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Speculative Evolution knowledge for mythical animals.
Topic Started: Feb 14 2011, 03:08 AM (2,772 Views)
Issac
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Apart from my rodent project, I have another piece of fiction that need some hardcore science from speculative evolution. This is the best site to talk about it after all.

I have this fantasy tale where mythical creatures exist in parallel to the real world and with Chinese Deities and stuff.

During my research in Chinese, Hindu, Malayan myths, I have wonder if some of those creatures could be alternative evoltuions of some creatures we had in the real world or even separate offshoots of the human species eg. Goblins, Rakashas.etc
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I am adding oriental to my project...
I do art sometimes.

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Amammalia: A strange place where mammals didn't make it and the land is, once again, dominated by archosaurs.

Oceanus: An endless sea dotted with islands, reefs, and black holes. Literally endless, literal black holes.

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Feb 15 2011, 08:33 AM
Of course :lol: Asian mythology is closely tied with each other.....
I have heard of the man-faced owl. So they are flying primates?

Maybe I can inform you some critters? I have a big list of mythological creatures somewhere up in ASF (the subforum, A Scientific Fantasy)....
Sure go ahead...
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Guys I think I have some trouble. While with the fact that some of my creatures would be evolved hominids. I would have trouble if I feature females of that species due to the breasts and the Asian conservative sexual point of view.

For Rakashas for example, I have a female character who is a member of the species. But she's overall looks like the RAkasha with baboon like canines and horns but she has the anatomy of woman with breasts and all. Is there a way to explain why is she clothed?
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dialforthedevil
Feb 15 2011, 01:40 PM
Ah yes Ceph is definitely the expert on oriental mythology. Although I would be happy to help out, i guess i specialise in European Mythology and Cenozoic mammals really :) If you want any help i will be happy to, although i am not on as much as i used to because i have big exams coming up and im trying to work hard
Nice to see you Dial! You haven't posted in a while.... :)

Here's the list (I didn't include the Native American, African or Inuit mythology but I can add it if you want);

Australian Mythology
Drop Bear- Killer koalas which drop on prey
Muldjewangk- See the Mer Creature from Primeval.
Grangach- Aquatic reptile, crocodile fore-body and fish hind-body
Rainbow Gecko- A massive aquatic gecko-like lizard with a horse-like mane

Oceanic Mythology
Hatuibwari- man-faced flying dragon.
Te Wheke-a-Muturangi- called Wheke for short. A gigantic ship-sinking octopus. akin to the kraken.
Pouakai- gigantic monstrous man-eating bird. described as huge black-and-white predators with a red creat and yellow-green tinged wingtips. Akin to the roc.
Taniwha- an aggressive reptile fish thing. Appears as a gecko or a tuatara in inland waters, and a whale or a shark in a sea. Their characteristic is that they have spines along their backs.

Japanese Mythology
Mizuchi- a snake-like water dragon.
Ryujin- a gigantic aggressive sea dragon that symbolizes the power of the ocean.
Wani, Watatsumi- a shark-crocodile sea dragon thingy.
Amemasu- a giant whale or fish like creature akin to the Leviathan
Nozuchi- a snake-leech creature.
Namazu- an earthquake-making catfish
Akkorokamui- a creature akin to the kraken; a gigantic red squid.
Basan- a gigantic fire breathing chicken.
Baku- an animal with the nose of an elephant, the feet of a tiger and the body of a bull. It is as large as a small elephant. Doubtlessly this animal is based on the tapir
Hibagon- a Japanese bigfoot
Hihi- a killer baboon monster
Hyosube- a hair covered Kappa.
Isonade- a giganic shark with sharp barb covered deadly tail that it uses to capsize ships
Okami- An animal like a dire wolf
Onikuma- a gigantic monster bear
Seko, Sa Gojo- a kappa
Tsuchigumo- a giant spider
Tsuchinoko- poisonous vipers with a fat, short body, resembling a legless blue-tongued tegu
Umibozu- a giant octopus with tentacles and a large, round head and capsizes ships. Similar to the Kraken
Oni- Japanese Ogere

Orient Mythology
Hadhayosh- same as the behemoth.
Huma- a large legless bird that is unable to land on land.
Shahbaz- a large eagle
Simurgh- a dog headed bird
Karkadann- an animal like a giant rhinocerous but extremely ferocious and can drive away animals as big as elephants.
Bahamut- a gigantic fish with a hippo head. that reminds me of a large Dugong or Manatee....
Al-Mi'raj- a middle eastern Jackalope with a single horn-like growth protruding from its head. Although looks rabbit-like is a pack hunter that takes down larger animals.
Dandan- a gigantic fish akin to the leviathan
Falak- a gigantic serpent.
Sandwalker- one of my favourite animals. It is a monstrous nocturnal scorpion with spider fangs, crab claws and a general shape like a scorpion. Its size is about a large horse or a car and feeds on horses and cammals and burrows itself in sand.

