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| SIngemeister | Mar 2 2011, 03:50 PM Post #166 |
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| FallingWhale | Mar 2 2011, 05:44 PM Post #167 |
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I know what a destroyer is, that's why I said it. Wikipedia has it right. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destroyer Anti-satellite missiles take a very long time to target and can only hit predictable orbits. |
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| T.Neo | Mar 2 2011, 05:50 PM Post #168 |
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Fok... bru... where the hell do you guys get these kak ideas from? I mean... you people, you know... sometimes... We just... you know... we don't have... pornographic... relations with fokken... creatures!
That is true, but also... not an entire justification for the cliche insistent setting of stories in particular places. If you want to know about a particular place well, just hire someone who has lived there for a considerable amount of time, get them to show you around and explain everything, and then pay then a few hundred dollars. Easy.
I'm not whining about the lack of South African based movies, I'm whining about the lack of movies set outside the USA, or at the very least, set outside LA and New York. And... seriously bru, fokken sharks? Why would we want to swim with fokken sharks? That is a tourist thing, you know, uh, um, the tourists, you know, they like to swim... but us... no, you know, when you are down in Cape Town, you know, try to stick to the beach and, the sand and the surf, you know... cause, I mean, you know, they are sharks, they... they fokken eat people.... Swim with sharks. Ag man, what are you going to say next, that we take pleasure trips to fokken space stations? Edited by T.Neo, Mar 2 2011, 05:53 PM.
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| Kamidio | Mar 2 2011, 06:16 PM Post #169 |
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Next I was going to say you live on the continent with the biggest amount of idiots holding the title "World Leader" in a bunch of nations that probably have like maybe two people per hundred square kilometers. Also, you surf on the backs of lions. So stop whining that Stan Lee set Marvel Comics mostly in New York, despite the fact that he was born to immigrants and made the best superheros this side of the Prime Meridian. |
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| T.Neo | Mar 2 2011, 06:39 PM Post #170 |
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I'm not whining about Stan Lee. I think his superhero stories are very good, actually... they make the cliche, they are not made up of the cliche. |
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| Kamidio | Mar 2 2011, 06:53 PM Post #171 |
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Actually, both Marvel and D.C. made the cliches. Therefore, they will be original forever and ever. |
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| Yorick | Mar 2 2011, 07:07 PM Post #172 |
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And most aren't. Nobody claims such a thing a thing outright because its untrue and ridiculous.
...Why? They obviously care that the filmmakers are transporting them someplace new but don't care where that place is. Why would they?
They're not stupid just because they don't care about the plausibility of alien-human sexual attraction.
No. Not at all. Only if you're mad because American filmamkers and finaciers like to set their films in their hime lands.
It's not creepy patriotism. It's just people setting their films where they're from.
Why not? IT'S NOT IMPORTANT. I certainly care about telling a good story and that would not have anything to do with me not caring about the alien creature design.
Now you're just strecthing.
Then it's cliche but ultimately trivial and no one will care or they shrug it off soon after.
1. It's pretty obvious I wasn't being literal 2. A couple of nerds few and far between that already gave in their money
It's about what is justice in a world where you can prevent crime. Your defense of Inception makes no sense. I don't think you know what you're talking about. Yes. "Inception" has original concepts but they never came together very well.
That can't be badly or well written at all.
What? No filmmaker can rely on a good cast and crew to make a good film? My story is more cliche because ofa completely unrelated story?
No. I did not.
Of course it CAN be but entertainment is the author's #1 priority.
You can say that there were some ideas in the story that you liked but you still found it to terribly produced. You don't owe anyone to say otherwise. I personally hated the fake-looking graphics. It's a very disappointing film.
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| Kamidio | Mar 2 2011, 07:50 PM Post #173 |
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Yorick please, stop. None of us like this movie. If you can't take the criticism, then leave. |
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| urufumarukai | Mar 2 2011, 07:54 PM Post #174 |
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Well that was harsh, I rather enjoy the concept. |
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Henry you dick! Mr. Hands "Am I boring? Depends, do you like watching documentaries about 19th and 18th century warfare, having complicated feelings about bismark and crying over the film of winston churchill putting flowers on FDR's grave. If so then I'm so fucking boring. " | |
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| colddigger | Mar 2 2011, 09:08 PM Post #175 |
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Joke's over! Love, Parasky
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I for one enjoy the large amounts of quotes in this thread, I just wish Yorick wouldn't suddenly start typing inside of one as he forgets a "]". |
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| Kamidio | Mar 2 2011, 10:01 PM Post #176 |
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Well I for one want to stop this bickering and it's become obvious that a lot of people here don't like the concept. T. Neo, for one. |
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| Yorick | Mar 3 2011, 12:12 AM Post #177 |
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He's barely even criticizing the movie! I'm upset about his insane ramblings against the U.S. and plausibility of alien-human romances. Why don't you like the idea? |
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| FallingWhale | Mar 3 2011, 12:29 AM Post #178 |
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It is so massively cliched that it would be painful to watch. |
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| colddigger | Mar 3 2011, 01:23 AM Post #179 |
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Joke's over! Love, Parasky
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;D Here's a thought, make the chick have the hots for him since he's disguised as a human, but have him just think they are friends and that human friendship is just far more touchy feely than his own species. Nice awkward moment near the end and everyone is happy. As for the USA, I suggest setting it in China but have all the scenes obviously American, any accents that you put in the script for a character to be American, and all references and so on to be American. |
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| T.Neo | Mar 3 2011, 07:44 AM Post #180 |
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But it is still a disproportionate number, at least in science fiction terms.
