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| Topic Started: Mar 11 2011, 06:27 PM (3,474 Views) | |
| lamna | Mar 21 2011, 03:30 PM Post #46 |
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I'm interested mostly in "sensible" cryptids. Stuff like the pygmy forest elephants and British big cats. |
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| Carlos | Mar 21 2011, 04:57 PM Post #47 |
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Adveho in me Lucifero
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As am I tired of saying, dinosaurs died alongside much more adaptable creatures like notosuchians and enetiornithes. If those things died and even most cryptozoologists don't bother to claim their existence in modern times, could someone explain then how living non-avian dinosaurs are likely when the probabilities of their extinction are endlessly higher than those of small metatherians? Edited by Carlos, Mar 21 2011, 04:58 PM.
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| Kamidio | Mar 21 2011, 06:09 PM Post #48 |
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Have you ever seen a jumping spider? The things look kinda like frogs. |
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| FallingWhale | Mar 21 2011, 09:06 PM Post #49 |
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Have you? They're tiny. |
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| xaritscin | Mar 21 2011, 09:32 PM Post #50 |
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more cryptids: -the Gevaudan Beast: reports of several attacks in a French town on 1800?...the villagers blamed it was a big canid creature who was killing women and children who ventured on the forest. the history says it was a giant wolf...but never was a real proof... -the Alicanto: a giant flying bird of south american folk (in the southern part of the continent)... -the Souther Narwhal: In 1615 a ship was struck by a horned animal in the mid Atlantic, the horn itself found embedded in the hull; in 1620 a small, dark blue porpoise-like animal with a high fin and a tusk 1-2 feet in length was sighted swimming in the Southern Atlantic off South Africa while in 1893 a narwhal-like animal was seen in the Bransfield Strait off the Antarctic Peninsula. Narwhals are a strictly northern species and that the Southern Narwhal was either a mis-identification of a pre-existing species or populations of Narwhals or Narwhal-like animals probably thrived around Antarctica at some point or other. One other probable creature that had been suggested was a sword fish (dark blue, high fin with the long bill that could easily be mistaken as a horn) if it weren't for the fact that they are a tropical species. Reference: Mysterious Creatures: A Guide to Cryptozoology by George M. Eberhart (2002) -Giglioni's Whale( Amphiptera Pacifica: On September 4, 1867 on board a ship called the Magenta about 1200 miles off the coast of Chile, the zoologist spotted a species of whale which he could not recognize. It was very close to the ship (too close to shoot with a cannon) and was observed for a quarter of an hour, allowing Giglioli to make very detailed observations. The whale looked overall similar to a rorqual, 60 feet (18 m) long with an elongated body, but the most notable difference was the presence of two large dorsal fins about 6.5 feet (2 m) apart. No known whales have twin fins, the rorqual only has a single fin and some other whales have none. Other unusual features include the presence of two long sickle-shaped flippers and a lack of furrows present under the throats of rorquals. Another report of a two finned whale of roughly the same size was recorded from the ship Lily off the coast of Scotland the following year. In 1983 between Corsica and the French mainland, French zoologist Jacques Maigret sighted a similar looking creature. -the Adjule: The Adjule, also known as Kelb-el-khela, is a canine cryptid, claimed to inhabit the North African region, especially the areas in and around Sahara Desert in Mauritania. Reported primarily by the nomadic Tuaregs, and Théodore Monod in 1928, the adjule is said to be a totally unknown canine which takes the form of a dog or wolf, but today is described as isolated population of African wild dog. Some alternative names are kelb el khela ("bush dog") for the male and tarhsît for the female. However, despite a continuing firm belief in its existence due to urban myths, this cryptid has since been debunked and its sightings attributed to wild canines mistaken for the adjule, such as the African Wild Dog which is now extinct in certain areas of the Sahara. There is one unconfirmed sighting of a canid-like animal from the coastal area of Mauritania in 1992; hunters living in the coastal areas of the Western Sahara, to the north of Mauritania, described an animal resembling a wild dog, which hunted in packs. However, this was not confirmed for Lycaon pictus species (IUCN/CSG, 1997). -Andean Wolf: In 1927 Lorenz Hagenbeck bought one of three pelts from a dealer in Buenos Aires who claimed that they had come from a