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Allocene Project; A voyage to the world of tomorrow, 35 m.y in the future
Topic Started: Nov 1 2011, 06:45 AM (1,540 Views)
Electreel	Nov 1 2011, 06:45 AM Post #1
Galactic seed of Megazostrodon Posts: 105 Group: Members Member #646 Joined: Oct 31, 2011 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Future Evolution Nationality: Spain Favorite Quote: "We are a way to the cosmos to know itself"	"Allocene, 35 my after the present day, a world covered in forests. Continental drift has led a post-glacial Earth into climatic conditions similar to those of the Eocene epoch; tropical area once again covers a huge portion of the planet; forest biotopes are predominant almost everywhere. Antarctic subcontinent, which has slightly moved towards the Indian Ocean is now mostly covered by coniferous forests and cold meadows. Despite of having caused the extinction of hundreds of species too specialized to adapt, this new world is an open door for a myriad of brand new living forms, unexpected evolutionary patterns and never seen ways of development" This Speculative Evolution project will hipothesize about the possible fate of lifeforms 35 m.y in the future, in an hipothetical epoch called Allocene. Hi, my name is Carlos Pizcueta (I´m also known as Electreel ); I´m 16 years old and Spain is my homeland. The idea of this project was conceived long time ago, but it was not until recently that I decided to make it public. First appearence of the project was in the Deviantart site http://allocene.deviantart.com/, where I´m currently working with several persons (among all of them I have to especially thank the contribution of members Jaldithas, Cephylus, Vasix, PonchoFireWalker and Bhut). This topic was created in order to facilitate the discussion of ideas and concepts, and to capture the attention of any interested person. We specially need the intervention of knowledgeable people, for making the project as accurate as possible. If you are interested to participate in the project and show us any (serious) idea related to this concept or contribute with a picture, you will be welcomed and we will appreciate it very much, in addition to that you will become a member of the future website project. I will pleasantly answer any question you may have. Attached to this post: Ambulagus_II.psd.jpg (43.54 KB) Edited by Electreel, Nov 1 2011, 12:20 PM.



Aiosian_Lord_Kaihoan	Nov 1 2011, 08:29 AM Post #2
I felt that one... Posts: 435 Group: Members Member #630 Joined: Oct 8, 2011 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: Scottish (Though, lives in Kent, Washington presently) Favorite Quote: A man does what he must - in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles and dangers and pressures - and that is the basis of all human morality. - Winston Churchill	I'm no artist, but I can come up with great adaptations. I mean, you could just give me an animal, and tell me what the current (Allocene) environmental conditions in the area are, and I can adapt the animal perfectly to it. I'm a master at this. Genetic manipulation is pretty much my best thing.



Electreel	Nov 1 2011, 10:49 AM Post #3
Galactic seed of Megazostrodon Posts: 105 Group: Members Member #646 Joined: Oct 31, 2011 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Future Evolution Nationality: Spain Favorite Quote: "We are a way to the cosmos to know itself"	Thanks for your readiness to help! Well, I have some problems deciding how certain species would evolve in the future This is just an example: http://allocene.deviantart.com/blog/44979012/#comments I´ll surely answer any question you may have.



Aiosian_Lord_Kaihoan	Nov 1 2011, 05:02 PM Post #4
I felt that one... Posts: 435 Group: Members Member #630 Joined: Oct 8, 2011 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: Scottish (Though, lives in Kent, Washington presently) Favorite Quote: A man does what he must - in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles and dangers and pressures - and that is the basis of all human morality. - Winston Churchill	Problem: My computer cannot reach Deviant Art.



Electreel	Nov 1 2011, 05:22 PM Post #5
Galactic seed of Megazostrodon Posts: 105 Group: Members Member #646 Joined: Oct 31, 2011 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Future Evolution Nationality: Spain Favorite Quote: "We are a way to the cosmos to know itself"	What a pity! I´ll post the entry here then: Recently I have been updating and completing the Allocene mammals´ bestiary, and new species, together with those YOU have imagined, are ready. Unfortunately, my imagination hasn´t been working quite well lately, and loads of modern species, which would survive and diverge, appear devoid of descendants. These are some of them: Jackal (Canis aureus) (Canis mesomelas) European badger (Meles meles) Striped skunk (Mephitis mephitis) Hermin (Mustela herminea) Mink (Mustela vison) Cacomistle (Bassaricus astutus) Genet (Genetta genetta) Banded mongoose (Mungos mungo) Common mongoose (Herpestes sp) Suricate (Suricata suricatta) Domestic cat (Felis domesticus)!!!!! Just a singular descendant up to now Thalassofelis dolichomorphus, imagined by Jaldithas, many more species are needed! It would be great if you could help me any idea will be considered. Thanks! BTW, if you want to see any illustration of the project, please tell



Aiosian_Lord_Kaihoan	Nov 1 2011, 08:00 PM Post #6
I felt that one... Posts: 435 Group: Members Member #630 Joined: Oct 8, 2011 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: Scottish (Though, lives in Kent, Washington presently) Favorite Quote: A man does what he must - in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles and dangers and pressures - and that is the basis of all human morality. - Winston Churchill	Illustrations of the critters that have already been designed would be nice. But tell me, what the habitat conditions that these animals; Jackal (Canis aureus). (Canis mesomelas), European badger (Meles meles), Striped skunk (Mephitis mephitis), Hermin (Mustela herminea), Mink (Mustela vison), Cacomistle (Bassaricus astutus), Genet (Genetta genetta), Banded mongoose (Mungos mungo), Common mongoose (Herpestes sp), Suricate (Suricata suricatta), What are the conditions? This would help greatly, as well as the sort of terrain ,other animals, and plant life in the area. Otherwise, I can't make accurate evolutions very well. One other thing, what are the climate conditions, and what is the biome/terrain in Canada, North america, the arctic circle, Greenland, Norway, China, Finland, Russia/Siberia, and Mongolia, where lemmings are found? I have some good Ideas with these fellas... Edited by Aiosian_Lord_Kaihoan, Nov 1 2011, 08:09 PM.



