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fire breath
Topic Started: May 4 2011, 02:35 PM (844 Views)
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i've heard some of the talk on this in my ice breath topic, i couldn't find any topic on it, so i thought i should make one. this is fire breath. now the only problem i've heard for this is that it would kill the animal using it, but i think there is a movie that found a way around this. this movie is called Reign of Fire. here is a poster of the movie to help show my point.

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these dragons spit 2 chemicals that meet a distance away form the creature and burst into flame, as can be seen. i think this could prove that a fire breathing animal could really happen. what do you guys think?
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We already have a number of topics like this, and I think the consensus is that yes, it's possible, but for whatever reason it hasn't happened on Earth.
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oh, well i didn't see them. also, there are some people who didn't think it could be.
Edited by trex841, May 4 2011, 04:10 PM.
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Are you plausible?

Part of the doubt about its plausibility may stem from evolutionary pressures. Can you present a scenario in which such traits would come about?
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(The film's not very good, or scientific. :P )

Depends what two chemicals. Will they need ignition? If so, this won't work. If it's an exothermic reaction, will it produce enough heat? Will it stay around for long enough?
Can it be propelled far enough?

As for the evolution of it, perhaps the same reason the bombardier beetle or any kind of animal spitting toxic fluids evolved that way- defense.
Cooking would be very hard to evolve for.
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May 9 2011, 02:12 PM
(The film's not very good, or scientific. :P )

Depends what two chemicals. Will they need ignition? If so, this won't work. If it's an exothermic reaction, will it produce enough heat? Will it stay around for long enough?
Can it be propelled far enough?

As for the evolution of it, perhaps the same reason the bombardier beetle or any kind of animal spitting toxic fluids evolved that way- defense.
Cooking would be very hard to evolve for.
1. ...ya, i know :")

2. there has to be 2 chemicals that work like in the movie, right? anyone?

3. defence is a very good explanation, but cooking could work, if played out just right. or they could start wildfires and eat whatever burned... which is almost like what the movie did! eureka moment!
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Are you plausible?

Holbenilord is pointing out some very important points to consider for this concept. First off, if you're using Reign of Fire as a starting point for your own fire-breathers that's well and good, but the movie itself wasn't that stringent about plausibility. Sure, it came up with an explanation that helps suspend disbelief, but as a whole it wasn't the most biologically plausible organism. So start with the chemical combination combined in exhalation, research what kind of chemicals do anything like that, along with the physical details of exothermic reactions, and present your findings.

Second off, if you say things like, "cooking would work if played out just right," let's see how it plays out just right. Put together your scenario, explain how it overcomes whatever obstacles it needs to to become plausible and what causes a metabolic necessity for the fire-breather to need to eat charred food, then you'll learn a lot more than just asking us what we think about it.
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...did i just get homework?

well, um...all i had planed was to see if the people who thought that fire breath would damage the animal think that this chemical spray would fix the problem. i kind of got off on a tangent with the rest.

also, i meant cooking like akin to how we cook.

one last thing, i like to ask people who know about these kind of thing to find the answers i'm looking for, because looking around online, i can't always find what i need.
Edited by trex841, May 10 2011, 07:52 PM.
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