learn to avoid it altogether." - Excerpt from a Chanagwan creation myth, Legends and Folklore of the Planet Ghar, collected and published by Yieju Bai'an, explorer from the Celestial Commonwealth of Qonming Tree That Owns Itself
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| lamna | Nov 11 2011, 03:06 AM Post #6 |
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It would help if we had some idea of what the fish was. I would recommend getting a breeding net to hang over the side, at least while it recuperates.
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| Kamidio | Nov 11 2011, 06:31 AM Post #7 |
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Pretty sure people are animals, dude. |
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| Ànraich | Nov 11 2011, 04:57 PM Post #8 |
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No, humans are not animals. They're people. Just because we're primates doesn't mean we're animals. We have thoughts and feelings, hopes and dreams, control over our own future. Animals don't have that, they have simple thoughts. They live on instinct, they are driven only by impulse and genetics. Your argument is a naive, childish strawman. The fish is fine, this topic is locked. |
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We should all aspire to die surrounded by our dearest friends. Just like Julius Caesar. "The Lord Universe said: 'The same fate I have given to all things from stones to stars, that one day they shall become naught but memories aloft upon the winds of time. From dust all was born, and to dust all shall return.' He then looked upon His greatest creation, life, and pitied them, for unlike stars and stones they would soon learn of this fate and despair in the futility of their own existence. And so the Lord Universe decided to give life two gifts to save them from this despair. The first of these gifts was the soul, that life might more readily accept their fate, and the second was fear, that they might in time learn to avoid it altogether." - Excerpt from a Chanagwan creation myth, Legends and Folklore of the Planet Ghar, collected and published by Yieju Bai'an, explorer from the Celestial Commonwealth of Qonming Tree That Owns Itself
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