wild dog of the Andes. When Dr. Ingo Krumbiegel studied the skin in Germany in 1940, he concluded that it belonged to a new and still undescribed species. Scientists in the 1960s discovered that the pelt belonged to a domestic dog, possibly a Sheep dog. A 2000 attempt at DNA analysis of the remaining pelt at Munich’s zoological museum failed because it was contaminated with human, dog, wolf, and pig DNA, and had been chemically treated (Eberhart, 2002). Skull: In 1947, Krumiegel connected the pelt with a skull he had discovered about ten years earlier. He claimed the skull was 31 centimeters long and belonged to an omnivorous canid substantially larger than a Maned wolf, as Maned wolf skulls are smaller, about 24 cm. He published a paper describing the animal and suggesting a scientific name for it: Dasycyon hagenbecki, though the skull had allegedly been lost in 1945 during World War II and was not available for peer review. -Dingonek: The dingonek or Jungle Walrus is a cryptid walrus that purportedly lives in the heart of western Africa. -Elasmotherium?: It is believed that Elasmotherium died out in prehistoric times. However, according to science writer and cryptozoologist Willy Ley, the animal may have survived long enough to be remembered in the legends of the Evenk and Yakut people of Russia as a huge black or gray bull with long fur and a single horn in the forehead (the Indrik). There is also a testimony by the medieval traveller Ibn Fadlan which has been interpreted by some[2] to indicate that Elasmotherium may have survived into historical times. Ibn Fadlan's account states[3]: Near this river is a vast wilderness wherein they say is an animal that is less than a camel and more like a bull in size. Its head is like the head of a camel, and its tail is like the tail of a bull, while its body is like the body of a mule, and its hooves are like the cloven hooves of a bull. In the center of its head, it has a thick round horn, which as it rises from the head of the animal gets to be thinner until it becomes like the point of a lance. The length of some of these horns is from three to five cubits, and there are those that may attain to a greater or lesser length. The animal grazes on the leaves of trees, which are quite green. When it sees a horseman, it makes straight for him, and if he happens to have under him a fast horse, he is rendered safe from it with some effort. If it overtakes him, it removes him from the back of his horse with its horn, hurls him into the air, and then catches him with its horn. It continues in this manner until it kills him. It does not bother the horse in any form or manner. They seek out this animal in the forests in order to kill it. They do that by climbing the tall trees among which it is found, and with this object in mind, they assemble a number of archers with poisoned arrows. When it stands in their midst, they shoot at it until it is severely wounded and killed by them. I saw in the king's house three large bowls which looked like [they were made of] the onyx of Yemen. The king informed me that it was made from the base of the horn of the animal. Some of the people of the country told me that it was a rhinoceros. Some have argued that the survival of Elasmotherium into historical times may be the source of the unicorn myth, as the animal's description could be argued to fit with the Persian karkadann unicorn, and the Chinese zhi unicorn.[4] An article that appeared in a 1993 issue of French magazine Le Point refers to a sighting of a large horned animal, with a woolly fur coat in Siberia by a young man the previous year but gives no further details on the incident. -the Gnome of Girona: The so called Gnomo de Girona (Gnome of Girona) is the name given to the remains of an animal or a fetus (abnormal or not) found near Girona, Catalonia (Spain) in September 1989 that aroused some attention from the Spanish media, especially some TV programs specialized in parapsychology and the paranormal such as En los límites de la realidad and Otra dimensión. "morphology": The body was bluish, devoid of hair, with some little spots mainly in neck and face. Its total length was approximately 12 centimeters. It showed a protuberance in the forehead area, elongated ears, reddish eyes and a snout similar to that of rodents. Its fingers showed interdigital membranes. -Gunni: The Gunni was a wombat-like cryptid with antlers, purportedly formerly found near Marysville.