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Topic Started: Feb 28 2011, 05:35 PM (1,399 Views)
Jasonguppy
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I have too. My ideass for no K-T should go somewhere, so here you go. No K-T. Yup. Pretty cliche.

the name. it mean NO K-T in estonian. Cretaceous is named after the kreta chalk mountains, and tertiary means, well, tertiary
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Well, it is cliche, yes, but I have my Protobird Dinosauroid world (and Terra Ornithischia, of course), where I'm going a bit extreme on my ideas. In my no-KT world, mammals rule, few big dinosaurs, and most surviving non-avian dinosaurs are extremely bird like, bipedal, with beaks, feathery ears, pouches, feathers and sometimes flat faces. Also platypi thrive, with big whale-like hesperornithes.
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mINE WILL BE UNIQUE
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Amammalia: A strange place where mammals didn't make it and the land is, once again, dominated by archosaurs.

Oceanus: An endless sea dotted with islands, reefs, and black holes. Literally endless, literal black holes.

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Sounds interestung. Tell me, what sort of Tyrannosaurs have evolved in this project?
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Domestic ones
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Amammalia: A strange place where mammals didn't make it and the land is, once again, dominated by archosaurs.

Oceanus: An endless sea dotted with islands, reefs, and black holes. Literally endless, literal black holes.

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No, I mean what Tyrannosaurs evolved in the wild and what adptations have they developed to cope with their territories climate?
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They are like wolves. Domesticated by the sapients to be like...dogs.
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Amammalia: A strange place where mammals didn't make it and the land is, once again, dominated by archosaurs.

Oceanus: An endless sea dotted with islands, reefs, and black holes. Literally endless, literal black holes.

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that seems...

difficult.
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Yup.

Current Survivors:
-Dinosauria
--Therapoda
---Tyrannosaurs (NA only)
---Dromaeosaurs (Widespread)
---Troodonts (SA only)
---Birds that were around in Late Cretaceous (Widespread)
---Oviraporidae (Widespread)
---Therizinosauridae (Widespread)
--Sauropoda
---Titanosauria (SA only)
--Ornithopoda
---Hypsies (Widespread)
---Lambeosaurine Hadrosaurs (China and NA)
---Basal Forms (SA)
--Thyreophoreans
---Ankylosaurs (NA and Oz)
--Ceratopsians
---Leptoceratopsians (NA and Oceania)
---Ceratopsidae (NA)
--Pachycephalisaurs (NA)

-Crocodilia
--Notosuchidae (SA and Oz)
--Eusuchia (Widespread)

-Mammalia
--All around at K-T

Also mosasauria, plesiosauria, chelonia, and pterodactylidae (Azhdarcids and other short tails)
Edited by Jasonguppy, Feb 28 2011, 09:46 PM.
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Amammalia: A strange place where mammals didn't make it and the land is, once again, dominated by archosaurs.

Oceanus: An endless sea dotted with islands, reefs, and black holes. Literally endless, literal black holes.

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What are the sapients? They better not be mammals.

That list seems... wrong for some reason. For example, no hadrosaurs, and you only have 1 group of birds when there where the Neornithes, Hesperornithes, Enantiornithes, and 1 other "...ornithes". Same with the mammals. You have the Placentals, Eutherians, Allotheres, Triterburculates, and Monotremes.

Also, the list makes it seem that there is no new families/orders out there.

And finally, I don't think Tyrannosaurids can be like wolves. If anything, they will be like cats since they're solitary (and have no need for forming packs, unlike the small theropods). But I don't think they're tamable at all. Your best bet for dinosaur domestics would be dromaeosaurs and troodontids, and for the cattle-type domestics would be ornthipods.

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Just general groups. All birds around in Cretaceous and mammals more or less. The tyrannosaurs were hard hit in the cooling and only the smaller eastern species survived. The more efficient dromaeosaurs and ceratopsians out competed larger forms and left only smaller forms that were forced to pack hunting.

Sapients haven't been decided. Probably unenlagines.
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Amammalia: A strange place where mammals didn't make it and the land is, once again, dominated by archosaurs.

Oceanus: An endless sea dotted with islands, reefs, and black holes. Literally endless, literal black holes.

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Ceratopsians? With the rise of grasses, their beaks would be useless, leading to their demise. If you can make a branch family that's good, but ceratopsians would perish on grasslands.

Also, it is thought that young tyrannosaurids were born with feathers then lost them when they grew bigger as they were so big that feathers were useless. With the Eocene cooling they could of easily kept the feathers.

Also, don't forget the Therizinosaurids and Pachycephalosaurs. Especially the Pachy's. They're my favorite dinos.
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I actually had them in my list but forgot them. The ceratopsians go omnivore. And the Deccan traps still happened, just no meteor. That killed the largest of the tyrannosaurs, ceratopsians, and hadrosaurs.
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Amammalia: A strange place where mammals didn't make it and the land is, once again, dominated by archosaurs.

Oceanus: An endless sea dotted with islands, reefs, and black holes. Literally endless, literal black holes.

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My problem is that the there are only the traditional groups. I mean, look at the mammals and avian dinosaurs for example. Over the course of more than 65 million years of evolution, look how dramatically evolution and natural selection changed the fauna on Earth. The small, unspecialized basal condylarths gave rise to giant hooved herbivores, massive fully aquatic filter feeders.... So why would dinosaurs stay the same for 65 million years? Won't they change, new groups taking over, old groups going extinct? I'm not even sure most dinosaurs are going to make it past the K-T boundary even if the asteroid didn't drop, the temperatures were already falling and the traditional big Mesozoic dinosaurs were on the peak of their evolution, plus the Deccan Traps would still pack a punch. The only dinosaur group I'm sure that would successfuly make it past the Mesozoic and the various smaller Cenezoic extinctions are maniraptorans, Cretaceous dinosaurs were already very specialized and big, the only smal, adaptable basal dinosaurs were the maniraptorans and a few ornithischian species. That was always my problem with Spec, with the traditional tyrannosaurs, dromaeosaurs, ceratopsians and hardrosaurs occupying the exact same niches as they did in the Mesozoic.
Take lambeosaurine hardrosaurs for example. They were huge, huge giants, specialized, taking over the niches that sauropods previously occupied in the Jurassic. They were endothermic, almost the entire family of dinosaurs are endothermic, but just being endothermic won't help the big, specialized Late Cretaceous dinosaurs survive.

I don't know about tyrannosaurs. They could survive, and if they do I could see some species developing full heterodonty and completely loosing their forelimbs. And I think the feline niches would probably go to dromaeosaurs, not tyrannosaurs. Tyrannosaurs, they are endurance hunters, they are social, so it's likely that they would go around mobbing large prey or scavenging.

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Dromaeosaurs, hadrosaurs and ceratopsians were doing best in the Cretaceous. They would be the ones which survive.
When the ice cap begins to form, and grasses spread, ceratopsians should die out. Hadrosaurs should be pushed back until they can create a form capable of eating grass- probably smaller, permanently quadrupedal, with chambered microbe areas for rumination perhaps.

Tyrannosaurs would decline as large game does.
Mammals will start doing better.

Pterosaurs will still have the top sky niches, but be rare. Birds will include groups not present in the real world.

Crocodilomorphs wil be doing well.

Mammals will be increasing in size. Primates and rodents are likely to advance.

The last plesiosaurs will be gone. Mosasaurs will rule the seas, along with smaller crocs.

Then, when the ice age hits...
Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea.

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