Oh really? And who are you to say that? As a person from the US yourself, you can only have a second hand feeling of what the rest of the world thinks of your community as a whole.
So the audience won't care if I, to save FX costs, decide to set my Mars mission in the Arizona desert? I am still transporting them somewhere pretty exotic, I mean... they don't care, right?
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There is a difference between "like to" and "insist on doing it every single time".
Actually I wasn't referring to films being set in places, I was referring to the actual creepy patriotism itself, and how it is, or at least might be, inspired by the insistant USA-ism in films.
You care about telling a good story? I have not yet seen proof of that, I'm afraid... So you just want to perpetuate a continued cliche implausibility that is inherent to many films, that makes 95% of people believe that an alien sophont would look exactly like a human?
No... no I am not. Films are all about the little things, if you've ever looked into how films are made and put together you'll notice that people pay a huge amount of attention to the little things.
It fosters a rubbish understanding in the population at large. Kind of like showing cavemen and dinosaurs together on film.
1. Your comment makes even less sense, then. 2. Nerds that are way smarter than you and I combined, and who have potentially achieved quite a lot in their particular field. They spent their money, but they could convince a good deal of other people not to.
Oh wow. Nice concept, but can the movie pull it off? To be honest, I didn't really get into the movie, but I wouldn't go as far as to bash it because of that.
You are entitled to your opinion, nobody is stopping you from expressing that. I don't know what I'm talking about? What?
It can. Everything can either be good, or bad, if it is supposed to do something or someone cares about it.
You're not fully getting what I'm trying to say: You always need to aim for a good cast and crew that can make a good film. But you can't have a crappy film and then somehow expect a good cast and crew to make it work. Of course it is cliche because of a completely unrelated story, if the 'unrelated' story shares some elements, even if they're minor. But mostly if they've been used over and over and over and over again in film.
Yes... yes you did ignore what I said. Two times in a row. "mindless rubbish that is entertaining" and "entertaining philosophical concept" are two different things, and two different things that can be the basis for a story. If you had to ask me personally, and probably a good deal of other people, the latter is superior.
When did I find it terribly produced? I didn't mind it, I just hated the blue catpeople and the story that I could predict 30 minutes ahead of time. I really don't know which of the graphics was fake-looking... granted the graphics are not 100% photoreal, but they come damn close and they're very well done. I think the way they were used was unrealistic sometimes... some sequences are just too over the top, visually.
Me enjoy the content of 'Eli'? Not a chance, sorry... ![]() I said it was unoriginal, I never said it was unoriginal because of My Name is Earl. ![]() I just said that it reminded me of My Name is Earl. I know they both fall for natives but the romance isn't a central storyline in "Eli" unlike "Pocahontas" and "Avatar." "Eli's" central storyline is learning to become a leader, be courageous, assimilate to human culture and care about others above himself. In Avatar the protagonist learns to assimilate to the culture of the natives, and he cares a lot for the people he ends up leading. The stories are very different but they do contain vaguely similar elements.
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Because the location does matter. Again, blank 3D space... A movie budget can't afford a few hundred dollars? Even 40 dollars? Even films with comparatively low budgets have budgets in the millions or hundreds of thousands of dollars at the very least. Do you want to produce and direct Eli in your back yard? ![]()
That does get quite confusing...
I'm upset by your insistence that your unoriginal, cliche, unworthwhile, unscintillating, undeveloped story concept is potentially the worst thing I've ever seen. It's either that, or your insistence that it's actually worthwhile. Yes. I am not a very nice person when you say I am insane, or anything to that effect. Civil arguments are far better than un-civil ones. I am not being 'anti-US'. Not at all. I am just being pro-World. The US only covers a small percentage of Earth's land area. But when you say I am being "against the US", that really does reinforce my annoyance with creepy patriotism. And when it comes to alien-human romances, you know what the- ![]()
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