Egyption Mythology
Apep- A giant evil sea serpent.
Bennu- a Heron pheonix
Hieracosphinx- an Egyptian Griffin with a head of a falcon instead of an eagle
Serpopard- an animal with a body of a leopard and the head, neck and tail of a snake. Similar to the Questing Beast in Europe.

Jewish Mythology
Bar Juchne- something similar to the roc, although it is ridiculously big. Compared to the Leviathan and Behemoth. Same or very similar to Ziz.
Broxa- a bird that sucks the milk of goats during the night.
Re'em- a sort of unicorn but with two horns and rather like an antelope.

Mesopotamian mythology
Labbu- some kind of sea serpent
Sirrush- an animal with a head of a snake, body of a leopard, front feet of a lion, back feet with talons and a tail with a poisonous sting.
Rahab- a leaviathan.

Hindu mythology
Timingila- a gigantic fish that swallows whales
Makara- a crcodile-like sea monster or a river dolphin with legs. Go here to for a better description. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makara_(Hindu_mythology)
Hamsa- a goose-like animal
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Hmm looks like few of my creatures appeared in your list.

I will give you the info I come up with
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Can I use that list?
I do art sometimes.

"if you want green eat a salad"

Projects:
Amammalia: A strange place where mammals didn't make it and the land is, once again, dominated by archosaurs.

Oceanus: An endless sea dotted with islands, reefs, and black holes. Literally endless, literal black holes.

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Oceanic Mythology
Hatuibwari- man-faced flying dragon.
Te Wheke-a-Muturangi- called Wheke for short. A gigantic ship-sinking octopus. akin to the kraken.
Pouakai- gigantic monstrous man-eating bird. described as huge black-and-white predators with a red creat and yellow-green tinged wingtips. Akin to the roc.
Taniwha- an aggressive reptile fish thing. Appears as a gecko or a tuatara in inland waters, and a whale or a shark in a sea. Their characteristic is that they have spines along their backs.


The description you gave of the Pouakai is actually more similar to that of the Hakawai, another monster bird. While the Pouakai is a generic giant bird of prey, the Hakawai is a creature sent by Heaven to torment the mortals during the night. Inspired possibly by the native shorebirds rather than the Haast's Eagle, which was the inspiration for the Pouakai
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Free to use it, anyone who wants to is. The African, American and the Inuit mythology, may I post?
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Feb 16 2011, 08:06 AM
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Oceanic Mythology
Hatuibwari- man-faced flying dragon.
Te Wheke-a-Muturangi- called Wheke for short. A gigantic ship-sinking octopus. akin to the kraken.
Pouakai- gigantic monstrous man-eating bird. described as huge black-and-white predators with a red creat and yellow-green tinged wingtips. Akin to the roc.
Taniwha- an aggressive reptile fish thing. Appears as a gecko or a tuatara in inland waters, and a whale or a shark in a sea. Their characteristic is that they have spines along their backs.


The description you gave of the Pouakai is actually more similar to that of the Hakawai, another monster bird. While the Pouakai is a generic giant bird of prey, the Hakawai is a creature sent by Heaven to torment the mortals during the night. Inspired possibly by the native shorebirds rather than the Haast's Eagle, which was the inspiration for the Pouakai
Possible I did get the two mixed up, the list was made some time ago.

So, the Hakawai is a demonic shorebird creature, and the Pouakai is a Haast Eagle raptorial bird thing.
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Could we have like a basic gist of the world please? :) I would love to see how it plays out
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The environment would be the climate of Earth before human began using their climate changing technology. Something like the climate in the 28th Century B.C.

In Singapore, it's still the tropical paradise. Rainy and Dry seasons and the occasional monsoon. The mythic creatures that appears in my tale are a reflection of our singapore's multi-racial society so dun be surprised if Chinese mythical creatures share the ecology with Malayan and Indian species.

What you see here are the Singaporean subspecies which are slightly smaller than their mainland relatives.
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I would have expected more Egyptian mythological creatures (Ammut, Sobek...)


And how dare you not include the Bunyip among the Australian mythological animals :D
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My project has bunyips :-)
I do art sometimes.

"if you want green eat a salad"

Projects:
Amammalia: A strange place where mammals didn't make it and the land is, once again, dominated by archosaurs.

Oceanus: An endless sea dotted with islands, reefs, and black holes. Literally endless, literal black holes.

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I will be using mostly South East Asian mythos.
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Issac, do you have a DA
I do art sometimes.

"if you want green eat a salad"

Projects:
Amammalia: A strange place where mammals didn't make it and the land is, once again, dominated by archosaurs.

Oceanus: An endless sea dotted with islands, reefs, and black holes. Literally endless, literal black holes.

❤️❤️~I'm not a boy~❤️❤️
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