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Ideas and Concepts.
Topic Started: Aug 17 2011, 03:32 PM (8,756 Views)
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We all have cool ideas for things we'd love to do or make, art, novels, films and so on. But unless you actually have something to show us such as concept art or a first draft I think you should discuss it here so we don't have dozens of topics of people talking about their cool ideas.
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Funny you're saying I'm upset when you're the one making a fuss. I get how you feel, I feel the same way every time Harry Turtledove makes Britain fascist or conqoured. But it is not personal.

This one is a work in progress, I want to give the USA a little more Mexico, but I'm not sure how much I want to give. All of Chihuahua seems too much.

I'm also not sure about the Philippines. China and Japan are likely to get really enthusiastic about "Asian Liberation" once they have defeated the Italians and got the French out of Indochina, so they might try and challenge the USA. I might give them Cuba, but I think I'll just keep it in their sphere of influence rather than direct annexation.

The USA is doing very well, it did not get the massive boost it got from WW1, because there has been no Great War. But that also means there was no collapse and great depression. Apart from Dominica and Nicaragua which are pro-German and the scattered European colonies the USA dominates everything south of Canada and north of Panama.
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I have not focused on the USA in this one, because the only major difference is that Puerto Rico is a state, the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands is still administered by the USA and most of the military facilities in Okinawa were transferred to Korea or Guam. Oh and manufacturing is still very strong, because China stuck with Maoism rather than capitalism Socialism with Chinese characteristics. And they have been to Mars. The Americans that is, the Chinese are still in the "Oh God where does everything keep exploding" phase of space exploration.
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Actually if any of you guys have played Hearts of Iron, you will know its the ultimate what if machine. Currently in the game im playing as Germany, much of Western Europe has fallen. Nationalist Spain and Portugal have both joined the Axis and are laying siege to Gibraltar (we have been trying for about 6 months now to take the sodding place) Britain fell in an amphibious invasion through scotland, the troops came from Sweden and Finland (also axis members who invaded Norway). Japan takes much of asia and Vladivostok and is currently steaming across india, the Aussies are holding Indonesia though. The Bulgarians have taken Turkey and are currently aiding persia into taking Jerusalem. Although Navally the US and Canada still dominate and we are laregely restricted to the 'Old world'. Although germany is currently grooming Argentina and Mexico into declaring war on the US, biding us time for an assault through Florida.... (its 1951 by the way)

That is my kind of alternate history
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Nov 21 2011, 07:25 AM
Funny you're saying I'm upset when you're the one making a fuss. I get how you feel, I feel the same way every time Harry Turtledove makes Britain fascist or conqoured. But it is not personal.

This one is a work in progress, I want to give the USA a little more Mexico, but I'm not sure how much I want to give. All of Chihuahua seems too much.

I'm also not sure about the Philippines. China and Japan are likely to get really enthusiastic about "Asian Liberation" once they have defeated the Italians and got the French out of Indochina, so they might try and challenge the USA. I might give them Cuba, but I think I'll just keep it in their sphere of influence rather than direct annexation.

The USA is doing very well, it did not get the massive boost it got from WW1, because there has been no Great War. But that also means there was no collapse and great depression. Apart from Dominica and Nicaragua which are pro-German and the scattered European colonies the USA dominates everything south of Canada and north of Panama.
http://lamnay.deviantart.com/art/Austrian-Sabah-and-other-oddities-268304056

I have not focused on the USA in this one, because the only major difference is that Puerto Rico is a state, the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands is still administered by the USA and most of the military facilities in Okinawa were transferred to Korea or Guam. Oh and manufacturing is still very strong, because China stuck with Maoism rather than capitalism Socialism with Chinese characteristics. And they have been to Mars. The Americans that is, the Chinese are still in the "Oh God where does everything keep exploding" phase of space exploration.
http://lamnay.deviantart.com/gallery/30976172
The U MAD thing is refering to Eurovision.

Can't decide on a part of Mexico? Go with Baja California. Damn Mexicans stole our land! It's our peninsula, you hear? GAH!