Electreel	Nov 14 2011, 12:49 PM Post #7
Galactic seed of Megazostrodon Posts: 105 Group: Members Member #646 Joined: Oct 31, 2011 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Future Evolution Nationality: Spain Favorite Quote: "We are a way to the cosmos to know itself"	Hey, as you might notice, I´m too busy now, so I´ll answer your questions later on. Nevertheless I have enough time to post some pictures: "Elephantulus promustus: Smallish, tapir looking representative of probosuid family, a fairly widespread group of giant proboscidean-like boars." "Great black stiltboar: Great browsing representative of stiltboars, cursorial species of suines." "Mountain quadraroo (Tragowallabia oreous): Four legged gaited mountain macropod, descendant of wallabies introduced in New Zealand." "Monster turtle (Phobochelys sp): Huge descendant of alligator snapping turtle" "Bear raccoon (Ursicyon sp) Giant descendant of raccoons" These are some pictures from my project, but there are many more of them. Edited by Electreel, Nov 14 2011, 01:01 PM.



Aiosian_Lord_Kaihoan	Nov 14 2011, 05:55 PM Post #8
I felt that one... Posts: 435 Group: Members Member #630 Joined: Oct 8, 2011 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: Scottish (Though, lives in Kent, Washington presently) Favorite Quote: A man does what he must - in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles and dangers and pressures - and that is the basis of all human morality. - Winston Churchill	Nice. I think I could come up with some variant species of those you have shown. Pygmy Stiltboar: A small, shaggy, blubbery Stiltboar, with whitish fur that has light silvery-gray rings dappled on it's pelt. This small, chubby Stiltboar has evolved to survive colder temperatures, keeping it's body temperature up with the help of it's black skin, polar bear-like fur, and large fat stores. Pygmy Stiltboars are scavengers, and will feed on anything edible they find, in their cold, snowy habitat.



Electreel	Nov 18 2011, 06:47 PM Post #9
Galactic seed of Megazostrodon Posts: 105 Group: Members Member #646 Joined: Oct 31, 2011 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Future Evolution Nationality: Spain Favorite Quote: "We are a way to the cosmos to know itself"	Good thinking! But unfortunatelly habitats like that would hardly occurr during Allocene. Furthermore, stiltboars would be strictly herbivorous, since they´d fill the role of browsers and grazers, though, of course, omnivorous forms could appear, specially in less productive ecosystems.



Zorcuspine	Nov 18 2011, 07:00 PM Post #10
You never cease to suprise me blue hedgehog Posts: 1,041 Group: Members Member #327 Joined: Jun 12, 2010 Gender: Male Nationality: US Favorite Quote: "You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty." Mahatma Gandhi	Are there any places on Earth where there is still ice?



Electreel	Nov 18 2011, 08:24 PM Post #11
Galactic seed of Megazostrodon Posts: 105 Group: Members Member #646 Joined: Oct 31, 2011 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Future Evolution Nationality: Spain Favorite Quote: "We are a way to the cosmos to know itself"	Of course!! Northern zones (Siberia, northernmost Canada), where taiga, cold steppe and even tundra predominate, would be covered in snow during winter; though I don´t know about glaciers. Same happens in Antarctica, which would possess very little icecap (here glaciers would surely occurr) I just meant that these places in northern zones would be so rare that I don´t think such species would appear.



Zorcuspine	Nov 18 2011, 09:46 PM Post #12
You never cease to suprise me blue hedgehog Posts: 1,041 Group: Members Member #327 Joined: Jun 12, 2010 Gender: Male Nationality: US Favorite Quote: "You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty." Mahatma Gandhi	Electreel Nov 18 2011, 08:24 PM Of course!! Northern zones (Siberia, northernmost Canada), where taiga, cold steppe and even tundra predominate, would be covered in snow during winter; though I don´t know about glaciers. Same happens in Antarctica, which would possess very little icecap (here glaciers would surely occurr) I just meant that these places in northern zones would be so rare that I don´t think such species would appear. Okay good to know



Aiosian_Lord_Kaihoan	Nov 18 2011, 10:14 PM Post #13
I felt that one... Posts: 435 Group: Members Member #630 Joined: Oct 8, 2011 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: Scottish (Though, lives in Kent, Washington presently) Favorite Quote: A man does what he must - in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles and dangers and pressures - and that is the basis of all human morality. - Winston Churchill	Well, it's still possible. Pygmy Stiltboars would just be an endangered species.



Electreel	Nov 19 2011, 12:57 PM Post #14
Galactic seed of Megazostrodon Posts: 105 Group: Members Member #646 Joined: Oct 31, 2011 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Future Evolution Nationality: Spain Favorite Quote: "We are a way to the cosmos to know itself"	As a relict from a much colder past? Ok, it´s possible.



Zorcuspine	Nov 19 2011, 01:45 PM Post #15
You never cease to suprise me blue hedgehog Posts: 1,041 Group: Members Member #327 Joined: Jun 12, 2010 Gender: Male Nationality: US Favorite Quote: "You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty." Mahatma Gandhi	Here are some animals I expect to diversify quite a lot in the Allocene (not including the ones already listed): Seagulls Crows Pigeons Cane Toad Squirrels Coyotes White Tailed Deer Duiker Common Coqui Corn Snake Common European Viper Garter Snake Fence Lizard Honey Badger Wilderbeast Mara Flying Squid Humbolt Squid Cassowary All of these creatures will have many descendents in my own project



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