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Speculative Evolution knowledge for mythical animals.
Topic Started: Feb 14 2011, 03:08 AM (2,771 Views)
Issac
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Apart from my rodent project, I have another piece of fiction that need some hardcore science from speculative evolution. This is the best site to talk about it after all.

I have this fantasy tale where mythical creatures exist in parallel to the real world and with Chinese Deities and stuff.

During my research in Chinese, Hindu, Malayan myths, I have wonder if some of those creatures could be alternative evoltuions of some creatures we had in the real world or even separate offshoots of the human species eg. Goblins, Rakashas.etc
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Cephylus
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We already had Scientific Fantasy projects here, only two being the biggest and currently active, but it'd be interesting to see what this turns out. :) Plus it seems like you are focusing on Asian mythology, Hindu and Malayan, which I like :) (I'm Asian, South Korean to be exact). Maybe you can extend the range to Polynesian mythological creatures as well? And are there humans with a civilization in this world? Maybe with ancient Asian-ish cultures and technology?

How are you going to explain the Chinese deities and stuff? I know quite about Chinese-Korean-Japanese mythology....

Are you going to do the Lungs and the Makaras?
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they are in my fantasy novel of course.

but I dun have my drafts with me now so I will post up the creatures I have read up. Some of these are not known in mainstream media that often. But I was wrong as some of them might have counterparts in Western media and even in Japan and Korea
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You should visit my project or dials project.
I do art sometimes.

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Projects:
Amammalia: A strange place where mammals didn't make it and the land is, once again, dominated by archosaurs.

Oceanus: An endless sea dotted with islands, reefs, and black holes. Literally endless, literal black holes.

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Issac
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Do you have the link? But my project would basing them on creatures and hominids in the Holocene.

The mythical creatures that are said to be human hybrids can be thought of as hominids evolved into different forms. My explanation probably is that some of the species died out during the last Ice Age.

Like say
Goblins would be Homo gremilis or something.
The Bai Ze or kutabe would be Homo triceras

There are other strange animals from an older textbook that even modern Chinese do not even read or know of its contents.

I am basing the creatures's on misconception.etc Long time ago, people call dolphins and whales fish and bats as a kind of bird.
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ASF is a sub forum, and mine is Poll:Fantasy World. If you wiuld like, you can work on mine with me.

BTW, you can call me Jason.
I do art sometimes.

"if you want green eat a salad"

Projects:
Amammalia: A strange place where mammals didn't make it and the land is, once again, dominated by archosaurs.

Oceanus: An endless sea dotted with islands, reefs, and black holes. Literally endless, literal black holes.

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I see.. thanks.

I have visited the poll. Your creatures are based on dinosaurians and some other species. Very interesting. For me, I am going a more Holocene type of creatures.
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I still question if this type of wing really works on Earth

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Not on earth. Our atmosphere is not dense enough.
I do art sometimes.

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Projects:
Amammalia: A strange place where mammals didn't make it and the land is, once again, dominated by archosaurs.

Oceanus: An endless sea dotted with islands, reefs, and black holes. Literally endless, literal black holes.

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I'm assuming the Kappa are monkeys and the Chinese Lion Statues are bulky relatives of the Eurasian Lion.
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Cephylus
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Well, if you mean the four-winged part, I think that's possible, maybe the ancestor flying creature had wing membranes stretching up to the hind legs like pterosaurian wings, and the back legs can be seperated, the 'hind wings' supported by fiber....
I also think the serrated wing membranes are plausible. It doesn't have to do with the atmosphere, birds developed that kind of wing already, except with feathers rather than wing membranes. Kind of like bird feathers, developed for similar use.... Seeing an animal with that sort of wing will be interesting :lol:

What animal are you planning to use that kind of wing on? Some kind of flying squamate? Chiropterans? Some other kind of flying mammal? Or something else altogether?

And Holocene type animals are fine, interesting....
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Feb 14 2011, 11:55 PM
Well, if you mean the four-winged part, I think that's possible, maybe the ancestor flying creature had wing membranes stretching up to the hind legs like pterosaurian wings, and the back legs can be seperated, the 'hind wings' supported by fiber....
I also think the serrated wing membranes are plausible. It doesn't have to do with the atmosphere, birds developed that kind of wing already, except with feathers rather than wing membranes. Kind of like bird feathers, developed for similar use.... Seeing an animal with that sort of wing will be interesting :lol:

What animal are you planning to use that kind of wing on? Some kind of flying squamate? Chiropterans? Some other kind of flying mammal? Or something else altogether?

And Holocene type animals are fine, interesting....
I was about to look for you, Cephylus!
Becos we are both Asian people, some of our mythic creatures are shared between Korea and China as well as Japan.

I am using this odd wing structure for a certain creature known as a Man-Faced Owl in chinese translation. It's a mythic creature that is not mentioned or used much in Media. It has the face of a human, upper body of an Owl with wings and the hind limbs of a monkey. That sounds like a possible candidate for a primate/hominid capable of powered flight. In my novel, there are a lot of them but many of these guys have human faces but are smaller than 8 year olds when they stand on their hind limbs. But they have pretty impressive 2 meter wings that could use the bird like appendages on a banshee in Avatar.
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Of course :lol: Asian mythology is closely tied with each other.....
I have heard of the man-faced owl. So they are flying primates?

Maybe I can inform you some critters? I have a big list of mythological creatures somewhere up in ASF (the subforum, A Scientific Fantasy)....
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Ah yes Ceph is definitely the expert on oriental mythology. Although I would be happy to help out, i guess i specialise in European Mythology and Cenozoic mammals really :) If you want any help i will be happy to, although i am not on as much as i used to because i have big exams coming up and im trying to work hard
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Good to see more projects like this. I hope to see some Australian Myths.
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