[1] A stuffed one was on display in the Marysville Visitors' Information Centre, along with other local wildlife including a Lyrebird and Leadbeater's possum, prior to the February 2009 Victorian bushfires. Reportedly, only three Gunnis have ever been found and the creature is generally regarded as a hoax originated in 2003. -Hokkaido Wolf: The Hokkaidō Wolf, known in Japan as the Ezo Wolf (エゾオオカミ(蝦夷狼), Ezo Ōkami?, Canis lupus hattai), is one of the two extinct subspecies of Canis lupus that have been called the Japanese Wolf. The other is the Honshū Wolf. This endemic wolf of Japan occupied the island of Hokkaidō. The Hokkaidō Wolf was larger than the Honshū Wolf, more closely approaching the size of a regular Gray Wolf. The Hokkaidō Wolf became extinct during the Meiji restoration period. The wolf was deemed a threat to ranching (which the Meiji government promoted at the time) and targeted via a bounty system and a direct chemical extermination campaign. Hokkaido experienced significant development during this period and the Hokkaidō Wolf also suffered from resulting environmental disruption Sightings of the Hokkaidō Wolf have been claimed from the time of its extinction to the present day, but none of these have been verified -the Manatee of Helena: The Manatee of Helena is a cryptid believed to have once inhabited the coast of St. Helena.[1] There is very little scientific evidence to prove its existence, and only two eye-witness accounts have been reported -the Yarri or Queensland Tiger: The earliest documented witness reports of the Queensland marsupial tiger date from 1871, with indigenous traditions of the yarri preceding these.[2] Reports indicate that it is fast and agile (Welfare & Fairley, 1981). Reports have come consistently from the Northeast of Queensland. Though these have diminished in number since the 1950s, they continue to occur (the Beast of Buderim being one recent example of the phenomenon). Thylacoleo, an animal of similar size and predatory habits, did live in Australia as recently as the late Pleistocene period, perhaps coexisting with the very first humans that arrived at Australia who were the ancestors of modern Australian Aborigines. However, scientists estimate that Thylacoleo went extinct 30,000 years ago. Modern sightings of an animal described as remarkably like Thylacoleo have led some researchers to speculate that a small relict population has somehow survived in remote areas. Cryptozoologists who promote the theory of survival of the Tasmanian Tiger or Thylacine Thylacinus cynocephalus, a Thylacinid, and also currently accepted as extinct, favour proposed survival of The Queensland Tiger. The fundamental difference between the two cases, however, is that the last Tasmanian Tiger in captivity died in 1936, and the species was not officially declared as extinct until 1986. This makes the prospect of species survival of the Thylacine more likely than that of Thylacoleo. -Rhinoceros Dolphin: The Rhinoceros Dolphin (Delphinus rhinoceros), is an unrecognized species of dolphin (a cryptid) said to have two dorsal fins (like Giglioli's Whale). -Umdhlebi: Umdhlebi is an unverified plant species purported to originate in Zululand, South Africa. It was first reported in the journal Nature on November 2, 1882 by Reverend G. W. Parker, a missionary in South Africa, who said the plant was poisonous.[1] According to Parker, Zulus sacrificed sheep and goats to the tree to calm the evil spirit. As of 2010, no specimen of the Umdhlebi has ever been recovered, and other than 19th century anecdotal evidence no further verification is known to exist. -Whaeela: The Waheela is a wolf-like cryptid reported from Nahanni Valley in the Northwest Territories of Canada. It has also been reported in areas of Michigan. Cryptozoologist Ivan Sanderson thought that the waheela might represent a relict population of Amphicyonids, prehistoric bear-dogs (but which he incorrectly referred to as dire wolves, which were true, but not what the waheela is said to be.).[1] The waheela is similar to the Shunka Warakin, but inhabits a far more northern habitat. It is also similar to Amarok, a giant wolf from Inuit mythology. It is reported to travel in groups of two or three, and not in large packs as modern wolves do. -Wucharia: Wucharia or Wucharia jackal is an unrecognized canid species or subspecies (Canis aureus lupaster or Canis lupus arabs), reported from the very dry Danakil depression desert on the coast of Eritrea in December 2002. The animal was seen by Mr. Jugal Kishore Tiwari and reported to the Canids SG by Satish Kumar. Some authors suppose that the animals were individuals of the Arabian wolf, an isolated form of the Egyptian jackal, or a totally new species related to both of them. |
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| Jasonguppy | Mar 21 2011, 10:11 PM Post #51 |
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@Squib- The wood frog lives high up in the arctic circle. I live in upstate NY, we have tons of amphibians even in the winter. The ice just left our pond and while it was there there were newts The alpine newt lives in the alps and survives way below freezing. Amphibian could easily survive, especially aquatic and large ones. |
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I do art sometimes. "if you want green eat a salad" Projects: Amammalia: A strange place where mammals didn't make it and the land is, once again, dominated by archosaurs. Oceanus: An endless sea dotted with islands, reefs, and black holes. Literally endless, literal black holes. ❤️❤️~I'm not a boy~❤️❤️ | |
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| Ànraich | Mar 21 2011, 10:58 PM Post #52 |
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L'évolution Spéculative est moi
