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Cryptids; Opinions?
Topic Started: Mar 11 2011, 06:27 PM (3,476 Views)
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Mar 13 2011, 11:23 PM
Are you saying you don't belive in oarfish? I'm a little lost here.
That those monsters on the edges of maps have head frills for a reason.

The Loch Ness has big eels and stumps, and this picture is a toy sub.
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No, sea serpents are beaked whales and pinnipeds. But there ARE possibilities that they are new species of aquatic mammals.

And that Mongolian Death Worm game, it looks kinda fun.
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I know there are small species of ground sloth, and I still think it's fairly improbable, almost all large land mammals discovered in recent years have been just splitting up always known species.

Things like Arizona Jaguars lend credence to the idea something like this could hide, but it just seems to unlikely to me.
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Haven't anyone her se lost tapes,is a tv serie wich show the video when human made contact with cryptids.Is not real,but the creature look very real to me.Her are all of the creatures that appear in the series: http://animal.discovery.com/tv/lost-tapes/meet-the-creatures/



P.s. I love the opening: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vNTZtZVVI8
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Well, in terms of plausibilty, it is indeed makes more sense to think of the Mapinguari as an unknown species of bear or something.

I wish I would witness something like a cryptid....
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Mar 14 2011, 06:08 AM
Haven't anyone her se lost tapes,is a tv serie wich show the video when human made contact with cryptids.Is not real,but the creature look very real to me.Her are all of the creatures that appear in the series: http://animal.discovery.com/tv/lost-tapes/meet-the-creatures/



P.s. I love the opening: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vNTZtZVVI8
That show gives cryptozoology a bad name. Not only does it lump in creatures that are are obviously fictional ( the "Vampire", "Werewolf" and "Zombie" episodes) with legitimate cryptids that actually might exist in real life, it MASSIVELY screws up its portrayal of these cryptids. For instance, they depict the Owlman as coming from California, when it was actually seen in England, and the creature in the "Alien" episode does not resemble anything actually reported.
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Another note, I absolutely HATE, no DISPISE Creationists fucking around with cryptozoology. Years before I already noticed that creationists were using cryptozoology to prove creationism, like that's a dinosaur so god created the Earth and all that fucking garb. Personally, I don't mind somebody believing in creationism, but I absolutely hate it when they actually try to prove creationism with some nonsensical ridiculous shit regarding cryptozoology. I consider them pollutants.

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Hence why I left cryptozoology.com. That and idiots thinking there might be marine reptiles in Loch Ness.
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Regarding bizarre marine beasties, our friend Tim Morris has an an idea that I find interesting.

There is a type of "sea serpent" called the merhorse, a horseheaded thing that supposedly inspired the legends of mythical sea horses from greek, celtic, lusitanian and phoenician mythologies, and that also are the base for the medieval interpretation that sea serpents had horse heads. Most cryptozoologists have interpreted merhorses as being giant pinnipedes akin to sea lions.

However, what if the merhorse was actually a descendent of something more juicy, say, Thalassocnus? More derived Thalassocnus species had elongated rostrums in order to probe for food among rock cracks, and maybe actually catch some fish for dietary supplements. Combined with a mane, the sole relic of its ancestors' long fur covering, and it would look as if it had a horse's head.

Also note that derived Thalassocnus actually had flippers, and having a long tail it is possible that eventually they switched to a whale/manatee swimming style, and the hindlimbs became vestigial. This description is an almost accurate parallel to the Hippocampus of european mythologies.
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Woah I never knew about them John! If only I could of used them in project...shame about losing all the south american mammals for dinosaurs. For the loch ness monster i decided that if it were real it would have to be an amphibean. I used to love cryptids when i was younger me and a friend thought it would be cool to try and capture some and put the in a zoo. We drew maps and diagrams of how our traps would work. FOr example before guests could see the Sirens they would have to put on a special helmet which blocked out their singing.
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Hey! I did the same thing! And i still come up with fanciful plans inspired by my DnD playing. I have used my traps there. Though usually i DM. IM SUCH A NERDNERDNERDNERDNERD :geek: :geek: :geek: :geek: :geek: :geek: :geek: :geek: :geek: :geek: :geek: :geek: :geek: :geek:
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Regarding bizarre marine beasties, our friend Tim Morris has an an idea that I find interesting.

There is a type of "sea serpent" called the merhorse, a horseheaded thing that supposedly inspired the legends of mythical sea horses from greek, celtic, lusitanian and phoenician mythologies, and that also are the base for the medieval interpretation that sea serpents had horse heads. Most cryptozoologists have interpreted merhorses as being giant pinnipedes akin to sea lions.

However, what if the merhorse was actually a descendent of something more juicy, say, Thalassocnus? More derived Thalassocnus species had elongated rostrums in order to probe for food among rock cracks, and maybe actually catch some fish for dietary supplements. Combined with a mane, the sole relic of its ancestors' long fur covering, and it would look as if it had a horse's head.

Also note that derived Thalassocnus actually had flippers, and having a long tail it is possible that eventually they switched to a whale/manatee swimming style, and the hindlimbs became vestigial. This description is an almost accurate parallel to the Hippocampus of european mythologies.
Yes, actually (and rather strangely) I also had a similar idea, and considering that Thalassoconus was from the Miocene period, surviving Holocene forms can actually match the merhorse description.

And the "Merhorse" is indeed the most plausible and convincing type of sea serpents, it includes the 'sea horse', horse-headed sea serpents of any kind, with other common features such as manes and (in most cases) hind limbs forming flippers in a pinniped-ish manner. It also includes the Caddie, the 'Super Otter' sea serpent type and the 'Long-necked Seal' type.

Whatever it is, I'm sure that new species of large aquatic long-necked pinniped-like mammal exists in our oceans.


And pretty ridiculous how some people actually think a genus of 65-million year old giant prehistoric marine reptile survives in a tiny lake....
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For me, the Mongolian Death Worm, Skunk Ape, Thylacine, Behemoth, Leviathan, Ziz, Ground Sloth, Set's Beasts, and that fat Japanese snake could exist.

They are a large relative of that one amphibian without legs, a South American ape, a surviving thylacine, a large species of elephant, a new species of sea crocodile, a large vulture, a surviving ground sloth, an undiscovered species of jackal, and a fat snake native to Japan, respectively.

I also see Dial took my nickname for Ikabod as a member title.

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Set's beasts might actually be the okapi, according to some researchers. Although I think everyone overlooked elephant shrews.
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They look like Jackals to me.
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