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Shoveljaw; One of the last of the whales!
Topic Started: Jul 31 2011, 10:45 AM (590 Views)
Zorcuspine	Jul 31 2011, 10:45 AM Post #1
You never cease to suprise me blue hedgehog Posts: 1,041 Group: Members Member #327 Joined: Jun 12, 2010 Gender: Male Nationality: US Favorite Quote: "You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty." Mahatma Gandhi	The Holocene extinctions affected whales tremendously, causing the complete extinction of baleen whales and the decline of many other species. The few that do survive have taken very specialized niches. Case and point is the shoveljaw, descended from modern day bottlenose dolphins. Like the Shoveltoothed elephants before them, they have developed a spoon like lower jaw. It uses this weird adaptation to scoop up shellfish hiding in the sea bed. It has a very powerful bite, and can crush the shell of a mollusk with very little difficulty. Like its ancestor its a very social and intelligent animal, using clicks and whistles to communicate with others of its kind.



SIngemeister	Aug 5 2011, 01:32 PM Post #2
Hive Tyrant of the Essee Swarm Posts: 4,792 Group: Members Member #49 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Formerly Anglo-Irish, now Gribbly Favorite Quote: "That's the least funniest thing ever." "BURNING ORPHANS!"	Personally, I think this is a fairly plausible creature. Maybe you could add a poll?



Zorcuspine	Aug 5 2011, 03:24 PM Post #3
You never cease to suprise me blue hedgehog Posts: 1,041 Group: Members Member #327 Joined: Jun 12, 2010 Gender: Male Nationality: US Favorite Quote: "You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty." Mahatma Gandhi	SIngemeister Aug 5 2011, 01:32 PM Personally, I think this is a fairly plausible creature. Maybe you could add a poll? done



FallingWhale	Aug 5 2011, 04:56 PM Post #4
Adult Posts: 791 Group: Members Member #457 Joined: Dec 24, 2010 Gender: Male Nationality: USA Favorite Quote: I have second thoughts. Maybe God is malicious.- Albert Einstein	How big is it?



Cephylus	Aug 6 2011, 12:20 AM Post #5
Berseerrrrrkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk Posts: 1,219 Group: Members Member #313 Joined: May 14, 2010 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Alternative Evolution Nationality: South Korean	But remember, all cetaceans were supposed to have gone extinct in this project.



SIngemeister	Aug 6 2011, 04:06 AM Post #6
Hive Tyrant of the Essee Swarm Posts: 4,792 Group: Members Member #49 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Formerly Anglo-Irish, now Gribbly Favorite Quote: "That's the least funniest thing ever." "BURNING ORPHANS!"	We're a little lax on total extinction of Cetaceans, and it seems mainly to refer to the oceanic cetaceans, which are definitely entirely extinct. We can possibly be a little flexible on freshwater species, as there are, as far as I can see, no replacements for their niches as yet. Also, I believe this would be better as a porpoise, which already eat crustaceans.



El Squibbonator	Aug 6 2011, 06:30 AM Post #7
The Third Child Posts: 1,803 Group: Members Member #169 Joined: May 5, 2009 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Future Evolution Nationality: USA Favorite Quote: Maybe if we started looking at whats the same instead of always looking at whats different. . .well, who knows-- Meowth	But freshwater ceteceans (read: river dolphins) are critically endangered and therefore even less likely to make it.



Bexi	Aug 6 2011, 06:36 AM Post #8
not a Transhuman Posts: 2,875 Group: Members Member #282 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Future Evolution Nationality: Moravian	true,and there is a "little bit" lack of information for this animal



SIngemeister	Aug 6 2011, 08:39 AM Post #9
Hive Tyrant of the Essee Swarm Posts: 4,792 Group: Members Member #49 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Formerly Anglo-Irish, now Gribbly Favorite Quote: "That's the least funniest thing ever." "BURNING ORPHANS!"	El Squibbonator Aug 6 2011, 06:30 AM But freshwater ceteceans (read: river dolphins) are critically endangered and therefore even less likely to make it. There is the Finless Porpoise, a freshwater/estuary Japanese cetacean that is merely vulnerable.



Zorcuspine	Aug 6 2011, 11:26 AM Post #10
You never cease to suprise me blue hedgehog Posts: 1,041 Group: Members Member #327 Joined: Jun 12, 2010 Gender: Male Nationality: US Favorite Quote: "You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty." Mahatma Gandhi	Cephylus Aug 6 2011, 12:20 AM But remember, all cetaceans were supposed to have gone extinct in this project. The bottlenose dolphin is a generalist, intelligent and has a worldwide distribution. It will get through the Holocene just fine. Also the Shoveljaw is around the same size as my ancestor, maybe a few inches smaller.



Russwallac	Aug 7 2011, 01:59 PM Post #11
"Ta-da!" Posts: 2,896 Group: Members Member #574 Joined: May 27, 2011 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: Animalia, Chordata, Mammalia, Primates, Hominidae, Homo sapiens sapiens Favorite Quote: One cannot define what life IS, but we sure as heck can define what it ISN'T.	Sadly, in all likelihood, cetaceans will go extinct very soon (possibly within our own lifetimes). The creature itself is plausible, but its chances of surviving the Holocene extinction are practically nil.



Zorcuspine	Aug 7 2011, 02:46 PM Post #12
You never cease to suprise me blue hedgehog Posts: 1,041 Group: Members Member #327 Joined: Jun 12, 2010 Gender: Male Nationality: US Favorite Quote: "You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty." Mahatma Gandhi	Russwallac Aug 7 2011, 01:59 PM Sadly, in all likelihood, cetaceans will go extinct very soon (possibly within our own lifetimes). The creature itself is plausible, but its chances of surviving the Holocene extinction are practically nil. But this species of dolphin is not endangered and I don't think its vulnerable either. If bears make it through dolphins will make it through. Trust me



Canis Lupis	Aug 7 2011, 05:23 PM Post #13
I'm watching you. Posts: 5,540 Group: Global Mods Member #95 Joined: Oct 16, 2008 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Future Evolution Nationality: United States Favorite Quote: "A speccer once tried to tell me I was wrong. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti."	Delphinids (dolphins and killer whales) are the most likely cetaceans to make it past the Holocene extinction. Will other cetaceans be extinct? I have no doubt about that. But the marine delphinids are so generalistic, so intelligent, so versatile that I think they'll make it through. Will they diversify to reclaim the cetacean's former glory? Who knows? Personally, I think seals will begin to move in to take former cetacean niches. But delphinids will definitely survive in some form or another. So yes, I see this concept as plausible.



Zorcuspine	Aug 8 2011, 01:41 PM Post #14
You never cease to suprise me blue hedgehog Posts: 1,041 Group: Members Member #327 Joined: Jun 12, 2010 Gender: Male Nationality: US Favorite Quote: "You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty." Mahatma Gandhi	Canis Lupis Aug 7 2011, 05:23 PM Delphinids (dolphins and killer whales) are the most likely cetaceans to make it past the Holocene extinction. Will other cetaceans be extinct? I have no doubt about that. But the marine delphinids are so generalistic, so intelligent, so versatile that I think they'll make it through. Will they diversify to reclaim the cetacean's former glory? Who knows? Personally, I think seals will begin to move in to take former cetacean niches. But delphinids will definitely survive in some form or another. So yes, I see this concept as plausible. So is it excepted?



FallingWhale	Aug 8 2011, 08:02 PM Post #15
Adult Posts: 791 Group: Members Member #457 Joined: Dec 24, 2010 Gender: Male Nationality: USA Favorite Quote: I have second thoughts. Maybe God is malicious.- Albert Einstein	Size?



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