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While that has nothing to do with my point, I do see yours. |
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We should all aspire to die surrounded by our dearest friends. Just like Julius Caesar. "The Lord Universe said: 'The same fate I have given to all things from stones to stars, that one day they shall become naught but memories aloft upon the winds of time. From dust all was born, and to dust all shall return.' He then looked upon His greatest creation, life, and pitied them, for unlike stars and stones they would soon learn of this fate and despair in the futility of their own existence. And so the Lord Universe decided to give life two gifts to save them from this despair. The first of these gifts was the soul, that life might more readily accept their fate, and the second was fear, that they might in time learn to avoid it altogether." - Excerpt from a Chanagwan creation myth, Legends and Folklore of the Planet Ghar, collected and published by Yieju Bai'an, explorer from the Celestial Commonwealth of Qonming Tree That Owns Itself
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| lamna | Mar 22 2011, 03:17 AM Post #53 |
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The Arctic Leopard Seal interested me for a while, but it seem very unlikely in such a well documented part of a world a new seal (and not one of those "Hey this subspecies is very slightly more distinct than we thought!") could be discovered. More than just cryptids, I tend to be interested in how long some species survived and their interaction with humans. Finding out their were moa around when Europeans came to New Zealand, or that the Pharaohs might have seen dwarf elephants, the greeks lived with cave lions and so in is more interesting than the more fanciful creatures. Edited by lamna, Mar 22 2011, 03:29 AM.
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Living Fossils Fósseis Vibos: Reserva Natural 34 MYH, 4 tonne dinosaur. [flash=500,450] Video Magic! [/flash] | |
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| Jasonguppy | Mar 22 2011, 08:08 AM Post #54 |
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I didn't know that, but that is very interesting. |
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I do art sometimes. "if you want green eat a salad" Projects: Amammalia: A strange place where mammals didn't make it and the land is, once again, dominated by archosaurs. Oceanus: An endless sea dotted with islands, reefs, and black holes. Literally endless, literal black holes. ❤️❤️~I'm not a boy~❤️❤️ | |
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| Scrublord | Mar 22 2011, 02:04 PM Post #55 |
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Speaking of moas, have you ever heard of the alleged photo this one guy took of one in 2004? |
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My Projects: The Neozoic Redux Valhalla--Take Three! The Big One Deviantart Account: http://elsqiubbonator.deviantart.com In the end, the best advice I could give you would be to do your project in a way that feels natural to you, rather than trying to imitate some geek with a laptop in Colorado. --Heteromorph | |
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| Ook | Mar 22 2011, 02:14 PM Post #56 |
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what photo?what guy? :O |
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| xaritscin | Mar 22 2011, 06:23 PM Post #57 |
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i remember that there was bears near the mediterranean.... |
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| lamna | Mar 22 2011, 06:44 PM Post #58 |
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Atlas bears in Africa? Or Brown bears in Europe? |
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| Scrublord | Mar 22 2011, 06:47 PM Post #59 |
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As for the moa photos, I was talking about this one: http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/moa-paddy/ |
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My Projects: The Neozoic Redux Valhalla--Take Three! The Big One Deviantart Account: http://elsqiubbonator.deviantart.com In the end, the best advice I could give you would be to do your project in a way that feels natural to you, rather than trying to imitate some geek with a laptop in Colorado. --Heteromorph | |
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| Jasonguppy | Mar 22 2011, 06:55 PM Post #60 |
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That could be a person or foliage with the resolution |
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I do art sometimes. "if you want green eat a salad" Projects: Amammalia: A strange place where mammals didn't make it and the land is, once again, dominated by archosaurs. Oceanus: An endless sea dotted with islands, reefs, and black holes. Literally endless, literal black holes. ❤️❤️~I'm not a boy~❤️❤️ | |
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