About the one with the possible "Asian Liberation", was there a WWI, WWII, and Cold War? If so, the China-Japanese alliance might be aprehensive about taking on the country that nuked them in WWII, as well as being known for having the second largest nulclear stockpile, not to mention being allies with the other three nuclear powers, Britain, France, and Russia.

Not to mention that the U.S. and Russia alone have them penned in. Add on other factors like Russia having that bitterly cold winter that has won them so many wars, the U.S. having the most powerful navy on the planet,(And still assuming Britain, Russia, and France get dragged in) we can add in the Russian, French, and British Navies, and finally, our nation thrives on war.

Remember, this is all assuing you kept the Great Wars and the Cold War.
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I don't care about music, not least extra shitty music.

I just went crazy in the end and grabbed the whole of the North of Mexico, almost all the way down to where all the people are.

No, there was a minor war in Europe where Austria, Germany, Sweden and Turkey beat up France and Russia. Italy is butt-hurt that Portugal has better colonies that it does*, and demanded a port from China. China told them to go to hell, and the Italians invaded and fought a long and bloody war until the Japanese gave them a right good thrashing. France went all Fascist after the European War and wants to conquer the whole of Vietnam (and are quite friendly with Italy).

They are going to fail, then loose Cochinchina to Vietnam. This might lead to a cold war between Japan-China and the western colonial powers. I had not intended it to go that way, but its an interesting concept. I decided to make Russia a flawed democracy, and a republic. Makes a nice change from what I usually do with is either EVIL USSR or ENLIGHTENED TSARDOM.

*In real life after WW1 they demanded parts of Angola from Portugal, even though Portugal fought on the same side as them.
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No, there was a minor war in Europe where Austria, Germany, Sweden and Turkey beat up France and Russia. Italy is butt-hurt that Portugal has better colonies that it does*, and demanded a port from China. China told them to go to hell, and the Italians invaded and fought a long and bloody war until the Japanese gave them a right good thrashing. France went all Fascist after the European War and wants to conquer the whole of Vietnam (and are quite friendly with Italy).
Where Denmark and Britain in all of this? Off drinking tea and playing Texas Hold 'Em?
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His thing had France and Sweden involved. Frace get's involved, Britain will find some excuse to meddle. And Danes and Swedes have been at each other's throats for a looooooong time.
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The Danes would like to get control of Jutland, and maybe get the Nicobar Islands back from Austria, but they were dominated by Germany at this time. And unlike in the real world, Germany and friends won. Denmark stayed neutral and got nothing, other than being able to keep the Danish Virgin Islands.

Both France and Germany respected Belgian and Luxembourgish neutrality, so Britain did not get involved. Britain was worried about Germany's rise but France's interference in Africa and Russia's in Central Asia managed to cancel that out and they sided with nobody, and so their economy was only shaken and not destroyed.

I've expanded the USA well into Mexico, and given them a pretty vast sphere of influence in the America's. But I took away the mainland of the Alaska panhandle for Canada. I want to build a little more tension between the USA and Britain, plus British Columbia looks good with a little bit extra coastline.

The Blue thing is the Federal Republic of Central America, and its very heavily influenced by the USA. I've left Mexico white because, while Mexico is dominated by the USA its leaders are looking towards Germany and Austria for help becoming less dependent on the USA. Maybe they'll create a Third Mexican Empire, and maybe it will actually last this time.
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Maybe there should just be a topic for this... I don't think this thread was meant for in-depth discussion of one project.
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Its still in the concept phase. Plus someone on the internet is wrong. I have to prove that too them, otherwise... something bad.
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Why is that bay in the top right colored Red? Did the Canuks pull an Alexander the Great and fill it in with rocks?
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Because that's Labrador, part of the Dominion of Newfoundland at this time (vaguely 40's). Probably going to end up joining Canada eventually like it did in the real world.

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Why you no include it on map first time around?
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Because I was showing differences to the parts of the USA in the Americas. It was already big enough that Imageshack squashed it a bit. Much larger and it would have looked a lot worse, or I'd have to cut of parts of the American's sphere of influence, which would have removed the point.
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Well why not use DeviantART to host your images, like me? Then there's no squashing.
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