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involuntary shudder; Yes, Dougal Dixon again
Topic Started: Jul 10 2008, 01:49 PM (6,069 Views)
Sliver Slave	Jul 10 2008, 01:49 PM Post #1
I'm going back to basics. Posts: 1,857 Group: Away Staff Member #30 Joined: Jul 6, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Canadian. Just like Phasey!	Did anyone else get an involuntary shudder when they read man after man or nemo ramjet's all tomorrows? I know I sure did. There was just something about those two books that unsettles me. Or do I just have a weak constitution?
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Ànraich	Jul 30 2008, 12:26 PM Post #16
L'évolution Spéculative est moi Posts: 9,258 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: May 27, 2008	The future in 3001 was complex. Mars had been colonized and had been terraforming since the late 21st century. Venus had some scientific outposts and was being terraformed via comets and ice asteroids being flung into it. Ganymede had been terraformed along with other moons around Lucifer (Jupiter, artificially collapsed into a star by a Monolith). There was lots of diverse life on Europa that had been able to evolve over the past thousand years because of Lucifer melting the ice. Lots of interesting technology like reverse bioengineering and inertia fields were employed in everyday life. Earth was a very foul place, the air smelled bad and burned the eyes and lungs, it was dirty and litter was everywhere. Lots of animals that had been artificially created or cloned back to life (velociraptors were one of these species) had been introduced into ecosystems (and subsequently ruined their balance). It was all quite believable.
	We should all aspire to die surrounded by our dearest friends. Just like Julius Caesar. "The Lord Universe said: 'The same fate I have given to all things from stones to stars, that one day they shall become naught but memories aloft upon the winds of time. From dust all was born, and to dust all shall return.' He then looked upon His greatest creation, life, and pitied them, for unlike stars and stones they would soon learn of this fate and despair in the futility of their own existence. And so the Lord Universe decided to give life two gifts to save them from this despair. The first of these gifts was the soul, that life might more readily accept their fate, and the second was fear, that they might in time learn to avoid it altogether." - Excerpt from a Chanagwan creation myth, Legends and Folklore of the Planet Ghar, collected and published by Yieju Bai'an, explorer from the Celestial Commonwealth of Qonming Tree That Owns Itself


Sliver Slave	Jul 30 2008, 12:41 PM Post #17
I'm going back to basics. Posts: 1,857 Group: Away Staff Member #30 Joined: Jul 6, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Canadian. Just like Phasey!	Sounds..interesting.
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lamna	Jul 30 2008, 06:46 PM Post #18
Posts: 21,140 Group: Global Mods Member #26 Joined: Jul 1, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: British	I don't remember earth being like that. Earth seemed like a fine place, but very little goes on terra firma so I may have missed it. The short trip to earth seems to show it to be a pleasant place, elephants and lions are still around, though the lions seem to be far tamer than they are in the present. Crocs as I remember are as wild as ever. I forget what had happened to mars, but I don’t think it was somewhere you could go without a pressure suit. I really don’t think terraforming had got very far. Ganymede was not therefore, though they were starting. People had not left the system yet by 3001. The population on earth is mentioned to be below 1 billion. Weather is refers to people on the surface or includes the orbital towers is unknown. Unlike what seems like most people of this era the people of 3001 are not scared of precise genetic modification, indeed people prefer live animals to robots whenever possible. The gardens in space are tended by recreated raptors (herbivores don’t have the concentration don’t you know) and the original monolith, the one that kick started mankind was dug up with the help of engineered gorillas. The point is, we are not whizzing round at the speed of light and meeting attractive aliens or world identical to earth, apart from the odd monster to fight. Songs of Distant Earth deals with a problem with the sun being found in the 20th century that means we will have to escape the solar system by some time around 4500 I think. First is done with ships carrying ova, then ships that carry DNA as information, and finally the last ship is a sleeper ship. (I hope the Mormon and the Muslim ships did not succeed) The sleeper ship Magellan stops off at mostly water planet of Thalassa on it’s way to Sagan 2. A few of the crew of the Magellan wake up fix their Pykrete shield with water and seaweed. They meet the locals, who’s colony did not fail, the just did not get round to fixing the transmitter. Ok, they are a little silly, but still more realistic that what often passes for "science" fiction.
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Ànraich	Jul 30 2008, 07:24 PM Post #19
L'évolution Spéculative est moi Posts: 9,258 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: May 27, 2008	Now that you say all that I feel stupid. It's been a loooong time since I read 3001. I think I might have mixed it with a different book I read too, but I'm not sure.
	We should all aspire to die surrounded by our dearest friends. Just like Julius Caesar. "The Lord Universe said: 'The same fate I have given to all things from stones to stars, that one day they shall become naught but memories aloft upon the winds of time. From dust all was born, and to dust all shall return.' He then looked upon His greatest creation, life, and pitied them, for unlike stars and stones they would soon learn of this fate and despair in the futility of their own existence. And so the Lord Universe decided to give life two gifts to save them from this despair. The first of these gifts was the soul, that life might more readily accept their fate, and the second was fear, that they might in time learn to avoid it altogether." - Excerpt from a Chanagwan creation myth, Legends and Folklore of the Planet Ghar, collected and published by Yieju Bai'an, explorer from the Celestial Commonwealth of Qonming Tree That Owns Itself


Sliver Slave	Aug 9 2008, 02:08 PM Post #20
I'm going back to basics. Posts: 1,857 Group: Away Staff Member #30 Joined: Jul 6, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Canadian. Just like Phasey!	I just got ahold of Last and First Men. Let me just say the first 3 chapters are incredibly boring, an I just skimmed through them. Its cultural depictions of the future interesting, if not entirely believable. For example, for thousands of years into the future, almost all technology was coal based, even though they had the technology for what I assume was some sort of infinite energy for nothing scheme. And when the far future civilization was reduced to ridiculously low numbers, it kinda got hard to read. But the post humans being enslaved and eaten. By semi-intelligent monkeys was strange. shudder EDIT: This book gets better and better. Those martians sure are original. Edited by Sliver Slave, Aug 10 2008, 10:19 PM.
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truteal	Sep 30 2008, 04:28 AM Post #21
forum bigfoot Posts: 895 Group: Members Member #13 Joined: Jun 8, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: the great southern land Favorite Quote: "there's something that's called "adult animation" and it usually means it appeals to adolensent, teenage boys and that's not really adult in my view" George Griffin	sorry for the bump but this thing definitely deserves a involuntary shudder http://www.geocities.co.jp/Technopolis/9540/anothermanafterman.html
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Carlos	Sep 30 2008, 11:28 AM Post #22
Adveho in me Lucifero Posts: 11,702 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: May 31, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Portugayse Favorite Quote: Blame is the playing of children and is given to many like a gift that cannot be returned. Acceptance is the tool of the mature that is rarely loaned out.	Thats just what we needed; asian madness...
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agatharights	Sep 30 2008, 11:49 AM Post #23
Prime Specimen Posts: 1,835 Group: Members Member #82 Joined: Sep 22, 2008 Gender: Female Nationality: American Also known as: Agatha	quietly points to avatar ...that's all I have to contribute on Dougal Dixon. (man, he looks more normal than I thought he would...)
	Everything is Transformers and Dungeons & Dragons and nothing hurts.


Carlos	Sep 30 2008, 11:59 AM Post #24
Adveho in me Lucifero Posts: 11,702 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: May 31, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Portugayse Favorite Quote: Blame is the playing of children and is given to many like a gift that cannot be returned. Acceptance is the tool of the mature that is rarely loaned out.	At least compared with those guys that made that site. Althugh I still have troubles accepting that he wasn't drunk when he made The New Dinosaurs
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agatharights	Sep 30 2008, 12:09 PM Post #25
Prime Specimen Posts: 1,835 Group: Members Member #82 Joined: Sep 22, 2008 Gender: Female Nationality: American Also known as: Agatha	It makes more things make sense when you think of all authors and artists as ingesting controlled substances. nodnod Attempting to read/translate the site ...crap, I forgot all my kanji...
	Everything is Transformers and Dungeons & Dragons and nothing hurts.


Sliver Slave	Sep 30 2008, 12:23 PM Post #26
I'm going back to basics. Posts: 1,857 Group: Away Staff Member #30 Joined: Jul 6, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Canadian. Just like Phasey!	Google translater!
	Something is upsetting the ostriches. Spoiler: click to toggle Awesome sigatar by MethosHazara on the Giant in the Playground forums.


lamna	Sep 30 2008, 01:37 PM Post #27
Posts: 21,140 Group: Global Mods Member #26 Joined: Jul 1, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: British	Yeah that is really useful. Quote: Involution of human organs is smaller and has a thin limbs and a miserable end to the mass of flesh. No avail shriveled body and legs were completely paralyzed. The feature has been the only sensory organs and genitals.In contrast to the significantly bigger brain - the size of the human race has reached about 10 times, the body of them in poor to support a huge brain from the moment can not be born, was built on man-made "Another body" to help protect the body. In the body needed for the survival of an ancient gene was cloned from the stock - and healthy - is clogged organ of the body. The human brain in a giant intellect and the "super power" has to give. Human life on the hardwood, and food are proliferating in the lake. A dark blue algae staple food - the power of genetic engineering in food and as the sun is turning - in the development of the "super powers" to eat with. Lake of food, "psychic powers" to move the tree, or by teleportation to move around the lake itself. And that is one weird creature.
	Living Fossils Fósseis Vibos: Reserva Natural 34 MYH, 4 tonne dinosaur. T.Neo Are nipples or genitals necessary, lamna? [flash=500,450] Video Magic! [/flash]


Carlos	Sep 30 2008, 01:45 PM Post #28
Adveho in me Lucifero Posts: 11,702 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: May 31, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Portugayse Favorite Quote: Blame is the playing of children and is given to many like a gift that cannot be returned. Acceptance is the tool of the mature that is rarely loaned out.	I was right: they are mad. Please, are psychic powers even possible?
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agatharights	Sep 30 2008, 01:59 PM Post #29
Prime Specimen Posts: 1,835 Group: Members Member #82 Joined: Sep 22, 2008 Gender: Female Nationality: American Also known as: Agatha	o_O I don't even know. The Sci-Fi nerd in me wants to say yes. But in this context, all I can say is "OH GOD I CAN'T UNSEE IT"
	Everything is Transformers and Dungeons & Dragons and nothing hurts.


truteal	Sep 30 2008, 04:16 PM Post #30
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	My sporadically updated Youtube page Do you get it? I hardly ever come here so I'm like something a cryptozoologist would study


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